Yeah I genuinely have no idea why people are arguing anything other than this.
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Bethesda: "We’re still working on the same games we were yesterday [...] and those games will be published by us"
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I honestly can't remember the last Betheseda game I enjoyed, maybe 2016 Doom? Although I am looking forward to Ghostwire.
In general, the consolidation of publishers and platform holders is a little worrisome since making games becomes more about selling the relevant platform. As part of a general ecosystem of games, that's fine. When those platform holders start gobbling up larger companies, I can't see how this is good long term for gamers. It means less diversity in gaming.
In general, the consolidation of publishers and platform holders is a little worrisome since making games becomes more about selling the relevant platform. As part of a general ecosystem of games, that's fine. When those platform holders start gobbling up larger companies, I can't see how this is good long term for gamers. It means less diversity in gaming.
Please be the case...I only planned on getting PS5 and Switch successor this gen
Developer acquisitions honestly don't bother me. Entire publishers however, that's another story
Agreed. If they come at all to PS5 it'll be a year later, but i honestly don't think they will because they can say you can also buy it on PC or stream it on your phone.
Any existing commitments will be fulfilled, sure. Microsoft was clearly looking for exclusives with this buy, I can't be convinced otherwise by this comment.
I'm happy to see the console wars will never die. It's like your favorite team had a great draft. It's not enough you're excited to play New Vegas 2, but also glad PS5 fans not interested in paying a monthly fee to Microsoft are left in the cold.
I'm happy to see the console wars will never die. It's like your favorite team had a great draft. It's not enough you're excited to play New Vegas 2, but also glad PS5 fans not interested in paying a monthly fee to Microsoft are left in the cold.
This.
People here seriously acting like multiplatform games that also release on Gampass are just as valuable to the service as exclusive games that only release on platforms where Gamepass can also be found.
MS wants to sell everyone on Gampass. That doesn't happen when you can just pay $70 once on PlayStation and get the only Elder Scrolls game that will release this decade.
Hellblade wasn't a blockbuster on any platform, so locking down the sequel matters less.
This isn't how Microsoft rolls for huge franchises- a new Minecraft game was released on PlayStation earlier this year, six years after Microsoft acquired the franchise.
Why make a Bethesda franchise exclusive to Xbox when you have the possibility to sell their games for 70$ on PS5 and day one on Game Pass?
Win-win situation for MS
Win-win situation for MS
Yeah people need to think about it this way. It's 202X and TES 6 is coming out. It'll be on gamepass, yeah, but for Sony only players, what would you rather they do. Spend the 70 quid on the game for Playstation or buy an Xbox and gamepass subscription. You would obviously want them to tkae the second option.
Spencer's statement literally says they are joining the Xbox family. Xbox is the umbrella division for all of their gaming stuff, and Mojang are part of it.
I assume this is Bethesda saying that nothing is really changing for most of their currently in-development projects - but if you're Microsoft, you're not spending billions to acquire these studios, simply to get their games on Game Pass, while they keep releasing them everywhere else forever as per usual. There's no business sense in that.
Especially when studios like BGS put out about one game every 4-5 years to begin with.
Why do they need damage control, Xbox isn't aloud to have good exclusives?
At a 7.5 billion dollar price tag I wouldn't be worried about Bethesda games coming to PS5. It's a bit too expensive not to
I wouldn't presume an announced title like Starfield or TES6 do or don't have existing contracts with Sony. It very well could already.
Minecraft is more or less a single evergreen title that spent multiple years cultivating an audience on multiple platofrms prior to Microsoft's acquisition, and has a focus on multiplayer co-operation to boot. To act as if Microsoft's treatment of Minecraft will also be the standard for separate, high-budget, single-player centric Bethesda titles is honestly absurd.
That's not what I said. It's these half-handed "we're going to keep supporting you, honest!" statements they have no intention of actually following through on that I take issue with, not the exclusivity itself.
Just be honest.
Wonder what this will mean for Elder Scrolls. I know it's years away from being ready but I think development must have started for multiple platforms already? Would be pretty crazy to keep a big title like this exclusive.
