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Bernie Sanders endorsed TYT founder and carpetbagger Cenk Uygur in CA 25 Congressional Race (UP: Sanders retracts endorsement) [SEE STAFF POST]
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Oh, I've been at this kinda thing so long I can almost say "decades" now. Trust me, I've seen beyond the veil my fair share of times.
Like, seriously, if the guy totes isn't sexist/misogynistic anymore why the fuck is he still doubling and tripling down on defending that stuff?
If he's totally reformed, why is he not just being a huge carpetbagger, not just carpetbagging into a race that already has a decent candidate, but, especially considering his own history if misogyny and sexism, how the fuck did he choose the special election where the previous incumbent was forced out by among other things revenge porn of all things? Of all the hundreds of races that will be happening across the country over the next year, hiw the fuck did he settle on "aha, this one. This one, above all others, is truly the best fit more so than any other race in the country. This race, right here, right now, is truly where I belong, and why I deserve to win over say local candidates that live there and I of all people deserve to win despite not only not living there but despite my own history with the sort of stuff that lead to the previous candidate being forced out of her seat," and what the fuck does THAT say about his character?
Like, how can you even begin to call someone like that, someone so cravenly and nakedly opportunistic like that, "reformed"! Goddamn.
Like, goddamn, there's a world of difference between someone like Cenk and someone like say James Gunn and how some people either can't or refuse to see the difference is just baffling to me.
People can reform. Absolutely. Cenk, however, has not shown himself to be one of those people and that's all on him and no one else.
If he's totally reformed, why is he not just being a huge carpetbagger, not just carpetbagging into a race that already has a decent candidate, but, especially considering his own history if misogyny and sexism, how the fuck did he choose the special election where the previous incumbent was forced out by among other things revenge porn of all things? Of all the hundreds of races that will be happening across the country over the next year, hiw the fuck did he settle on "aha, this one. This one, above all others, is truly the best fit more so than any other race in the country. This race, right here, right now, is truly where I belong, and why I deserve to win over say local candidates that live there and I of all people deserve to win despite not only not living there but despite my own history with the sort of stuff that lead to the previous candidate being forced out of her seat," and what the fuck does THAT say about his character?
Like, how can you even begin to call someone like that, someone so cravenly and nakedly opportunistic like that, "reformed"! Goddamn.
Like, goddamn, there's a world of difference between someone like Cenk and someone like say James Gunn and how some people either can't or refuse to see the difference is just baffling to me.
People can reform. Absolutely. Cenk, however, has not shown himself to be one of those people and that's all on him and no one else.
I don't even give a shit about Cenk. Nobody is perfect and I'm not sure what candidate, if any, could meet their requirements. I think you might be assuming those arguing against you are women or minorities.
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All I have to work with is face value, because there's only 2 groups that I can see that have a legit reason to hate Cenk: Armenians and George Soros.
"Which is why I'm in this topic."
"Oh shit, he blew our cover. Damage control, damage control!"
"I mean, if you're not his exact target, clearly you can't genuinely care about his being a genocide denying piece of shit. Also, fuck acknowledging the misogny"
Good stuff, gentlemen. Keep it up. Just tear that mask all the way off for me.
Again, the bad faith is just too enticing to ignore. Hey, I'm just saying there are probably a lot of well meaning whites who want to see minorities and women treated better hopping in to shit on a guy who wants M4A and free education.
"What candidate, if any could meet their requirements"?
Seems pretty easy:
-Don't do stuff like deny the Armenian genocide.
-Don't be a sexist misogynistic fuckface.
-Don't carpetbag.
-If you absolutely can't control being a misogynist or a carpetbagger, at least be a carpetbagging misogynist in a district where the previous incumbent, Katie Hill, was a victim of revenge porn and harassment and shit.
I don't know about your world, but in mine, that's hardly asking for someone to be "perfect." Like, how is that requiring perfection exactly?
