Are you really comparing art with Onlyfans? This is sarcasm right?
Sounds like maybe she hasn't changed much since she was younger...I worked with her on an indie movie two years ago that she bailed on the second day of shooting. She was the lead. She is entitled, bratty, and self absorbed.
Nobody is comparing anything to anything. Fact is, whether it's porn, movies, fine art, WTF ever, it ain't cool to steal content.
Do you also pirate all your games?Paying for something that can be found free all over the internet is.
So you only play f2p games? There isnt a specific game you like that you buy?
Who's talking about stealing content? There are thousands of free sex sites, pics videos etc in the internet which are not stolen.
If they pushed the responsibility of charge backs on the talent, or implemented a rating system, you'd have guys "punishing" performers for not doing exactly what they want, being a minority, being outspoken for social causes, having a bf, or just because they are genuinely shitty stalkers/online abusers. Being a sex worker is generally difficult enough as is, the honor system prevents a shitton of abusive behavior.
Dude you're painting a broad brush like all sex workers are out to scam you. I even agreed with you that not getting what they sold you for was clearly wrong and obviously something that is a problem with OnlyFans with no refund or feedback system.
So you only play f2p games? There isnt a specific game you like that you buy?
What if you want a particular person's content? And something that is of high quality and custom made for your interests? Lots of "free content" on sites like Pornhub are of low quality and from questionable sources.Who's talking about stealing content? There are thousands of free sex sites, pics videos etc in the internet which are not stolen.
I don't need to pay for sex. It's free. Games are not and it's a hobby I have.
What if you want a particular person's content? And something that is of high quality and custom made for your interests? Lots of "free content" on sites like Pornhub are of low quality and from questionable sources.
Nobody talking about sex. This us porn we're taking about, not prostitution.
How about just banning people who lie about the content they're charging for?
And then they go, "Haha, yes, you're the 100th caller today disputing that charge."Imagine calling your bank and explaining that you paid $200 for a single nude but it was not a real nude and you'd like your money back
that's fine. you dont have to. but dont judge or criticize others if they want to. And dont criticize people on onlyfans trying to make a buck. and don't think its okay to just watch porn or look at nudes at "free sites".
Then clearly you are not the market for this. But they are plenty of people who will and without it we wouldn't have porn.
Oh, we'd still have porn. Some of the best stuff is done by amateurs who aren't even looking to get paid.Then clearly you are not the market for this. But they are plenty of people who will and without it we wouldn't have porn.
Paying for something that can be found free all over the internet is.
I'm not familiar with the platform but apparently you can also chat with these girls and form "relationships" so it's more personal. You don't get that type of interaction from watching free porn.
There's a lot of lonely dudes out there with no social skills or experience with women so this is the next best thing to them.
Paying for something that can be found free all over the internet is.
To the people that disagree there are a ridiculous amount of scammers in the industry, what are your opinions on whales? How do you feel about women seeking whales or 'daddies' to shower them with money in exchange for false companionship?
This isn't 100% true, plenty of people upload themselves for free.
For me there is a difference between being scammed and entering into an agreement with someone. Sugar daddies and whales know what they are getting into.To the people that disagree there are a ridiculous amount of scammers in the industry, what are your opinions on whales? How do you feel about women seeking whales or 'daddies' to shower them with money in exchange for false companionship?
They are offering a service that people demand. Which can help people with poor social skills? People know what they are getting into with sugar dating that's not a scam.To the people that disagree there are a ridiculous amount of scammers in the industry, what are your opinions on whales? How do you feel about women seeking whales or 'daddies' to shower them with money in exchange for false companionship?
For me there is a difference between being scammed and entering into an agreement with someone. Sugar daddies and whales know what they are getting into.
Someone being scammed doesn't.
They are offering a service that people demand. Which can help people with poor social skills? People know what they are getting into with sugar dating that's not a scam.
Yeah I definitely trust the adult industry to look after people.If the gambling industry is required to take care of customers wellbeing, why shouldn't the adult industry?
So only fans is basically nude or semi nude photography, right? How is that not art?Are you really comparing art with Onlyfans? This is sarcasm right?
