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Ben Kuchera seems to have been replaced at Polygon by Maddy Myers for freelance pitches and opinion editing
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Kuchera and Gies working at Polygon inevitably brings down my opinion of Polygon by like five points out of ten. Someone defending Microsoft's then cartoonishly villanous attempts to destroy consumer rights, pitching this as "inevitable" and something all companies would do, and painting consumers complaints about it as "farts in the wind", should not have a job in games journalism.
Yeah, it's amazing that people judge the professionality of people whose job descriptions are writing about videogames, by the quality of their writing about videogames. What's next, judging a pilot by how many planes they have crashed?
Ugh, Maddy "Ellie and Dina were heteronormative/it wouldn't have made a difference if Ellie was replaced by a straight man" Myers.
That is certainly on the level of "I can't breathe" joke from MikeZ during the Floyd events.
So why are you trying to connect this to the "Black and White Morality" piece when the timeline doesn't line up?
Polygon has been excellent for a while. Their Youtube channel and podcasts are great too.
Especially this site, which is big on great representation. Polygon is amazing here.
If people are still thinking about the Gies days, someone I personally have issues with, that was ages ago. Damn lol. Get with the times. That was a long time ago and it's basically different publication.
Especially this site, which is big on great representation. Polygon is amazing here.
If people are still thinking about the Gies days, someone I personally have issues with, that was ages ago. Damn lol. Get with the times. That was a long time ago and it's basically different publication.
Yuck. Terrible replacement. Polygon will continue to be mediocre I guess.
i was going to defend arthur gies but i quickly checked his twitter feed and he is one of those capital L Liberals who still whines about susan sarandon so fuck him
Agreed.
Many years ago I just learned to not read the article at all, if I saw it was written by Kooch (or Gies, for that matter).
Arthur Gies?
I got so tired of his takes on Rebel FM I stopped listening ages ago, and I was so gung ho about that project when it started. Everything was filtered through some way right-field lens that literally no one else was discussing and 9 times out of 10 it was a miss. Also, I feel like they hate Nintendo games?
As opposed to some of the opinions in this thread, I like Maddy Myers. I really enjoy her perspectives on the Triple Click pod. Look forward to seeing the changes at Polygon. *shrug*
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Maybe you should read the rest of the OP?
This change was announced after freelancers (and other industry members) criticized that opinion piece (which was edited by Kuchera despite his title change).
I did read it. The change took place last month, weeks before the "Black and White Morality" article and accompanying criticism. You're implying that this month's events caused stuff that actually took place a month ago though. But like, time doesn't work that way.
Not the point here, but a lot of that stuff DID actually come to fruition, particularly the always online thing. Good luck playing PS4 or Xbox without being online. Game sharing within families/households via home consoles (unless you're f****88 Nintendo), gifting digital titles, etc. They were just about 5 years early and a bit of strict-ness per consumer comfort with it all. (And they were missing a whole LOT of clarity.)
Maddy is a brilliant, funny, incredibly talented editor with excellent people skills. What is this drive-by shitposting? You think it's worth trashing her entire character because she made a joke you didn't like? Go away.
That's totally false. No current or upcoming consoles have always online DRM.
TBF it was posted publicly with terrible timing considering what the team was going through at that moment
If she's learned from it fine, but people won't forget it
Yeah, this guy always seems to come with major asterisks.
He was the one who said the Xbox One's positioning and launch faux pax didn't matter, right?
He was the one who said the Xbox One's positioning and launch faux pax didn't matter, right?
Maddy is a great editor! She edited my piece here without compromising on the content:
www.polygon.com
The personal experiences that Lev and Yaraās actors brought to The Last of Us Part 2
"I would take a hammer to the arm for any of my siblings, and I know theyād do the same for me."
www.polygon.com
Nothing in that is false.
Who said anything about DRM OR next gen? Talking about the whole package.
"a lot of that stuff DID happen" =/= "everything that was proposed happened exactly to the letter."
Relax. It was years ago. You can let the outrage go now. The bad people have gone away.
Maddy is great! She was a superb addition to Kotaku Splitscreen back then, and continues to do a good job alongside Jason and Kirk in Tripleclick.
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Are you seriously defending this as a joke?
Come on, I expected better from you. She can be a great journalist and write something that is really bad and not a joke. Both can be true.
I guess that next you'll defend Kuchera saying that rape is funny too?
Looks like Rosie might be the new host for the price is right
quote:Originally posted by GwT:quote:Originally posted by fictionfree:IF anyone remembers her back from her VH1 hosting days and stand-up days, then I think you could see her as the host. I could see her doing it - as long as she remains positive and upbeat and fun. I could also see Ellen...
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Great move. I've heard issues with Ben Kuchera's editing for a long time now so it's good to finally see him off that beat, while Maddy Myers is one of the most experienced and considered voices in games writing. Should lead to a marked improvement in the types of pieces Polygon publishes.
But it was a joke!? She didn't actually want to hunt down ND devs, you know. It's a play on Hotline Miami.
Doesn't mean you have to like it, but come on.
Ugh that's disgusting.Are you seriously defending this as a joke?
Come on, I expected better from you. She can be a great journalist and write something that is really bad and not a joke. Both can be true.
I guess that next you'll defend Kuchera saying that rape is funny too?
Looks like Rosie might be the new host for the price is right
quote:Originally posted by GwT:quote:Originally posted by fictionfree:IF anyone remembers her back from her VH1 hosting days and stand-up days, then I think you could see her as the host. I could see her doing it - as long as she remains positive and upbeat and fun. I could also see Ellen...
Anyone have a link to the Maddy thing about killing ND devs? I've seen it mentioned but not posted.
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Let's agree that it was an incredibly bad and out-of-taste joke if you prefer.
I wouldn't say that a joke that nobody is laughing at but its author is really a joke.
No, I am responding to a post that snarked on her abilities as an editor because of a joke.
Maddy rules and will be a great replacement, even if I don't see eye-to-eye with her about TLOU2. Turns out people can have opinions about things.
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Fair enough.
As I said, she can be both a great editor and an awful comedian. That wasn't a joke anyone would make, especially not at that time.
The post you're quoting has the phrases
'Unforgivable sin' and 'brought up forever', you know.
I'm confused. You referenced the always online thing as if it's what happens in 2020. And then you say 'nothing in that is false'. You understand the general confusion over these two statements which seem incongruous?
The thing about the always online thing is it's gatekeeping this hobby that we all love to only certain people. No one wants that. With the changes in the last 20 years, gaming is more diverse and far reaching than ever. It's like those super liberals that will pretend everything is fixed when Biden hopefully is elected.
Writers are put in the spotlight by default because what they write is for public consumption. That means when something fucking disgraceful is written people remember it.
Pass it off a joke all you like and do it forever because it won't ever be recalled that way by just about anyone else.
Your point being... that I'm replying to a strawman? My opinion of Kuchera will change when he starts writing like he has a clue about what he's talking about. So far that's failed to happen.
Whether or not the joke is appropriate, and I don't think it was, I'm not sure the relevance to her editing abilities. Is James Gunn not a good director because he made some inappropriate jokes years ago? I think most of us agree that the two don't have much to do with each other.