Especially when indeed, there is indeed a candidate that, as far as I'm currently aware, meets those running. Christy Smith:
Totally expecting perfection tho. Yawn.
I see we're at the complaining about identity politics stage of things.
Your and Carp's bad faith is, indeed, too enticing not to mock, yes. Your boy literally gave up the facade and you can't even pretend to disagree with it. Y'all wouldn't even be in this argument if you'd just admitted the truth when I called it out five days ago.
How, when I don't care about whether Cenk wins or not? He's a meathead.
Like, Jesus Christ let me lay it all out here: no, I don't care in the least how suoer-hard Cenk supports M4A and free education or whatever. Because for me, those aren't magical get-out-of-jail-free-cards for genocide-denialism, sexism and misogyny, or any if that type of thing. And it's depressing as fuck to me, it's really depressing how many people are willing to handwave stuff like that as long as he does stuff that's good for women, which here is being purely defined in terms of M4A and free-college door some reason instead of say how he feels about more women-focused issues, such as how does he feel about topics like abortion/women's control over their own bodies/funding for organizations like Planned Parenthood and what does he know about them and the services they provide? How would he feel about Congress ratifying the ERA? And if the attempt fails, how would he feel about supporting legislation just like it? How about stuff like guaranteeing not just maternity leave but paid maternity leave and making it harder for employers to fund loopholes around treating pregnant women/mother's with basic respect (which in this case interacts with stuff like at-will employment just flat out being bad)? How does he feel/does he have any plans on getting police to take issues of domestic violence or harassment and stalking and the like more seriously as too often stuff like that isn't a d women end up getting dismissed as exaggerating or being hysterical until it's too late, does he have any policies regarding stuff like that? Why is it all M4A this and free college that to begin with when that comes up, as that itself is kinda tone-deaf to me, to just keep harping in about those of all things when the topic comes to sexism/misogyny instead of at least trying to connect with women a little by at least trying something a bit more pointed and s bit less general just a bit even. Not that they won't also help, of course they will, but given his past views and statements, it would be all that other stuff that would be of primary interest here and knowing he supports M4A kinda tells me fuck all there, and again, while it would help, also, whether it's intentional or otherwise, just retreating to those of all policies, having those be the first things off your lips to try and dissuade that stuff just gives the impression women don't have different concerns and you don't need to do anything different at all to earn their votes, and that might not he intentional, but bleh at the number of people that retreat to M4A and free college and stuff regardless when the topic comes up).
But in any case, got off to a huge tangent there.
The point being, regardless, at least for me, "Medicare For All! FREE COLLEGE!" is not some kinda magic spell to get away from the accusations and controversies surrounding Cenk, and it's just depressing as fuck the amount of people who treat it like one as if it were some magic spell that somehow does make those things go away or not matter anymore. But it's not, or at least it shouldn't be.
We both should and can be far, far better than that. And that ain't asking for too much, at least I don't think it is, and I don't care how hard he supports M4A or whatever, that doesn't outweigh any if that other garbage for next, not when there are other options, that haven't done any of that.
But somehow, somehow despite all that,vIm just apparently asking for the perfect and impossible anyway, and just hearing that over and over in this thread, that that of all things is what's too many choices to ask for despite, tkniw, people like Christy Smith also existing and being in the race and just.... *Sigh.*
But in any case, got off to a huge tangent there.
The point being, regardless, at least for me, "Medicare For All! FREE COLLEGE!" is not some kinda magic spell to get away from the accusations and controversies surrounding Cenk, and it's just depressing as fuck the amount of people who treat it like one as if it were some magic spell that somehow does make those things go away or not matter anymore. But it's not, or at least it shouldn't be.
We both should and can be far, far better than that. And that ain't asking for too much, at least I don't think it is, and I don't care how hard he supports M4A or whatever, that doesn't outweigh any if that other garbage for next, not when there are other options, that haven't done any of that.
