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Good thing there's a hide chat button. But live chat on most websites its almost always terrible, its the internet effect.
Horrible, was not expecting something so severe. What is it that made the smoke that dark red colour?
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Damn, that one dude was basically the next building over. I'm hopeful that he survived, seems like most of the damage is broken glass from the shockwave. The videos of all the smashed up cars on the highway are crazy.
Im so sorry. My heart is with you and anyone personally affected by this. Just unreal how things like this can happen.
I really hope that person taking the second video survived. Way too fucking close. I mean that's like what 20 meters away from the warehouse?
I noticed many people thinking that "Fireworks cannot create an explosion like that"
You have to remember that a factory has several processes and unfinished product and prime material that are vastly different to the finished fireworks. The nature of what they produce has little to do with how dangerous or explosive the whole production process is.
A sugar factory can create insane dust explosions where product particles ignite and liberate energy, for example.
That said, I've never seen a fireworks factory. But I'd wait a bit before doubting the official reports.
One thing is for sure, expect reports of negligence and lack of oversight to come to light in the coming months. An explosion like this rarely happens without warning signs.
You have to remember that a factory has several processes and unfinished product and prime material that are vastly different to the finished fireworks. The nature of what they produce has little to do with how dangerous or explosive the whole production process is.
A sugar factory can create insane dust explosions where product particles ignite and liberate energy, for example.
That said, I've never seen a fireworks factory. But I'd wait a bit before doubting the official reports.
One thing is for sure, expect reports of negligence and lack of oversight to come to light in the coming months. An explosion like this rarely happens without warning signs.
Very interested in seeing how this started if it was caused by fire at the factory - wouldn't a factory like this have huge safeguards in place to prevent something like this occurring?
i know i'm just some rando on the internet but i'm so fucking sorry man. wishing you and everyone else strength 🙏
Terrifying. So sorry for all the lives lost and the people injured. such a disaster/tragedy. :(
Here is what happened to a Dutch neighborhood where a fireworks was stored back in 2001.
Of course, but there were safeguards in Fukushima, and on the Titanic, and on every leaking oil tanker.
Whether it's human error or bad luck (and we really shouldn't speculate at this point), huge safeguards fail all the time.
Sorry TP...if you've got any family over there I wish them well, and hope they're holding up fine
Fireworks and their associated chemicals are inherently dangerous and safeguards can only do so much. The only 'safe' way to make them is to have the factories well outside of populated areas.
From the looks of it it started at a fireworks (or something similar) warehouse. The big explosion seems to come adjecent to that.
Oh God, I just thought of something. Is there any chance of another explosion? Should people be leaving the area ASAP?
The initial fire was from a fireworks warehouse/factory in the process of exploding. It seems to have ignited something in the building next door, which has been speculated/unconfirmed reports was storage for ammonium nitrate, which could absolutely account for the main explosion.
From my limited explosive training in the army it looks a bit like the fireworks meshed with some substance which create a huge bomb. If it were explosives there would be a bigger fireball
This will be worse with people evidently people what they thought was 'merely' a large fire, and not the prelude to... this. So they'll have gone to the windows curious to see what happens
One of the above videos demonstrates a frustrating aspect of this - even in the seconds after the visible explosion, some won't have the first instinct to back away from the windows immediately since they're just not familiar with the risk, or in a state of puzzled shock which then becomes outright fear for their life
One of the big worries I have is gonna be for people driving on roads nearby. One of the earlier vids shows a lot of traffic driving by that could easily get knocked over by that blast
Apparently its already been a nightmare at that location before the explosion. Hospitals already full.
In one of the videos you can see what looks like fireworks going off before the larger explosion.
Here in the Netherlands a fireworks warehouse exploded in 2000. It leveled almost a city block. So yes, even a simple 'storage warehouse / depot'' can create a massive explosion.
Enschede fireworks disaster - Wikipedia
big explosion is at 1:30:
I don't think we'd have gotten the video if the person taking the video died or got seriously injured.
If it's a fireworks factory, it's literally filled with explosives and chemicals.
But a storage of finished fireworks is hardly the same as a factory that produces them.
You don't know if there were pressurized containers,explosive raw materials or solvents that are used during the process and later eliminated.
Until we know exactly what they were doing in that factory, it's too early to say "Fireworks can't create that kind of explosions"
Maybe not, but they could've ignited something far more dangerous, explosive and pressurized that is part of the process. It's best to wait for the full details and worry about the victims first.
"confiscated for years"...? Does this imply they were storing contraband explosives there and got lit up by some way?
They were storing large quantities of high explosives withing the city?
Surely that isn't right because that would be batshit crazy!
Thanks 2020, what a year ... this is just terrible...my condolences to all the affected. The saddest thing about this is all the speculation I see around the internet or hear in the phone interviews (talking about jets etc.).
I mean you can even see smaller explosions similar to the videos from the netherlands.
I mean you can even see smaller explosions similar to the videos from the netherlands.
That seems infinitely more likely than an exclusively fireworks-fueled explosion. I can absolutely believe the initial fire occurred at a fireworks supplier. But that second explosion is not at all what I think anyone expects from that.
That's what I'm thinking yeah. Idk if they would really store explosive material within a city though