Warren should drop out after Iowa because she's been polling ~4th consistently, not because of her gender.
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Bernie Sanders surges into national lead and also leads among voters of color (in CNN poll).
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I have to be real with y'all:
I genuinely do not know who's trolling any more and who isn't. We've reached the post-irony era.
I genuinely do not know who's trolling any more and who isn't. We've reached the post-irony era.
we've been for a while. I mean you still have people unironically (?) calling Hillary "queen" on this very forum on this very day. what in the ever living fuck
Everyone gets their one of two weeks in the top before fizzling out. Meanwhile the front runner remains stable through the entire race
This has been the trend for both parties' primaries the last few times, and we're seeing it manifest again this time around.
This has been the trend for both parties' primaries the last few times, and we're seeing it manifest again this time around.
Pretty sure that poster was just emulating you. I mean Bernie lost in a landslide to a female candidate. Warrens just doesn't have big appeal outside of mostly white well off people. Warren be a woman, or Bernie being Jewish neither of them are owed the election/nomination. It's sad that they understand that more than some of their supporters.
I'm in the same boat. If Sanders is the nominee and actually manages to beat Trump, I'll be amazed.
I'd be thrilled to see America elect Bernie Sanders as President, but I believe his would be the biggest Democratic defeat since 1988. Trump would run almost exclusively on the economy, and socialist scaremongering would win the day, ensuring that he gets to further reshape the Supreme Court and force the Democrats, not unreasonably, to pivot to the right of Obama in order to stand a chance next time around, let alone Sanders or Warren.
Pretty much. November's going to have a lot of upset people here
His primary loss to Hillary was far less brutal than Biden's primary loss to Hillary and Obama was.
Sanders has been driving it home that the DOW at 29,000 means fuck all for the people of this country since day 1, and it resonates.
Maybe this take would hold some merit if the country was overwhelmingly right wing but... It isn't. Left leaning ballot initiatives and policies are wildly popular. The GOP platform is deeply unpopular nationally.
There's no reason to cower in fear of Republican framing when you're winning on the issues.
Yeah that is also a valid concern. A Sanders defeat would tilt the Democratic party even further to the right. Not that it would do any good, republicans will only keep moving rightwards (openly propose eugenics) and bigots will support them even more than before.
Yeah ask Clinton how that worked out for her in 2008
Some youngins in this thread, or just goldfish
LOL - ouch. I wouldn't put this train of thought past some voters.
pretty sure the economy was like this in 2016 yet Hillary still lost
people will vote if you platform on real change
Fair. I'll bite since you're specifically calling out my wording. Please demonstrate where anyone has done what you're describing in this thread to justify the need for us to argue about it in this topic. Maybe I missed a post. Show me.
I love how you totally refuse to answer the question that was simply clarifying something you absolutely implied, but whatever...
Do I think it's more important that a woman becomes President of the United States than a Jewish man? Yes, I do.
Women are horrifically underrepresented and undervalued in literally every single social and economic criteria you can think of. Less than a quarter of elected politicians in America are women, which is totally unacceptable, and you finally have a fantastic candidate for the presidency that's also a woman and you want her to drop out of the race for a old, white man because he's Jewish?
And don't pretend that's not what you meant. You're the one who brought up his Jewish heritage as a rebuttal against him stepping aside so a woman could be in charge - at a time when news is rampant of reports he doesn't think a woman can win, no less.
At least I can say my country has had multiple women in the highest office of power. What's America's excuse?
The powers that be really don't want him to get the power of executive orders.
lol
He was making fun of your silly reasoning.
The fact that you can't grasp that, over several posts, is rather telling,
Why does the Republican party not have this problem? Nothing can make them go left, but the Dems are ready to sprint right at the first sign of trouble. Almost like the party establishment is actually fucking conservative, really wants to act on it, and is waiting for an excuse. Weird.
stop treating politics like it's fan-casting a fucking TV show
The Republican Congress will suddenly not be fine with "letting the voters decide" when Bernie starts drafting those EO's
Because Republicans can win simply be being racist. Racists don't care about their policy, so when Republicans lose they just go more racist and then they win again.
"An old white man just because he's Jewish"
That's an ugly point to make when trying to note the importance of a woman president.
That's an ugly point to make when trying to note the importance of a woman president.
Are there actually still people saying Sanders should drop out for Warren's sake?
You all told him that when she was leading, and look where we are now. He's almost 10 points ahead of her in the CNN and Monmouth polls. Thank God he didn't listen to you at the time.
You all told him that when she was leading, and look where we are now. He's almost 10 points ahead of her in the CNN and Monmouth polls. Thank God he didn't listen to you at the time.
It's actually incredible that it's what people are focused on instead of kicking out white supremacists
Except every poll that has them facing off shows Bernie smashing trump into a pulp. Think again before making an ignorant drive by comment.
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maybe they weren't exaggerating the anti-Semitism problem in England.
Precisely. As much as I admire Sanders' positions on most issues, the opposition research writes itself.
- Well-off centrist? Republicans have it easy here: he's coming for your wealth.
- Middle of the road, fiscally minded voter? Republicans will point out the sheer cost of Sanders' overhauls and his scant legislative accomplishments and make it all seem infeasible. Anyone thinking "sure, it sounds nice, but how practical is it?" is going to have their doubts catered to.
- Young, progressive voter? Republicans are going to dredge up every bit of vacillation Sanders has done on your hot button issues, like gun control, to divide you.
- Person of colour? Republicans will remind you non-stop of the positions Sanders has taken to appeal to white, rural communities in Vermont - making him seem out of touch with what you feel.
Would you support a female Republican candidate for president over a Democrat man?
Why can't Bernie see that what America desperately needs is a Margret Thatcher or Theresa May type, not yet another Jewish president.
Polls actually shows he and Yang are the only two who 10% or more people who voted for Trump last time would consider
It's less about taking votes from Trump's base and more about getting the apathetic middle to go out and actually vote. Like Obama did in 2008. That's why Biden being the "safe" choice scares me.
He doesn't have to take votes away from Donny, he just needs to make some of the one half of the entire fucking electorate who never bothered to vote last the time vote for himself.
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