But somehow, somehow despite all that,vIm just apparently asking for the perfect and impossible anyway, and just hearing that over and over in this thread, that that of all things is what's too many choices to ask for despite, tkniw, people like Christy Smith also existing and being in the race and just.... *Sigh.*
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Jesus Christ.
Already banned, but even with your 20+ pages of trolling this thread, I'm stunned at this "only the people whom were directly targeted by Cenk's horrific statements have any reason to take offense to them" shit ass take.
The world doesn't need brogressives.
Was wondering why this thread got even longer
The dude unironically dropped a Soros reference? Seems like if you're a progressive trying to get money out of politics Soros would be one of your last targets buuuuut🤡
The dude unironically dropped a Soros reference? Seems like if you're a progressive trying to get money out of politics Soros would be one of your last targets buuuuut🤡
Why are you here then?
Like, I believe you, when you say that you think he's a "meathead" or whatever.
But nonetheless, you're the one who waltzed in here calling Cenk rehabilitated. Despite thinking him a meathead or whatever, all you've been doing is nonetheless defending him anyway and attacking his critics as unreasonable. All this,vehike admitting you have no clue who else is even running or if there's anyone Cenk's critics would be happy with, spoiler alert there is, Christy Smith (and again, with trying to frame his critics as unreasonable):
More treating Cenk's critics as coming iffin bad faith, because, hey, who even cares if he is sexidt or not (and I'm not saying whether he is or isn't even though in previous oists I called anyone who couldn't see how rehabilitated he is as crazy), but whether he is or isn't, he supports Medicare For All and free college guys, it's good, it's all good!
For someone who, in you own words, totally doesn't care about whether Cenk wins or loses, you've spent an awful lot if time defending Cenk, minimizing the things he's said, a lot of framing his critics as crazy, while also displaying little to know interest or care about who the other candidates running in this race even are or aren't, haven't really even acknowledged their existence, and it's just yeah, pretty much all about minimizing the things Cenk has said and trying to paint his critics as crazy, over and over again.
For someone who claims not to care whether Cenk wins or loses at all, to not care about that stuff in the least, isn't that at least a tiny bit strange?
As I mean, if it were me, if I were someone who has no horse in this race, I certainly wouldn't waste multiple posts trying to dismiss his history of sexism/misogyny and paint his critics as crazy. And if I for some reason felt compelled to do that regardless, I'd at least try and do some new basic research about who's even running in the race to kjlnie if I really, tryly have to try and support someone garbage like that. I certainly wouldn't rush in without at least having that much established.
But for someone who claims to not care whether Cenk wins or loses, no matter how much you fall him a meathead at the same time, you've done an awful lot of defending him, trying to frame his critics as crazy, and not show much knowledge or interest in talking about anything regarding this race except for Cenk and his critics, so in a nutshell.....
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But say I believe you anyway. I clearly don't, but let's go for that for a moment. You don't care whether Cenk wins or loses. 'Kay. If it truly doesn't matter, then it also shouldn't bother you that people do indeed call him a misogynist, sexist, ass and wish Christy Smith luck at defeating him, and it should be very easy to imagine a candidate better than him.
After all, you yourself keep calling him a meathead! Shouldn't take perfect to heat a meathead. Oh wait, despite constantly calling him a meathead, and making it clear that's how you feel, your again the same person who posted this trite:
That you're making it pretty clear that not only do you not know the other candidates in this race here, that while you think "nobody's perfect" and that includes Cenk, that that's the thing, that it would take perfect to beat him, or why drag out that tired line in the first place. Why's it matter that "nobody's" perfect, unless you think that's what it would take to be better than Cenk? Why drag out that line in the first place? Those aren't the actions of someone who doesn't care, in any way whatever.
So yeah, in the whole "I totally don't care whether Cenk wins or loses" thing.
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Played your hand far, far too thick to he trying that one now.
