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Bernie Sanders will Run Again in 2020
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https://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/bernie-sanders-south-black-voters-222220
Do you have any answer to this criticism other than whataboutism to a race that happened over a decade ago that nobody has brought up?
I think he can very much handle being attacked in my humble opinion. What you described is just a tactic, you don't win an election with logic and inner strength, especially with all the obfuscation going on. I think it isn't a wrong strategy to make attacks meaningless and unworthy to receive an answer. Because they're just that, meaningless attacks.
I wish this were true but I mean just look at examples of how Ilhan was treated after her two recent slam dunk comments about AIPAC and then Elliot Abrams... it's all "believe black women, yas queen, it's so great to have POC in power" but just look what happens when she holds true to her beliefs. The same thing is going to hold true for AOC eventually and it's going to be so hilarious to see half these people turn on her when they realize what her actual policies are.
"Hey guys, good morning! What are we discussing to......"
"....day."
Haha this is best way to sum of my reaction after several pages.
I will say that I wish he wasn't running just because he is so old, but otherwise his policies are solid like always and this is going to be an interesting primary process.
Ugh. Bernie needs to go the fuck away. His ego is to big and he's learned nothing from the last time. He's just wasting everyone's time right now. He's not going to win the primary. Like last time he's most likely just going to attack everyone else and help Trump again. He provides no details. He's completely tone deaf. Anything he might be trying to push is already being pushed by those younger, more accomplished in getting laws passed, offering more details, and overall far more appealing in regard to what Dems actually want.
I'm going to assume he won't.
Because we're only minorities when it's convenient
Congratulations, they had a wave election against a historically unpopular incumbent president in a situation where there are two choices. It's also very convenient for you to lump in the leftist candidates who were also elected at the same time.
And you also conviently leave out how centrists like Joe Donnelly and Claire McCaskill were absolutely decimated
I'm bringing it up since you seem to have no problem with Hillary doing the same.
Nowhere did he say African Americans don't count. He's saying it's the most conservative part of the country and doesn't reflect much of the Democratic base. He's minimizing what he lost the same way Hillary minimized Obama's caucus wins as a bunch of places that have "activists" and don't reflect the nation.
I am NOT using my four mates as the measure. I'm using them as an example. My take on the 2016 train wreck comes from the news coverage from Dec 2016 and Jan 2017. I've seen limited exit polling, but what I did see also supports my position.
they are a russian psyop created by josef stalin and sean penn after all
Anyway, can't wait to vote for Bernie. Hope he makes it another year and doesn't get iced out by a certain cop 🐷 too early
Bernie will have a big problem in that last time he was the only real "not Hillary" candidate, but now there are like 15 "not Kamala/Biden" candidates.
I mean, i dont know. He should.
What I meant was that criticisms of Hillary for not being progressive or authetic had and still have validity.
I do think that Bernie should release his tax returns, hopefully people wont go "its too late now!" If he does do it.
The vicious hostility towards Bernie Sanders here on Era is something else.
I wish him the best of luck. Though, the US is probably fucked in the near-future even if he wins and were to try his best.
I wish him the best of luck. Though, the US is probably fucked in the near-future even if he wins and were to try his best.
I just showed you that it's not true. All numbers show a smaller chunk of Sanders supporters switching compared to Hillary supporters in 08.
That's not to mention the Republicans who jumped ship to Hillary.
All, what, five of them?
You really think that 2010 was backlash because Democrats were too moderate?
After ramming through the ACA, the first major overhaul of the healthcare system in decades?
Right.
I've seen receipts.
Comrade Bernovich Sanderskowsky (his real name) is a russian agent which sole purpose is to destabilize USA and bring glory to the mother Russia.
Of course I am fucking around.
Democrats voting with their hearts instead of their minds and falling into disarray because of it is a cycle that won't seemingly be broken this year.
The good news is we don't have a shitty candidate on the left lined up for a coronation this year, so it's actually a competative playing field from the get go. If Bernie is gonna bern out, he'll do it on his own.
Do you always yell at passerby like this? This is trump in the lawn material.
And look where it got them- the ACA is a failure at its main goal and it pushed off actual reform for another 10 years
Oh thank god. I can't take another Era poster saying shit like that seriously
Whew
During the Winter War my Grandfather used to stack communists bodies in trenches for warmth.
Wow, serious hyperbole.
I think he is the one responsible of turning the democrats more to the left. A sexist horror show, wow. Tell me what candidate you would support of all those announced?
I never even brought up Hillary (in this instance). Stop with the whataboutism
African American groups noted just how stupidly racist what he said was and wrote him letters. The primaries in the south are predominately black dominated. Bernie's first instinct when losing these states is to say the voters there are just too conservative for him and paint a disproportional picture of how popular Hillary is. As if those voters are less important than other voters. Even though Bernie won multiple very conservative, very white states and had no issue with those voters.
Don't shift the conversation, your assertion that the 2010 midterms was backlash against "moderate establishment" has zero basis in fact and is some of the most insane historical revisionism to ever grace this site.
Extended interview with Bernie and CBS, it's 30 minutes long.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie...rview-political-party-views-stance-on-issues/
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bernie...rview-political-party-views-stance-on-issues/
Also to me like I wrote previously:
Was the loan scam with that college him and his wife ran ever followed up on? I'm waiting for that to come bursting out of the doors this time around. Sanders was treated too nicely last time; hope the other candidates come out swinging for him first considering the damage he can cause. Anyone in politics would be foolish to endorse his nonsense and let him get any further than this announcement.
Out of the candidates, Warren is the one that competes in Bernie's lane, + Liz is a Democrat
Hillary was labelled as the "establiment"
Bernie can't do that with Warren
Hillary was labelled as the "establiment"
Bernie can't do that with Warren
As always, Bernie is a compromise candidate for me. He still has some issues and makes some mistakes like this:
We need to get rid of that filibuster dude if we're going to get M4A.
That said, he's still the furthest left out of everyone in the bench and I'll support him.
We need to get rid of that filibuster dude if we're going to get M4A.
That said, he's still the furthest left out of everyone in the bench and I'll support him.
When your position involves how horrible Sanders is, and he ran against Hillary, then yes, it'll be brought up. This is what happens in primaries.
Southern voters are, in the aggregate, more conservative. He's trying to minimize what he couldn't win, the same as how Hillary did it in 08. You either don't remember 08 or were in a coma. None of this is weird for a candidate to do; the entire point is to maximize what you have and minimize what you don't.
So Hilary was excluded from "whine and complain how everyone was against him" and he was running against a ghost I guess.
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