I think it's weird how it's being framed as "supporting sex workers" when most people paying for stuff like this just want something to masturbate to and probably denigrate sex workers casually all the time.
I doubt most people using cam sites, onlyfans, etc are doing it with a healthy dose of supporting sex workers. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of OnlyFans fans actually send abusive messages to their favs if they get burned in any way similar to how women on Twitch get abusive messages from their fans.
Yeah I definitely trust the adult industry to look after people.
If we were to address anything related to this, the indiscretions of sex workers would be the last on my list.I don't think the same people would be arguing for this if I changed it to a game publisher preying on people with microtransactions. And that happens. Game publishers have been known to fish for whales.
I think the issue here is people feel uncomfortable 'punching down' on sex workers. Sex workers are the victims of an insane amount of abuse online. It is constant and unwarranted abuse. This is just a fact. But, you can be a victim and still indulge in morally suspect practices. This is the nature of this industry. Sex workers do participate in morally grey areas that often do hurt vulnerable people. This is a big part of the adult industry and always has been. It's not necessarily illegal, but it is morally not okay with me. That's not to say the customers do not participate is scummy things too. They do. The customers are not victims here. It's a shady industry and absolutely nobody would accept the same shaddiness in any other industry.
If people care about sex work then stop trivialising the real issues of scamming and morally grey areas in the industry. There is no point putting your head in the sand and pretending it is not an extremely common occurrence. That is bad for legit sex workers.
If we were to address anything related to this, the indiscretions of sex workers would be the last on my list.
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This has been a thing for a while now. I'm shocked they didn't make these changes sooner.
This isn't 100% true, plenty of people upload themselves for free.
Thank you for writing this (not just the quoted section but all of it, I just wanted to highlight this part in particular).It's amazing to me that on a forum full of "enlightened men and women of science," there's a very old fashioned and puritanical view of sex and women here. And a not so subtle dose of misogyny.
My problem with all of this is that you are conflating corporations with individuals. The scale of "responsibility" between the two is the size of the Pacific Ocean.I don't think the same people would be arguing for this if I changed it to a game publisher preying on people with microtransactions. And that happens. Game publishers have been known to fish for whales.
I think the issue here is people feel uncomfortable 'punching down' on sex workers. Sex workers are the victims of an insane amount of abuse online. It is constant and unwarranted abuse. This is just a fact. But, you can be a victim and still indulge in morally suspect practices. This is the nature of this industry. Sex workers do participate in morally grey areas that often do hurt vulnerable people. This is a big part of the adult industry and always has been. It's not necessarily illegal, but it is morally not okay with me. That's not to say the customers do not participate is scummy things too. They do. The customers are not victims here. It's a shady industry and absolutely nobody would accept the same shaddiness in any other industry.
If people care about sex work then stop trivialising the real issues of scamming and morally grey areas in the industry. There is no point putting your head in the sand and pretending it is not an extremely common occurrence. That is bad for legit sex workers.
I don't think the same people would be arguing for this if I changed it to a game publisher preying on people with microtransactions. And that happens. Game publishers have been known to fish for whales.
I think the issue here is people feel uncomfortable 'punching down' on sex workers. Sex workers are the victims of an insane amount of abuse online. It is constant and unwarranted abuse. This is just a fact. But, you can be a victim and still indulge in morally suspect practices. This is the nature of this industry. Sex workers do participate in morally grey areas that often do hurt vulnerable people. This is a big part of the adult industry and always has been. It's not necessarily illegal, but it is morally not okay with me. That's not to say the customers do not participate is scummy things too. They do. The customers are not victims here. It's a shady industry and absolutely nobody would accept the same shaddiness in any other industry.
If people care about sex work then stop trivialising the real issues of scamming and morally grey areas in the industry. There is no point putting your head in the sand and pretending it is not an extremely common occurrence. That is bad for legit sex workers.
Thank you for writing this (not just the quoted section but all of it, I just wanted to highlight this part in particular).
I was going back and forth on a reply earlier today after the baffling derail of "who pays for porn lol".