I've said it multiple times already, the treatment of someone who is rehabilitated in some aspects deserves the time to be able to iron out their other shitty blind spots. I think Cenk still has a lot to learn from this whole thing, and he likely will. My problem is people immediately throwing him under the bus for not being perfect, I'm sure hes reflecting and thinking about the media storm that's been critical of him since his declaration of running for office. I don't like the other candidate, pretty obvious. She's a neolib spouting nonsense about options and affordability when it comes to Healthcare and Education. Not for me.
But he isn't telling right-wingers he is getting Soros' money out of politics. He is telling everybody that he is working towards getting money out of politics. Just to be clear, TYT is one of the most left-wing politics channels on Youtube.(bar some of the social science channels like hbomberguy, Mexie or ThreeArrows and maybe there is also communistTube idk) The only right-wingers watching this stuff are there to troll and vote down. Certainly not an audience they cater towards.
Getting money out of politics is a 100% rational goal considering that US politics are entirely pay to play and analysis of the policies over the past few decades have shown that they align almost perfectly with the interests of the biggest corporate and private donors and not with the interests of voter majorities. You know, that's what they call an oligarchy.
Unless you end that you will never be able to pass policy for the people again in the US. You won't be able to effectively fight climate change, banks, the NRA, poverty, the military-industrial complex, the healthcare industry that extracts billions upon billions in profits every year from a field that shouldn't allow for private profit.
Soros is actually one of the good guys trying to at least work with a broken system and playing by its rules for the time being. But that doesn't mean that we shouldn't fix the broken system.
The right-wing hates him for it because he uses his money to work towards more European integration, fighting nationalism, pro-immigration programs etc. I don't know what exactly he is doing in the US, but I figure it is the same fight for humane immigration laws and against the nationalist right-wing.
In right-winger tiny minds that's an attack on their national identity, it quickly goes to white-genocide and great replacement conspiracy theories. From a perspective of privilege, equality seems like a grave threat.
This might be more related to my previous post, but it is still a good summary: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frankfurt_School#Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory
One of the main reasons why comparing the right of today to the Nazis of the 1930s is often met with laughs and not taken seriously, is because people somehow conceptualize Nazis as this comic-book-like grotesque evil(side note: Read Hannah Arendt's Banality Of Evil) and don't even bother to learn what the Nazis actually believed. If they did they would realize how little difference there is to the far-right today.
Fox News today often spreads the very same conspiracy theories Himmler broadcasted over the Volksempfänger, just adjusted to modern times, but otherwise exactly the same.
Neither TYT nor Cenk never claimed any of this.
Neither TYT nor Cenk never attacked Soros for "wielding undue influence".
I am sure this was posted here already, but here you can get a taste of TYTs take on Soros:
They didn't do that.
TYT is one of the most left-wing channels on Youtube, universally hated by the right and the people from #2.
For fuck's sake the right is constantly claiming that TYT is FUNDED by Soros.
In the video I linked above the specifically say that haven't received funding from Soros but wouldn't be opposed to it.
What you all are trying to allege is here is just as wrong as the allegation the New York Times just had to retract about Cenk.
But since like 4 or 5 people now told me that Cenk or TYT have been attacking Soros specifically and in an anti-semitic way I would really be interested in where you all got that from.
The funny thing about all this is that some people who are on the receiving end of these anti-semitism allegations simply fight against the neoliberal turbo-capitalist system.
Which in turn would mean that the people making these allegations equate this system with Jews and then conclude that Jews are being attacked, which is nothing more than the internalization of an anti-semitic stereotype.
Funnily enough. Sorors is very sympathetic to Fridays For Future in Europe, which is a group that is decidedly anti-capitalistic, having identified capitalism as one of the root causes of climate change and one of the core issues why it is so hard to do something against it, which in the US would be enough to earn them the smear of being anti-semitic.
They did that before with AOC. She was supported from the very beginning by TYT.
