Bernie makes it clear in the video it is aimed at all of his supporters. He says any of his supporters that don't vote Biden are directly enabling Donald Trump's re-election.
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Bernie Sanders says opposing Biden is ‘irresponsible’
- Thread starter GrapeApes
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This is a fantastic point.
I don't like Biden one bit. He is my last choice, he is a terrible canidate, and I'll be voting for him.
i for one do not believe that sanders would have ever refused to endorse the democratic nominee.
Sure, Biden will maybe only stop the bleeding. But we really need to stop the bleeding and have a government again.
100% correct, primaries are over and Bernie himself said we all needed to get behind the eventual nominee when all this began its a shame that message has been lost on a lot of folk so we'll do the heavy listing for you. That's what the Democratic spirit is all about, a tent for everyone even if you don't want it.
Fantasy Accelerationism tripe, that throws everone that would suffer 4 more years of trump and a 7-2 Conserative court under the bus.
Dude you couldn't be more wrong. a 5-4 minority would be only 1 seat away from a majority. One single vote. If Trump wins its automatically 6-3, and quite likely 7-2 by 2024.
Bernie is telling you if you don't vote Biden you are enabling Trump, watch his video.
5-4 lean R is far from lost. If you don't want to vote for Biden fine, but let's not post lies.
The people have been told that they want a corporatist.
They've been told that they want a misogynist.
They've been told that they want a segregationist.
They've been told they want a imperialist.
They've been told that they want a centrist.
They want Biden.
I honestly don't understand how Bernie could see the last 50 years of the US and still believe in incrementalism.
Trump is awful but he's not as awful as Putin or Bolsonaro. I would expect another backlash republican president after Biden, in the same way Trump was a backlash president to Obama. The only thing Biden promises is a return to the 'status quo' and that does not at address the conditions that lead to the election of Trump in the first place.
If you continue to promise your support unconditionally for "the lesser of two evils", they will never be incentivized to actually do better.
Trump is awful but he's not as awful as Putin or Bolsonaro. I would expect another backlash republican president after Biden, in the same way Trump was a backlash president to Obama. The only thing Biden promises is a return to the 'status quo' and that does not at address the conditions that lead to the election of Trump in the first place.
If you continue to promise your support unconditionally for "the lesser of two evils", they will never be incentivized to actually do better.
Really glad this is not a choice i have to make. So many folks were failed and will be failed by this election.
I think he would have withheld it if the investigative reporting said something different than what it did.
Biden won the primary. The voters want Biden as their candidate. They had 20 options and they went with Biden
Right above this thread: "Trump just announced he's halting WHO funding while a review happens"
I meant the article sorry, in the article he says any of his supporters who don't vote Joe are enabling Trump's re-election.
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a big ol' tent where everyone has to do rape apologia and austerity and if you want anything better, you are a bot.
It is no exaggeration to say that our very lives are on the line. As disgusting as the idea may be, not voting for Biden is straight up a vote for putting every single life in mortal danger.
I fucking hate Biden but the damage that another four years of trump will be devastating. If you think its bad now, wait until four more fucking years of GOP control happens. Imagine how bad it will get for women's, LGBTQ and minority rights. Imagine the Supreme Court being stacked with conservatives.
We cannot afford to sit this fucking election out and allow Trump and the GOP another four years.
Fucking vote.
We cannot afford to sit this fucking election out and allow Trump and the GOP another four years.
Fucking vote.
There are 700k dreamers who will be deported if Trump gets 4 years. If Biden is the candidate in November, there is no question that we need to ensure they aren't deported.
Saying the supreme court is lost makes no sense. We can get it back next term. In fact wouldn't this very next term be the best possible opportunity? The idea that this election isn't do or die is dangerous.
Why do you think Sanders would not have a backlash Republican follow his Presidency?
It's this.
Biden was just about dead last on my list of the candidates. I am not a fan but I don't need to be a fan to help get rid of Trump and to preserve the Supreme Court and start fixing the judiciary. I've never liked Sanders but I have always liked his policies so his being involved with policy decisions for the Biden campaign is wonderful news and something that should be a balm to Sanders supporters who supported him for his policies.
He's wrong. Sanders followers aren't a cult. And he wouldn't be where he is now without the people who worked on his campaign and helped him win.
It doesn't matter if she is not on his payroll. She was extremely important to the campaign and was a face of the movement.
It doesn't matter if she is not on his payroll. She was extremely important to the campaign and was a face of the movement.
Of course, was the same with Clinton, even tho he campaigned more for her then she herself.
Seeing threads like these makes it less surprising that GAF was one of the top five referrers to Hillary Clinton's website at one point in 2016.
Totally worth it not voting for biden even if it means the vote indirectly benefits trump. I'd rather have my non vote benefit a fascist than a centrist.
/s if it isn't obvious.
Because with 9 members you only need 5 to get any decision you want? The Wisconsin decision is just one example of how this 5-4 is completely unacceptable and the Supreme Court as an institution is illegitimate.
I think Sanders gets plenty of respect for his policy goals. He doesn't get any for his personnel hiring or campaign strategy though.
No, not believing women and victims, pretending they don't exist or throwing them under the bus for convenience is irresponsible and will erode us from the inside out after Uncle Rapist loses to Alpha Rapist. Otherwise the party would come down on him like a rightwing predator and encourage him to step aside. That would be responsible.
Don't let people gaslight you into thinking that it's either Biden or Trump, the general election hasn't started and this flawed confused rapist could be shamed out of the party but people are actively ignoring it and choosing to elevate rather than standing up to him before it's too late. The fallout from this slow moving car crash will be completely self inflicted.
Selling out everything for a fucking rapist that will probably lose anyways.
Don't let people gaslight you into thinking that it's either Biden or Trump, the general election hasn't started and this flawed confused rapist could be shamed out of the party but people are actively ignoring it and choosing to elevate rather than standing up to him before it's too late. The fallout from this slow moving car crash will be completely self inflicted.
Selling out everything for a fucking rapist that will probably lose anyways.
No onne should shut down sexual assault victims but it is possible to simultaneously support victims of sexual assault and prevent catastrophic damage to the country, democracy, and the rule of law. Those are important issues too. People should be able to look at everything important at stake and the people effected by the current administrations actions should be allowed to encourage people to do so. Saying what this election could cost all of us isn't shaming anyone, Its making a very valid point.
ive witness it
but most of it is just implied, saying it w/o saying it
I understand what Biden was accused of. It should be disqualifying if true.
But right now, the lives of Americans are literally on the line. That isn't hyperbole. People in this country will die if Trump is reelected. And the literal rights of women and minorities will be taken away if Trump wins. Those facts are not up for debate, which is what Bernie understands.
