Below |OT| Wanderers in the Dark

h8bit · Dec 15, 2018

I've been playing pretty slow and methodical so far and really enjoying it. I find it to be really meditative.

I've made it down as far as level 7 and so far my only complaints are

1. Game gets pretty stingy with food below level 4 and i feel like my time to death is a lot quicker cause while i have the shortcut unlocked on level 6, i'm not equipped enough

2. Game also gets stingy with crystals. Same issue as above.

sorry for the double post, era is goofin up on me rn

warcrow · Dec 15, 2018

How does saving work? Campfires?

Apple_Prince · Dec 15, 2018

I was five hours in and lost my first guy... heartbreaking.

MatrixMan.exe · Dec 15, 2018

Do we know how many floors there are?

Burrman · Dec 15, 2018

Can't figure out how to get past the second floor. I used the floor key but it seemed to take me to a dead end with a bonfire.

Any tips?

h8bit · Dec 15, 2018

Burrman said:
Can't figure out how to get past the second floor. I used the floor key but it seemed to take me to a dead end with a bonfire.

Any tips?

oh yeah this was a little odd. might need to

shine your light at the big pillar blocking your path?

Deleted member 19996 · Dec 15, 2018

Anyone know what the marbles do? I found 2 in my last run, but unsure of their purpose

Charismagik · Dec 15, 2018

Why does the game skip from level 3 to 18 if the point(i'm guessing) is to progress to the end that is apparently a floor in the

low 20s

Samus4145 said:
Anyone know what the marbles do? I found 2 in my last run, but unsure of their purpose

put them in the wall in the storage area

XVerdena · Dec 15, 2018

How do I destroy these things?

Apple_Prince · Dec 15, 2018

XVerdena said:
How do I destroy these things?

torch

Burrman · Dec 15, 2018

h8bit said:
oh yeah this was a little odd. might need to

shine your light at the big pillar blocking your path?

How do I shine the light again? Lol. LB?

XVerdena · Dec 15, 2018

Burrman said:
How do I shine the light again? Lol. LB?

hold lb

Chuck · Dec 15, 2018

I finished level 2 and am complete stuck :/ I was trying to play this without any help but I seriously have no idea where to go

Charismagik · Dec 15, 2018

I think that progression is poorly designed for level 2. The problem with it is that in order to progress, you have to use the lantern in different way than was originally introduced

Burrman · Dec 15, 2018

h8bit said:
oh yeah this was a little odd. might need to

shine your light at the big pillar blocking your path?

Thx

XVerdena said:
hold lb

thx

Donniewahlberg · Dec 15, 2018

h8bit said:
I've been playing pretty slow and methodical so far and really enjoying it. I find it to be really meditative.

I've made it down as far as level 7 and so far my only complaints are

Did you go linearly from level 4 to 5 to 6 to 7?

I must be missing something on my level 4 layout lol. I can only find the exit that sends you to level 18 or the elevator to the crazy stuff with the first light.

Deleted member 11976 · Dec 15, 2018

Getting killed by spike traps that are almost impossible to see (occluded by pillars, for example) is really getting on my nerves. There are cases where you want to preserve Gems (say, when you run out down as deep as 21F and come back up to 2F to farm more) so I don't think the Lantern should be an acceptable defense here. They really shouldn't be placed behind pillars. It'd be awesome if there was a procgen rule to prevent this case.

Arkeband · Dec 15, 2018

I just wanna say that the intro is beautiful, terrifying, and mesmerizing. Sure, it's slow, but that's the point.

Question: how do I take gems out of storage? "Take" has the same button (E) as "store" and its' greyed out.

Cromulent Word · Dec 15, 2018

panecasio said:
Getting killed by spike traps that are almost impossible to see (occluded by pillars, for example) is really getting on my nerves.... It'd be awesome if there was a procgen rule to prevent this case.

We hear you. We have some rules to try and eek down chances of it ever happening, but sometimes random does what random does. No excuse, as it's totally a cheap shot, just letting you know that we put time into it, and we'll def be putting in some more.