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So the women that have all worked with or for Cenk say that he's not anti women, He has came out repeatedly saying that growing up in turkey and only having the turkish side shaped his former views that he has publicly said was misguided... If people cant change and make mistakes what the fuck is the point of being progressive.
What the...
I see you already got banned for a different post.
But Wow.
I like Warren. She's figuring shit out but I don't think the presidential race is the best time to finally realize you're not native american.
Funny you should mention that because Warren has actually gone to great lengths to repair her relationship with Native American communities after that mess. Meanwhile, Cenk still endorses and contributes to a group that denies that Armenian genocide and as far as I know, has done absolutely no outreach to Armenian-Americans.
This is an important point as well. I work with a ton of immigrants(not refugees, just people who came here to work in IT) in Germany, some of them from northern Africa. At some point, we talked about 9/11 and how we remember it and one guy from Egypt mentioned that he remembers that he was happy and they were celebrating, he was a kid. That was the default reaction to that event in the region at the time.
For people who grew in an affluent, western, liberal society to judge people who didn't have these privileges and draw conclusions onto their character as human beings based on opinions they held at some point is very ignorant.
Keep in mind that I said "some", though. Because there is a lot of antisemitism out there and it is not at all confined to the right-wing.
His co-host and producer is an Armenian-American.
Her take on the matter is readily available.
And he was defending his sexist comments just last week but ya know
Perhaps running for Congress isn't the best time for Cenk and his ilk to hand-wave away gross misogynistic shit he's been saying for years, as is the topic of this thread.
+ peddle in conspiracies about people who don't like him
Ok I need you to understand this.
When he meets right wingers he explicitly uses their antisemitic hatred of Soros, due to their belief in the wide vast Soros funds everything conspiracy, to get them on board with his platform.
He's using their antisemitism to get them on board. He is not combating their antisemitism he's encouraging it to get them on his side.
He's saying to them get on board with me and we'll put a stop to Soros. He's signaling out Soros because of the antisemitic derangement around him had turned him in to a top target for right wingers
What you're basically arguing here is the ends justifies the means, that it's ok for him to reinforce their antisemitism if it gets them on board with getting money out of politics.
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"Soros" is a dog whistle. When Cenk says
"We can't solve it until we get the money out of politics ...
And so- And obviously, our conservative friends would have other proposals for campaign finance reform, but they certainly have their issues, uh, with the system. The most persuasive argument I've ever made to Republicans, and you should keep this in mind, is we're here to help you, because we're here to get George Soros' money out of politics."
Republicans hear "we're here to get Jewish money out of politics."
Cenk knows this. It's trash.
"Soros" is a dog whistle. When Cenk says
"We can't solve it until we get the money out of politics ...
And so- And obviously, our conservative friends would have other proposals for campaign finance reform, but they certainly have their issues, uh, with the system. The most persuasive argument I've ever made to Republicans, and you should keep this in mind, is we're here to help you, because we're here to get George Soros' money out of politics."
Republicans hear "we're here to get Jewish money out of politics."
Cenk knows this. It's trash.
1. When did he ever meet right-wingers and made antisemitic arguments to get them on his side?
Besides, this would be a pretty asinine strategy considering that Christian special interests are way bigger spenders than Jewish special interests. Christian conservatism and nationalism are still the status quo in the US. A system change will put this hegemonial position into question.
From a right-wing perspective getting money out of politics is a threat to their power. Their only gripe is with liberal forces using their money to balance things out and they single out Soros here.
2. You build coalitions in politics. Co-sponsorships of bills reach across the isle all the time. Getting money out of politics will require Republican votes as well. This doesn't justify anti-semitic arguments (which I don't think Cenk made), but it certainly justifies working with the other side.
This doesn't invalidate the goal. He is not responsible for other people's anti-semitism.
What are you gonna do if a considerable chunk of the electorate is anti-semitic? Trick them into voting against their own best interest or not working with them and keep the status quo that favors them?