That's a sample size of one, so it's hard to say it's "how they roll".
I think Minecraft has stayed multiplat, because a) it already was when they bought it, and b) they know the power of the Minecraft platform is it's ubiquity. Making it Xbox-exclusive would be far more likely to just diminish Minecraft in favour of Roblox or whatever, than to sell Xboxes.
But Fallout? DOOM? Elder Scrolls? Those are triple-A products that will sell hardware and subscriptions.
It will likely be timed exclusives with the games coming to Playstation 90-180 days after launch on XBox.
That way Microsoft will be able to say "First on Xbox / Gamepass" but will also be able to recoup some of the development costs by selling them for full price on Sony.
That way Microsoft will be able to say "First on Xbox / Gamepass" but will also be able to recoup some of the development costs by selling them for full price on Sony.
I wouldn't take much of what he says as gospal. He knows though that his words will spread, it was just taking advantage of a particular moment to say some good PR.
It's pretty easy to make fun of console players who spammed EGS threads with "Buying exclusivity is good! IT'S COMPETITION!" ... but forced exclusivity is never a good thing and neither is it some form of competition. I really hope that MS does the right thing and still publishes future Bethesda games on Playstation as well even tho its probably kinda unlikely at this point. Maybe we'll end with something like GamePass on Playstation that costs more on PS than on Xbox or something.
Exactly. If they just wanted it on GP, like others said, they could just make those deals without an acquisition. If it's about getting revenue from platforms that aren't their own, then again, why wouldn't they just develop for and publish on other platforms?
BUYING a company means they want the revenue AND ultimate control over them.
I think they have have straight up mentioned it if future games were still coming to Playstation, like with Minecraft. I don't see any of that language here. Microsoft can get away with it because Bethesda games sell tons on PC, they can afford to cut off other consoles.
Yeah I just don't think you spend 7.5B if you don't plan on making the games exclusive to Xbox.
This is my own expectation as well. And they will also obviously honour whatever existing contracts they have for stuff like Deathloop.
All of those franchises have a history of being exclusive to Xbox/PC. Bethesda games don't have that same history so why change them to Xbox/PC
It was a time exclusive anyway.
We have to assume everything else will be Xbox/PC exclusive from now on.
This.
This thread could almost be renamed "Oh my sweet summer child |OT|" with the amount of denial that abounds,
This purchase is about winning hearts and minds for the Xbox Gamepass brand going forward. They aren't interested in a generation of short term multiplatform publishing profits. They are buying hearts and minds for their ecosystem for the long haul.
If all they were interested in was timed exclusivity for gamepass, they could do that on an ad hoc arrangement per game for magnitudes less money than 7.5billion.
That's a big assumption that all consumers that currently play on Playstation would buy a new console solely for ES or Fallout. Even more that you will tie them to Gold and Game Pass subscriptions. To pay back the 7 billion investment, they could certainly keep main (and profitable) franchises cross platform, but enforce all new IPs to be exclusive.
The long term goal has to be getting Gamepass on PlayStation/Switch/whatever else. But these games will probably be exclusive until then.
Agreed on TES6. That's definitely exclusive, and exactly the kind of big name they want for Game Pass.
I think Starfield could go either way though. It's a long way into development, and it's a new IP. There could be value in getting PlayStation gamers hooked on that franchise so a sequel is even more exciting.
Highly doubt they payed 7.5B for this or this will be a similar scenario as Mojang
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Starfield and TES 6's exclusivity would depend on whether BGS already has contracts in place with Sony, right? Otherwise, they have no obligation to go multiplatform.
Death-Loop and Ghostwire Tokyo will remain temp exclusive. As far as i understand, the aquisition will only be finalized next year. Those games will still be published by Bethesda. Future announced games i doubt they will appear on Sony consoles. So games like Elder Scrolls 6 i bet will be Xbox and PC only.
Sucks major balls, but it is what it is. Gotta play ES6 on PC even if i rather play on consoles.
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