Deleted member 11976 · Dec 15, 2018

Arkeband said:
I just wanna say that the intro is beautiful, terrifying, and mesmerizing. Sure, it's slow, but that's the point.

Question: how do I take gems out of storage? "Take" has the same button (E) as "store" and its' greyed out.

On XB1 you have to flip between Store and Take (look at the arrow's direction) manually by using LB/RB. It's not indicated on screen at all. My guess is that whatever you use to flip between your player inventory tabs on PC will do this for you when trying to store/take Gems from your stash. Hope it helps!

Cromulent Word said:
We hear you. We have some rules to try and eek down chances of it ever happening, but sometimes random does what random does. No excuse, as it's totally a cheap shot, just letting you know that we put time into it, and we'll def be putting in some more.

Thanks for the reply. Glad to know it's on your radar. Still having fun exploring over here. 👍

h8bit · Dec 15, 2018

Donniewahlberg said:
Did you go linearly from level 4 to 5 to 6 to 7?

I must be missing something on my level 4 layout lol. I can only find the exit that sends you to level 18 or the elevator to the crazy stuff with the first light.

I did actually, yeah

Deleted member 11976 · Dec 15, 2018

Got down to 5F (but this time on the way down from 20/21F), lost my Lantern again (and died a bunch of times trying to retrieve it), and uhh yeah this is getting to be my breaking point. This is harder than Bloodborne, harder than any Dark Souls. (I've finished all of those.) But holy shit when you lose your Lantern where I'm at in the game now? I've never felt this hopeless because you absolutely need the Lantern where I'm at now. I think I'm gonna step away for a while. I'm kind of hoping that things might be adjusted in an update or something.

Deleted member 4494 · Dec 16, 2018

panecasio said:
Got down to 5F (but this time on the way down from 20/21F), lost my Lantern again (and died a bunch of times trying to retrieve it), and uhh yeah this is getting to be my breaking point. This is harder than Bloodborne, harder than any Dark Souls. (I've finished all of those.) But holy shit when you lose your Lantern where I'm at in the game now? I've never felt this hopeless because you absolutely need the Lantern where I'm at now. I think I'm gonna step away for a while. I'm kind of hoping that things might be adjusted in an update or something.

I'm not as far as you, but I stopped playing around 16th floor. Just got old having to walk back to my body for the third time to die a few feet past where I was considering the walk back to my body took what felt like 10 minutes.

Just kind of sick of developers thinking this kind of stuff is fun because Dark Souls does it. It ruined Ashen for me by the end -- a game I barely had the patience to finish -- and it's now ruining Below, a game that just doesn't need the frustration to be good, but actually makes itself actively worse in devotion to it.

Kayotix · Dec 16, 2018

Not digging it.... Glad it's a Gamepass game.

jorgejjvr · Dec 16, 2018

How good is the game?

Scarecrow · Dec 16, 2018

Are the levels randomly generated? or are they the same every run? I don't have patience for procedurally generated layouts these days.

Apple_Prince · Dec 16, 2018

Scarecrow said:
Are the levels randomly generated? or are they the same every run? I don't have patience for procedurally generated layouts these days.

From what i've noticed the individual rooms are different, but the general layout, like where a set of stairs were will stay in their general location from the previous death.

Chance Hale · Dec 16, 2018

Nvm I'm dumb

AlternateAir · Dec 16, 2018

panecasio said:
Got down to 5F (but this time on the way down from 20/21F), lost my Lantern again (and died a bunch of times trying to retrieve it), and uhh yeah this is getting to be my breaking point. This is harder than Bloodborne, harder than any Dark Souls. (I've finished all of those.) But holy shit when you lose your Lantern where I'm at in the game now? I've never felt this hopeless because you absolutely need the Lantern where I'm at now. I think I'm gonna step away for a while. I'm kind of hoping that things might be adjusted in an update or something.

This is ultimately my same concern. I keep pushing on and I'll have a good time, but in the back of my mind I keep thinking about how this is still the early game. If it seems like this much of a grind now - how bad is it going go get?