Also, view this in perspective. The future of our planet literally depends on people taking back the power from corporations. For 40 years we have known about climate change and didn't do jack shit about it because it would threaten the profits of actors who control politics with their money.
This is not going to change as long as they are allowed to do this.
The consequences are incomprehensible.
Yeah, sorry, no. The climate crisis is a terrible problem that needs to be addressed. Money in politics is a problem that needs to be addressed.
Intentionally invoking anti-semitism in an attempt to do so is not okay.
Not that Cenk is even doing that. Republicans are not interested in getting money out of politics. Keeping money in politics is what they're all about.
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I tried typing up 3 different responses and then deleted them because it's just absurd. Just every sentence lol
Dude is from Germany so maybe he doesn't understand how US politics and demographics actually are but... yeah
Dude is from Germany so maybe he doesn't understand how US politics and demographics actually are but... yeah
Yeah, I don't know about that.
"He's intentionally invoking Jewish conspiracy theories."
"Yeah, well, you have to break a few eggs."
The problem isn't the location. Seriously anyone from Germany should know better than that.
It's not like we don't have experience what happens when the scary Jews are blamed for stuff going wrong.
Or with people that deny genocides, it's an actual crime here after all and for good reason.
It's not like we don't have experience what happens when the scary Jews are blamed for stuff going wrong.
Or with people that deny genocides, it's an actual crime here after all and for good reason.
Its okay to admit you just don't understand what US politics have become. Republicans will not work with the Democrats without getting 100% of what they want, and one of the things they want is the Democrats getting nothing. Thus the standstill on so many different issues.
The only thing, the ONLY THING that forces a republican to actually compromise, is a direct threat to their position in government. That is it. The very idea that if they don't support something they risk losing an election, and it has to be the most obvious thing on the planet because most of the time they'll still stick their head in the sand.
They absolutely are not going to humor attempts on the left to remove money from politics. At all. Not unless the bill is literally called the "Take all of Soros money away" bill, and leaves them untouched
There is no working with the Republican party over this, so even humoring their anti-Semitic ideals with "getting money out of politics" serves no purpose but keeping the conspiracy alive.
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For the record the Republican position is to never work with Democrats and to rob all power that they possibly can in order to permanently cement themselves in minority rule from now until the end of time.
For the record the Republican position is to never work with Democrats and to rob all power that they possibly can in order to permanently cement themselves in minority rule from now until the end of time.
Climate change is caused and kept going by our economic system. Which is caused and upheld by our political system.
These are two sides of the same coin.
You don't "invoke" antisemitism by demanding to get money out of politics.
Some people are already anti-semites and there is nothing you can do about it. Don't adjust your own good goals because of them.
What is the problem then?
So what do you propose? It's not like Republicans have been in power for the past 40 years, yet even when Democrats were in power they weren't able or willing to take the necessary steps.
And don't tell me that "baby steps" is all we can possibly hope for and everything else is just a pipe dream. That's a bullshit defeatist narrative playing right into the hands of established actors.
And they can do that because they can just represent corporations and special interests instead of voters. Because the system allows them to do so.
And the asinine voting system the US massively overrepresents rural populations and allows for insane gerrymandering, so all Republicans have to do is cater to some rural folk with bullshit socially regressive arguments and they will get them to vote against their own best interests based on that, then gerrymander some districts and you solidified your claim to power.
Two easy steps to outplay democracy.
You can either be outrage about that, or do something: Get money out of politics, work towards changing the voting system to a proportional vote instead of a majority vote.
Btw: Exactly for that reason Germany created a (mixed) proportional voting system after WW2.
This illustrates the benefits:
We'd be fucked if we had a majority system. The UK would be "unfucked" if it had a proportional vote.
But who "blamed the Jews" and who denies any genocide?
That's fucking gaslighting 101 what you are doing here.
All I see here are people who have internalized a status quo and now think it's impossible to change it in any meaningful way.
