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Beto fires back at Chuck Schumer "what has he got done?"
- Thread starter BoboBrazil
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This is the leadership we'll get from younger progressives. More millenials and young Gen Xers need to run for office.
hell yes he's gonna clap back
shame Beto isn't doing better, he's a much better candidate than some of the schlubs in front of him like Pete and Harris and, oh I dunno, BIDEN
Warren/Beto is coming into focus as the dream ticket this go around
shame Beto isn't doing better, he's a much better candidate than some of the schlubs in front of him like Pete and Harris and, oh I dunno, BIDEN
Warren/Beto is coming into focus as the dream ticket this go around
Ummm... we DO have background checks? The issue is that around 20% of gun sales are done on a personal basis, and not through a vendor.
Our background checks suck. I used to work at a store that sold guns and the background check as basically "are you 18" and "do you have a criminal record"?
NOTHING on medical or psychological history, and even then we had so many people WITH criminal records that my supervisor went "oh, well, that wasn't so bad" or "that was awhile back" and did the sale anyway. Our FIRST CUSTOMER we asked to take a picture with him to celebrate our first gun sale and he freaked out, grabbed the gun, and ran out of the store into his truck and sped away. "Eh, at least he already paid us," my supervisor said.
As for our politicians... once again...
Nancy is being primaried in 2020 lol I hope she flops then we can meme her "They're just 4 people"
I recall someone saying something along the lines of the older folks on the left dealt with a GOP that could be reasoned with to some degree in the past. The new blood has never known that and all they've known is the GOP to be a bunch of scheming a-holes throughout their adult lives and deal with them accordingly.
I know many people want to run for senate again but even in a state that is gradually trending blue is he really going to win in Texas being this stridently for gun control?
Honestly, while I would love a Sanders/Warren ticket, I could see Beto being a quality pick for VP.
0% chance of winning Texas Senate pushing a mandatory weapon confiscation program. He is not pushing for a voluntary buyback, he is advocating to make owners into criminals. He done.
Old-ass Democrats remember a time when Republicans actually saw value in reaching across the aisle and working toward compromise, and refuse to acknowledge that all the Republicans who used to do that are either dead or retired, or have gone full right-wing nutjob to appease their frothing Nazi base.
Pelosi, Schumer, etc actually view people like McConnell as their 'friends' even though Mitch can, has, and WILL stab them in the back every single time they turn around. They're out-of-touch fools with no grasp on the realities of the modern political dynamic.
He's done? He's never even started, my guy. He's running for president. Which, admittedly, is a race in which he's done, too, but oh well.
Yes, it's ridiculous that even with overwhelming public support, meaningful gun legislation can't get passed (among other things, but that's off topic).
Schumer represents everything wrong with the legacy Democratic party. Their goal for 2020 is to simply return the country 'mostly' to 2015 status quo. Every candidate should be telling him that isn't good enough.
Schumer represents everything wrong with the legacy Democratic party. Their goal for 2020 is to simply return the country 'mostly' to 2015 status quo. Every candidate should be telling him that isn't good enough.
Pretty sure Pelosi and Schumer like having Trump as president. They arn't required to get anything done because they can't, so they just enjoy the power status while appearing to "resisting". This is why they'd rather Trump win again over Bernie or Warren.
If all that can be pointed to is a bill from 25 years ago I think Beto has a point.
How is that Schumer's fault? He doesn't have the majority in the Senate. Pelosi does, and she passed a gun control bill this year. That happened seven months ago!
Let's see her do it when she has a majority in the Senate. Also Beto's point.
If Warren wins she should try to get Abrams to get some southern votes.
Dems in disarray! But seriously fuck Schumer. Useless status quo bitch. Political infighting in a party is how we become better, so good on Beto.
I mean Pelosi will never have a majority in the Senate, I'm not really sure what you're asking here. She's Speaker of the House. What goes on in the Senate isn't her responsibility.
FWIW Schumer has been open to the idea of killing the filibuster, something many presidential candidates (including Bernie) have said they won't do, which is probably 100% what's necessary to pass a gun control bill. And nothing about Schumer, despite my general meh-ness towards and the venting from this thread or Beto, suggests to me that he has any problem with enacting stricter gun control laws. If Democrats win the House, Senate and presidency next year, it will probably happen.
It's easier to pass a bill that makes you look good in the house when you know it will die in the oppositions senate. The question is, if the dems had the senate would she still be passing that bill? They had four years of both houses and we didn't see much progress then. two years of both houses AND the presidency. Zilch.
you people keep saying this, but when he loses the texas senate two years in a row his political career would be effectively over.
Pelosi passed several major bills between the 09-10 session that didn't go anywhere in the Senate. Cap & trade probably killed several Congresspersons' careers. The House also passed the DREAM Act during the lame duck session, but it failed to beat a Senate filibuster (because of five turncoat Democrats and one Manchin who wasn't present to vote on it, and yes, that is complete bullshit and you can totally be mad at them for it - I am! - although only Manchin and Jon Tester are still in office).
The version of the Affordable Care Act that originally passed the House also included the public option, and the Senate stripped it out.
The idea that Pelosi doesn't really support bills that she brings up because she knows they'll fail in the Senate seems... rather baffling to me, to be honest. Especially when you consider all the heat she takes for say, not supporting Medicare for All or marijuana legalization. Why not bring them up anyway if they're freebies? It's because she absolutely does support the bills the House has passed thus far, there is nothing in her very long career that makes me think otherwise. It's misplaced cynicism at its finest.
Like, if McConnell got struck by lightning tomorrow and came out of it a new man who said he would pass every bill Pelosi's House passed, what do you think she would do, declare backsies?
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Back up plan. Running for president is letting him get his name out even more.
Where did you read that? I know the Austin American Statesman posted the UT Tyler poll on mandatory buyback support here as 49%. Most people are for mag restrictions here though.
Such a shame Beto will never make it as the official Dem nominee. I really like the guy and he has some fight in him. Maybe vice president?
I question his motives, seeing as he wasn't talking this way when he had a realistic shot at being senator. Now that he's low in the polls in the presidential race, he has nothing to lose and is taking potshots. I think the guy is disingenuous, and he tends to play it safe normally.
I can buy that a mass shooting in his district made him change his mind.
That being said, Schumer is, ironically, the politician that has done THE MOST to put gun control in place. Literally has written and passed the bill that banned assault weapons for a decade in the 90s. Literally wrote the Brady Bill. But people like the drama and care more about hating the establishment (Schumer is shit, just not on this issue) than facts.
As Steel mentioned, it turns out that a mass shooting in your beloved hometown might change you. And Beto has already gone on record that this was what did it.
But sure, maybe nefarious reasons might be afoot. Certainly still a potentiality, but not one that I think anyone should waste time on.
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I believe 49% is a majority in that poll since there was a split between undecided and no's. I might be wrong though. Still as he keeps talking about it and brings it into the spotlight, support for it will only increase.
semi-off topic but bill simmons put up an interview with beto. haven't watched it yet though so I don't know how thread-worthy it'd be
Lol he just mentioned feral hogs in relation to hunters and rifles
Had no idea that was actually an issue haha, good interview though
Love Beto but I do think this attack on Schumer may be a misfire, he did do a good amount of gun control in the 90's, although that was a while ago.