But then I have a session like tonight - finally recovered my lamp, unlocked a new shortcut, and going back through the earlier floors to see what I might have missed. And it has been great! But I'm dreading pushing on into harder territory because it just seems unfair

Funtownarcade · Dec 16, 2018

The first time user experience after the really boring opening is slowly walking around a PNG trying to find where the invisible bounds end, and the soundtrack literally one-note, I don't think casually interested game pass players will get far. There is a surprising amount of "we agree, we will fix that" comments for a game that has been in development for five years. Sword & Sworcery really blew me away, this is unfortunately Below my expectations.

JudgmentJay · Dec 16, 2018

Played 3 hours... finally died on the 7th floor to one of those assassin type enemies. Fortunately I unlocked a shortcut just before that. Man, this game is good.

Greyvvolf · Dec 16, 2018

So I'm stuck on the floor here.

This is what my map shows on level 2. The image where I'm stuck is at the very bottom right section.

When I go to the very bottom right section of the map on level 2 I get to this area below. I shine my lantern and nothing happens. Tried a bomb and fire arrow as well.

Anyone else stuck here? I am out of those shards to light up anything. I did try to light up that section at the top but nothing happened.

Edit 2: Okay, this is frustrating. I've been checking all the rooms and haven't found any other place to go. I'm out of everything and only can use food and water soon.

Stratosphere · Dec 16, 2018

So I died twice, looted my second guy and recovered the lantern from my first guy. But I didn't get my spear back. Do I have to find it again?

Deleted member 10601 · Dec 16, 2018

Relax (easy) mode when? :) I'm sitting here and can not decide to buy it or not. The game looks beautiful and all, but the combination of roguelike + hunger/cold mechanics + one shot traps would kill any fun for me. :( So what should i do?

S I C K O · Dec 16, 2018

Jesus that intro is fucking long. Was gonna just turn the game off.

Deleted member 41178 · Dec 16, 2018

Greyvvolf said:
So I'm stuck on the floor here.

This is what my map shows on level 2. The image where I'm stuck is at the very bottom right section.

When I go to the very bottom right section of the map on level 2 I get to this area below. I shine my lantern and nothing happens. Tried a bomb and fire arrow as well.

Anyone else stuck here? I am out of those shards to light up anything. I did try to light up that section at the top but nothing happened.

Edit 2: Okay, this is frustrating. I've been checking all the rooms and haven't found any other place to go. I'm out of everything and only can use food and water soon.

is that the room that is a dead end blocked by a pillar? If so try shining your lantern on the pillar. Hold LB.

Aldi · Dec 16, 2018

S I C K O said:
Jesus that intro is fucking long. Was gonna just turn the game off.

Yup. I think I browsed here while the intro played out.

You can skip it, but I was expecting something to happen so I didn't. It ended up being nothing.

Talus · Dec 16, 2018

S I C K O said:
Jesus that intro is fucking long. Was gonna just turn the game off.

It is fairly long yes, but I really liked it. You probably could have gotten the same effect in half the time, but I thought it was a nice slow build up to soak in the atmosphere and the scale of the world.

They really wanted to push the feeling of isolation.

Jaxar · Dec 16, 2018

Loving the game. My God it is dripping with atmosphere, and whoever did the music deserves an award.

Arkeband · Dec 16, 2018

Question on the sleep room:

It upgrades and adds new visual flair etc when you get new Bits for your lantern?

Chuck · Dec 16, 2018

Alright I give up. Can someone please tell me where the hell I'm supposed to go after finishing level 2 and getting to the back beach area?

MatrixMan.exe · Dec 16, 2018

I'm completely lost.

Cleared 2F and can't see a way to get to 3F. Even found the shortcut that

leads outside via the elevator

, but I can't work out how to get to the next floor.

Found a door which needed my lantern to open again, went downstairs and found a camp fire but there doesn't seem to be a way to proceed past that point. Very lost and confused.