And everyone who tries has to be some kind of nutjob or have malicious intentions.
Yes, I know. Thanks.
You "invoke" anti-semitism" by saying that you're going to get George Soros' money out of politics.
What is the problem with not addressing money in politics?
I don't know, why don't you ask me an easy question like how to rid the world of cancer or eliminate AIDS? I can certainly tell you that you don't go in front of a bunch of Republicans who think that calling for climate change action is a Jewish conspiracy that you want to take Jewish money out of politics.
Oh, so all we have to do is get rid of the electoral college? Well, now that you put it like that, it's easy!
Trortting out the "but I have black friends," excuse, lol. And not even friends in this case, but employees. Who naturally are in a bit of a pickle due to employer-employee Dynamics and this there's no way of knowing what they really mean and what is they're just saying because they're worried they'll get fired if they don't. Kind of the whole problem with stuff like TYT here, and why TYT themselves are typically against figures like Bloomberg and him using his network to give himself favorable coverage and basically buy himself into the race, but when Cebk does it, it's all well and good, and drives he's a good guy, mmhhmm.
And I don't know how many times I have to say it. People can change. People like Jane's Gunn are proof if that. People like say Jim Sterling.
That's not Cenk though. Especially considering he's still doubling down on misogyny as of last week:
And that's him, in his own words, doing that for no other discernable reason, since it's obviously not for his benefit, other than him indeed still having misogynist views.
And that, him not only saying that, but doubling down so recently, means more to mean than an army of TYT employees saying whatever.
Like why would I care what they say? You know who else says stuff? People like Kellyanne Conway and Huckabee-Sanders and Ivanka and Melania, and Betsy DeVos, they're all women who strongly deny Trump is sexist, just ignore their business/familial reasons and incentives to do so, they're women who say Trump isn't sexist, therefore that's all there is to it and all that matters).
Like, obviously that would be pure nonsense. Trump doesn't stop being sexist just because someone in his payroll who happens to he a woman, like Sarah Huckabee-Sanders says so, it any number if other women who are part if the Trump administration saying so.
Same goes for Cebk. Doesn't matter how many employees you trudge out, the guy us still misogynist to his core. Why would I care more about what his employees say than I do about Trump's? That's literally just the "I have black friends" excuse, and obviously I don't trust tolerate it for people like Trump, so obviously I ain't going to tolerate it for people like Cenk either.
Again, people can change. I absolutely believe that.
But that's not Cenk. Not when he's still doubling down on misogyny as of last week for no reason I can possibly fathom other than he's indeed still a misogynist:
If he's not, if he's reformed, why is he doing that?
If he's so reformed in this issue, why is he not only carpetbagging, but carpetbagging in this district of all districts, at this time if all times, of all the hundreds of races across the country ye could be carpetbagging into, why is the one that's a special election triggered why a woman being a victim of revenge porn and being harassed out if her seat, that caught Cenk's attention and nade him feel "this, this is the race for me, and where I can do the most good"?
Considering he's doubling down on misogyny quite recently, it doesn't seem to be that hard to figure out what caught his eye to me, and I see zero reason to give him benefit of the doubt.
People can change, absolutely, but I see no reason to believe Cenk is one of those people:
That's Cenk, in his own words, from an interview posted on December 13, of this year.
When he says stuff like that, when he still sticks by it, I'm gonna believe him. And that's on him and no one else.
Like Jesus Christ, even Sanders himself realized where there's smoke there's fire and got the fuck away from Cenk, that even he realized he doesn't want anything to do with this, and if he can see this, why can't some of y'all?
I just don't get it.
Jesus Christ! Just because someone is on your side doesn't mean you're obligated to defend every dumbass thing they say or do!
I can't believe I have to say this. The devotion to defending Cenk fucking Uygur from some people would make even a perfect married couple jealous.
I can't believe I have to say this. The devotion to defending Cenk fucking Uygur from some people would make even a perfect married couple jealous.
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