of the ennealogy !
But honestly, that was why i was super happy about Han and Luke being killed off - to maybe allow the final installment to focus more on the new characters.
The fact that JJ got Lando to return really bummed me out.
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Beloved iconic character from the original trilogy to return in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker [see staff post]
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of the ennealogy !
But honestly, that was why i was super happy about Han and Luke being killed off - to maybe allow the final installment to focus more on the new characters.
The fact that JJ got Lando to return really bummed me out.
I don't think anyone expects a cohesive trilogy at this point. It was just two different directors doing whatever they feel like as far as we can tell.
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not that hard to understand 🤔🤔🤔
Just to put things into perspective, because there's a lot of "great" hot takes (not yours, specifically) in this thread ("OMG SPOILERS, LIGHTSABERS ARE IN THIS LOL!")
I am very sure that a possible cameo by Wicket would be a lovely surprise to many, something you don't expect to happen when going to see this movies - as opposed to stuff like Lightsabers and Sheev and whatever. So that's the difference between these low effort straw men and the surprise of unexpectedly seeing a familiar face.
But more importantly, this is not an announcement, this is a ONE SECOND STILL FRAME of a SIX MINUTE video about Rise of Skywalker. There was no announcement, there's barely any reporting done on this.
It's probably a single fan scouring that video for new images, seeing Warwick Davis as Wicket (in the context of characters from former entries), pausing the video, double checking to see that it's actually current day Warwick, as an Ewok, not young Warwick from the 80s.
To call this an "announcement" and blame people for not going on absolute internet blackout is a bit harsh. It's so super easy to be mindful of others' experiences, it's so super easy to just be mindful of others. This is not at all in the same ballpark as the Palpatine announcement, which is at the core of the film's entire marketing.
There's so much more energy spent in this thread in name calling letting others know that their feelings or the way they'd like to experience Episode IX is objectively wrong when it would have been incredibly easy to name the thread "New Star Wars featurette hints at the return of a familiar face" or something like that. I don't see the big harm in doing so. Some of y'all sound eerily like "MILLENNIALS AND THEIRPARTICIPATION TROPHIES...SNOWFLAKE ECHO CHAMBERS... SPOILER CULTURE" boomers :P
The comparison to clickbait - i.e. inentionally obfuscating information to generate clicks for your ad-supported site - to simply keeping stuff that some people might consider a spoiler from thread titles. It's obvious (as observable in this thread) that some people would have loved this to stay a surprise, and for many of them, it would have remained one. For perspective - even though i'm following Star Wars on social media, but also shit like fandom and rottentomatoes, this reveal was entirely new to me.
A casting that was released publicly in any form is not a spoiler.
But sure you can compare me to people who call people snowflakes if somehow that makes you feel better <3
Boy modern spoiler culture is something. If you're so tightly wound that you can't even see or hear about officially released media I don't think you're improving your movie watching experience. At some point the anger and paranoia overwhelms things and you're just too fixated on that to enjoy it anyway.
Also funny because back in the day the biggest spoiler of the entire series was revealed two years before the movie:
The best part is he says Star Wars III is where it'd be revealed...but it was Star Wars II!
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How about letting people who don't know about this to discover when they're watching the movie.
No, because then I will be pissed off at the fact that you revealed that someone is something. >:(
The very best part is that is that at release, Star Wars II was already called Episode V 🤔
The ewoks were rubbish. Maybe they can be redeemed this time round.
I'd be curious to know how many people would even recognise Wicket.
I'd be curious to know how many people would even recognise Wicket.
He has not officially been cast, though. That's the whole issue with this. This is not a casting announcement.
Well one IMDB is not the arbiter of what's official.
And two you realize IMDB is even less concealing right? You'll find twist castings and surprise reveals listed on IMDB.
I'm just saying things have nuance, and people are calling this a "official casting announcement" - which, in my opinion, it isn't.
And while it's a one second screen grab from official marketing material, it has only been signal boosted by a single outlet or individual users on social media.
Now we've shifted to "any officially released information is fair game".
Like, if the OST hit Amazon and Spotify on December 17th and people posted a thread "Kylo Ren confirmed to die in The Rise of Skywalker" because one of the tracks is called "Ren's Requiem" - i'd consider that a similar grey area with regards to "offical marketing material possibly revealing certain plot aspects".
And i realize, we're talking about a Teddy Bear, no huge deal. Which is why i'm even more confused, that in this very case, people are so hellbent on creating these absolutisms when there's other members of the community who are just asking for a tiny bit of mindfulness with regards to thread titles.
I really don't see the ridiculous slippery slope here. "The Rise of Skywalker might see another familiar face return (Possible Spoilers)" would have been a wonderful title that would have literally created zero issues, wouldn't you agree?
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Officially released marketing material has always been considered fair game. Look at the various Palpatine threads.
Well that would have been a pleasant surprise. So close to release too. Why do this? Fuckin stupid.
I don't get the 'it's in an official video, therefore it's not a spoiler!' logic. I thought it was generally accepted that trailers and marketing give way too much of the plot away these days?