Donniewahlberg · Dec 16, 2018

I think my time with the game might be wrapping up. I just find the survival parts a little exhausting for my tastes, while I absolutely love the exploration and wonder of it. If they were to launch a *story mode* or something where you could respawn at your last campfire and worry less about keeping your hunger bar etc up over multiple floors, I would definitely play that. I still think it would be a very engaging challenging game moment to moment like that. I really like the loop of exploring floors and even re exploring upon death and the stiff challenge from the environment. Going all the way back to the beach with none of my stuff is just extra time I can only devote to a point.

That said, I think the team made something really interesting and special and I applaud them for sticking to their vision. There are going to be folks who discover this game and love exactly what it is for years I think.

thomasmahler · Dec 16, 2018

Apple_Prince said:
torch

Hm, I'm there with my torch but nothing happens and hitting LB does nothing. Attacking also doesn't do anything. How do I burn that stuff with the torch?[/quote]

thomasmahler · Dec 16, 2018

Donniewahlberg said:
I think my time with the game might be wrapping up. I just find the survival parts a little exhausting for my tastes, while I absolutely love the exploration and wonder of it. If they were to launch a *story mode* or something where you could respawn at your last campfire and worry less about keeping your hunger bar etc up over multiple floors, I would definitely play that. I still think it would be a very engaging challenging game moment to moment like that. I really like the loop of exploring floors and even re exploring upon death and the stiff challenge from the environment. Going all the way back to the beach with none of my stuff is just extra time I can only devote to a point.

That said, I think the team made something really interesting and special and I applaud them for sticking to their vision. There are going to be folks who discover this game and love exactly what it is for years I think.

I kinda feel the same. I love the game so far, but the survival stuff makes me feel like I'm constantly on a timer and it's not fun to die of starvation (Kinda feel like there's not a lot of food placed in the areas) and then have to play another 15 minutes or so to get my corpse back. And a few times I died during loot retrieval, at which point I'm usually stopping my playthrough. I do think adding more modes on top that'd let people explore more would actually be a good addition. Keep the current mode as 'Original Mode' or something and add another mode that let's people who wanna explore without a timer do just that.

Terminus · Dec 16, 2018

I really, really want to like this game, but I think I hate it.

I think I'll stick to Ashen to for all my dark dungeon crawling needs.

Donniewahlberg · Dec 16, 2018

thomasmahler said:
Hm, I'm there with my torch but nothing happens and hitting LB does nothing. Attacking also doesn't do anything. How do I burn that stuff with the torch?

It should be the shield button!

And yea, I totally agree with your response re: game modes. I appreciate if that just isn't within the dev's vision but I really would love to see the whole game at some point down the line.

Deleted member 46948 · Dec 16, 2018

So umm, I found a spear, I can equip it on my back in the inventory, but how do I actually use it? It can't be assigned to quick slots (the option is there, but it's greyed out) and attacking with the spear "equipped" still does a sword attack.

Landford · Dec 16, 2018

Claven said:
So umm, I found a spear, I can equip it on my back in the inventory, but how do I actually use it? It can't be assigned to quick slots (the option is there, but it's greyed out) and attacking with the spear "equipped" still does a sword attack.

The spear its a weapon, you have to switch to it (With X, Square). You can also

Fish with it

Tappin Brews · Dec 16, 2018

Greyvvolf said:
So I'm stuck on the floor here.

This is what my map shows on level 2. The image where I'm stuck is at the very bottom right section.

When I go to the very bottom right section of the map on level 2 I get to this area below. I shine my lantern and nothing happens. Tried a bomb and fire arrow as well.

Anyone else stuck here? I am out of those shards to light up anything. I did try to light up that section at the top but nothing happened.

Edit 2: Okay, this is frustrating. I've been checking all the rooms and haven't found any other place to go. I'm out of everything and only can use food and water soon.

that bottom picture, with the diamond shape in it, you are approaching it from the wrong side. walk around the rock structure and approach from the top. its not a door, but instead stairs.

dont feel dumb, i did the same thing. very visually confusing in my opinion

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