This is a thread about Bernie Sanders endorsing Cenk. How in the world can he not a focus of the discussion! Nobody forced him into making the endorsement.
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Bernie Sanders endorsed TYT founder and carpetbagger Cenk Uygur in CA 25 Congressional Race (UP: Sanders retracts endorsement) [SEE STAFF POST]
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I mean that I think by making this about Sanders in the first place that this thread was not made to be a good faith discussion about Cenk's flaws as a candidate. Which is a shame, as I think that's a more interesting discussion
I mean it's pretty clear why Cenk is a bad candidate. Even if he always lived in CA-25 and even if he was better at apologies the dude still has a ton of very public videos and articles about him saying some pretty heinous shit.
Yes, yes, seen it. But actions speak a lot louder than words. And unfortunately in the case of Cenk, despite saying that he apologizes, his actions speak otherwise as he still supports organizations that deny the Armenian genocide:
So going to believe his actions there over his words. As talk's cheap. Walking the walk is a lot harder. And unfortunately, Cenk has shown no signs of actually being able to do that.
And that's of course not even touching on his misogyny, which he's like doubled-down on since this all broke:
"The only thing liberals have is to point out things that people have said", okay Hasan.
The fact that it's THIS district for THIS race, given the reason that it's even open to begin with... Jesus fucking christ.
Cenk really needs to denounce such views from this group or any other group that shares horrible views towards any people if he is to be taken seriously. Cant be trusted if he's willing to sweep this under the rug.
His flaws as candidate and a human being are pretty long running and obvious to anyone who isn't in the tank for TYT. The man is not even from that district!
I mean, that itself is kinda important though since this is a very purple district that apparently has a jungle-primary system of all things, so Sanders waltzing into this race and endorsing anyone, nevermind someone like this, makes everything a lot more complicated and greatly opens up the chances that no D candidates make it through the jungle primary at all.
There was no reason for Sanders to do that. Especially since there will be 435 congressional races, the vast majority any given candidate will say nothing about, because it's almost always the exception when they endorse someone for a particular race, not the norm. So for Sanders to make one of those exceptions in this particular district of all districts, and endorse this person of all persons, despite all of his issues (especially since on top of that it's been a recurring problem with the Sanders campaign, not just in terms of endorsements but who they've been hiring onto their campaign as well without properly vetting and having to let go once someone else does their vetting for them, whereas for other candidates it might happen occasionally, for Sanders it seems to be a much more recurrent problem than most others), that's definitely worth a discussion in of itself IMO and is not inherently some "bad faith" thing no matter how many people want to frame it that way.
Sanders retracts endorsement
He just unendorsed him. What a mess. What were you thinking, Bernie.
Hoooooly shit.
See, everybody? This is what people who don't want him to win the nomination are talking about.
He can't even run a competent campaign. What makes you think he can run the country?
What I've learned from this and reflecting back on the Tim Canova fiasco... Sanders must be a huge Britney Spears fan
A lot of parties involved didn't think this through. Cenk has a known history. Better to cut him loose now then never though.
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He didn't even acknowledge some of the issues people had with Cenk either, wth?
"Cenk rocks, but you tell me he sucks, and he's not accepting my endorsement anyway so sure I retract it "
God this is such an unforced error, just a total self-own
That is a super bad statement. He takes no ownership at all nor a denouncement himself. He puts it on his supporters and the issues they were having. That's on top of not even bothering to do any vetting what so ever. Everything about Cenk Uygar is out there on video and a google search away too. So that at least says he was fully okay with him in general and saw nothing wrong until those around him spoke up. Even then he still shows he doesn't see anything wrong.
That's very milquetoast. Paring the retraction with the "Cenk today said he is rejecting all endorsements" make it sound like that is the primary reason and not Cenk's words and writings.
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Well at least that's something.
I'm still voting Bernie but this is legit the dumbest thing I've ever seen him do. He clearly needs better campaign people governing decisions like this.
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Imagine how terrible his cabinet picks would be.
At best Bernie's judge of character is quite poor.
At best Bernie's judge of character is quite poor.
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Great News. Fire whoever is responsbile for not catching this and other strange hires/endorsements.
Great News. Fire whoever is responsbile for not catching this and other strange hires/endorsements.
At least she wouldn't sell weapons to the Saudis and invade Libya or some shit
lets get popular streamer Ninja in the cabinet, the kids like him right? proceeds to not google ninja
I wonder if he'd tap Sanders Institute fellow Tulsi Gabbard for anything.
I've never seen this be a trend. He's had 2 questionable endorsements. Tulsi wasn't known to be shit, and Sanders was with the majority (wrong) when they defended Tulsi from Clinton's remarks.
The problem with a campaign full of contrarian outsiders who think they're right and the consensus view is wrong is that you have a campaign full of contrarian outsiders who think they're right and the consensus view is wrong.
Have you met Tim Canova?
Don;t worry Sanders pretending he forgot too.
Yes she was. She was going on Fox News during Obamas second term and asking why Obama was soft on "Radical Islam."
She told everyone who she was.
How about we focus on Bernie ability to hear and change if he made a mistake?
That's already two levels ahead of Hillary Clinton.
That's already two levels ahead of Hillary Clinton.
I don't know. Considering she tried to go to the mat to keep and promote an anti-immigrant Trump supporter/ right wing talking head on the Our Revolution team I wouldn't put anything past her.
For sure. Hopefully he reads them the riot act on doing their due diligence.
And he has improved, substantially.
On the level of admitting error, he's pretty much even with Hillary. But overall, yes, I wanted him to retract, and he retracted. Good job Bernie! Responsiveness is good! This is what I want to see in a presidential candidate!
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