Also, why the Ewok hate? I've never understood it. People are like 'they ruined the movie with these cute cuddly teddy bears'. Yeah, cute, cuddly teddy bears WHO FIGHT USING GUERILLA WARFARE. That's pretty badass.
Also, why the Ewok hate? I've never understood it. People are like 'they ruined the movie with these cute cuddly teddy bears'. Yeah, cute, cuddly teddy bears WHO FIGHT USING GUERILLA WARFARE. That's pretty badass.
Let's keep this going, the January 1976 draft of Star Wars was titled "Star Wars Episode IV — A New Hope, from the Journal of the Whills".
The fact that you are clearly parsing this thread and you keep repeating this narrative is ... irritating.
This is in no way compareable to the Sheev thing, one's the core narrative of the film's entire marketing. The other one is a cameo that might have (accidentally?) revealed in a single frame throughout a 6 minute video that is also stuffed with old archive photos. There's no reports on any major Hollywood or Star Wars fansite, there's no mention of this alongside the video. This is a literal 'glimpse and you miss it' random moment in an official video.
There's so many people that very respectfully informed you that they would have loved for this to be a surprise. I'm really confused with your insistance on your own interpretation about what's a spoiler and what's not.
It's been explained multiple times already, but it's also a one-second screen grab in a featurette some people, myself included, elected not to watch, as opposed to an official press release.
By including the information in your thread title, you eliminated any choice in clicking or not. It's easy to not click on video links, but it's kinda hard to skip over thread titles when scrolling ResetEra.
Simply having the title say "Lucasfilm reveals new cameo in Rise of the Sith featurette" would have avoided the entire 300+ post argument.
As spoilers go it's not huge, but it was still rather inconsiderate to include the info in the thread title.
It's because boys that were 8 in 1977 we're 14 in 1983. They were officially banned from liking Teddy bears, of any kind, at age 14 or above in 1983.
This
I was 8 by RotJ and fell in love with the Ewoks
RotJ is my 2nd favorite SW film, ESB obviously being my 1st
Apparently the usual casting announcements that Era does is a bridge too far for Star Wars fans.
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I put the request to to change it. But it doesn't change the fact its insane spoilerphobe mania at its worst to fret about officially released media.
People consider leaks before E3 press conferences to be spoilers.
SPOILING A PRESENTATION MEANT TO SELL YOU THINGS.
I'm still reading through the old testament, thanks for the spoiler...
Cool. Thanks!
Different people think differently about different things and a little mindfulness goes a long way. I don't think anyone's negatively impacted by a title change.
IN FACT the thread / discussion will greatly benefit from it, and that's also in your interest, i presume?
Hopefully they decline. Having casting announcements considered to be spoilers would be a whole new level of stupid.
So weird that they chose that title, it seems Io9 buckled and gave in to 'insane spoilerphobe mania' by providing their readers with some common decency.
No matter how often people repeat this. This. is. not. a. casting. announcement.
Official material hinting at an actor reprising a role is not a casting announcement.
This is:
And all of these are absolutely fair game.
And even the Sheev thing is absolutely fair game.
I can't understand how you're so unwilling to accept that there's a difference here and this isn't some slippery slope where every thread title is going to end up "REDACTED SPOILER SPOILER SPOILER REDACTED".
Thanks mods!
Also Ewoks now confirmed "beloved" by staff. All is well.
Ontopic: Warwick Davis has indeed been in every Prequel Trilogy Star Wars movie, as well as Rogue One and Solo. He's even had a part in Rebels, which - given the fact that it's a voice role and it isn't a recurring character of his, and as such could have been cast by any other voice actor - makes me think Lucasfilm shares a particularly close bond with him.
So the surprise is mostly that he'll be reprising his Wicket role, instead of just having a cameo as an entirely new character.
Which, as some have put it, isn't that much of a surprise either, given JJ's track record of uhm ... asset-reuse? Both, in his Star Wars movies - but also his Star Trek movies (*cough* Khan *cough*)
To almost quote senator Sheev:
Not a surprise, to be sure,
but a welcome one.
Also Ewoks now confirmed "beloved" by staff. All is well.
Ontopic: Warwick Davis has indeed been in every Prequel Trilogy Star Wars movie, as well as Rogue One and Solo. He's even had a part in Rebels, which - given the fact that it's a voice role and it isn't a recurring character of his, and as such could have been cast by any other voice actor - makes me think Lucasfilm shares a particularly close bond with him.
So the surprise is mostly that he'll be reprising his Wicket role, instead of just having a cameo as an entirely new character.
Which, as some have put it, isn't that much of a surprise either, given JJ's track record of uhm ... asset-reuse? Both, in his Star Wars movies - but also his Star Trek movies (*cough* Khan *cough*)
To almost quote senator Sheev:
Not a surprise, to be sure,
but a welcome one.
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I didn't know Ewoks were coming back. So I for sure didn't know Wicket was coming back. Now I know. That is 100% a spoiler title. If I cared I might have been annoyed by this but thankfully I don't care about spoilers for this movie so carry on!
Ah mod edited the title. Probably a good call!
Ah mod edited the title. Probably a good call!
Fine.
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I assume everyone gets what I'm talking about.