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Being a successful live streamer must be a sweet gig
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The problem is, the big games are where the viewers are. There's only 30 games right now on Twitch with over 10k viewers. You can stream a game that's not popular, but people aren't going to watch those games. You can stream a game that is popular, but you get lost in a sea of more popular streamers.
This is why if you're really good at the game, you can stand out. In esports games, its easy to gain at least a small following by just being a pro player.
You also need to network with more popular streamers. Its another reason why its good to play multiplayer games as you can stack with more popular streamers to get your name out there, and hopefully get a host/raid, and have more people follow you.
Even if you are already popular, you lose viewers by playing a random game if you're already not a full variety streamer, and even then it varies by the game. An example of someone I follow is supertf, who is a pro Overwatch player. He was playing Overwatch earlier today to 3.5k people. Then started playing Dead Space and he's currently at 2.2k.
Nope, you have to have some sort of highlight videos that you can upload on other platforms so you can maximize your reach and earning, that is if you're really serious with streaming. You can have someone edit those for you but if you're just starting, you have to do all of those yourself.
this is where i am at.
awesome for those that can do it, and make a living doing it, but that shit aint for me. Sounds like my own personal hell lmao
Ive been streaming for a month or two now and loving it, but it is honestly really exhausting. At first i was trying to stream 6-9 hours an evening while also working 8 hours during the day but it burnt me out. Now i stream like 4 or 5 hours a night.
It actually seems awful. I'd never want to game for eight hours straight, while also entertaining a bunch of chimps in chat
This reads like "I'm gonna work in Hollywood" or "I'm going to be in game development".....lol, oh sweet summer child.
I mean, you don't have to stream for 8 hours straight if you don't want to? Not everyone does
what I don't envy is dealing with the chat. I've seen Max, Sajam and Cohh's stream and there are some dumbass motherfuckers in every session testing your patience
what I don't envy is dealing with the chat. I've seen Max, Sajam and Cohh's stream and there are some dumbass motherfuckers in every session testing your patience
I think I couldn't do it. I can't talk worth shit. My streams would be mostly silent. I can be entertaining in the right company, but I seriously doubt I could do it for hours on end while playing a game. I just don't have the right personality for this kind of thing. Would be nice though, if you treat it like any other job. If you get to play what you want that's great, but I don't envy the streamers who only play and/or speedrun one game all the time.
yeah I enjoy every minute of my job... totally... I'd never lie to any of you.
All the big ones have to be on and entertaining for 4-6 or 8 hours a day. Seems like an easy gig on paper, but having to keep that up for that long is exhausting. You're not going to get many people watching you if you're just sitting there in silence playing a game.
I've thought about this. I have to think it's absolutely exhausting. To make it big, you basically have to have a set schedule that revolves around streaming every single day. I couldn't imagine turning Video Games into work, not to mention that the more successful people get there not by being themselves, but by developing a character that people tune in to watch.
I dunno, after being stuck on meetings all day long since Covid started, I can't take more than couple of hours of being on video a day. It's freaking rough. Plus you have to have the personality and the drive for it.
i'm a fairly small streamer (100 ish viewers on average) and only do it for a few hours a night, it makes it muich more fun and doesnt make it into a job. It is super lovely to have such a wonderful group of people to hang with, especially with these covid times.
Seems like a fuckin nightmare honestly. Can't imagine a more stressful job than to be entertaining for hours on end, for a full work week.
How? Some of the most successful streamers just watch youtube videos or browse the internet while responding to things in chat. It's on paper more mundane than anything.
I enjoy watching a lot of streamers but I would never do this as a full time job. Your income is so contingent on donations and subs that you can't even take a long vacation and you have to play games sitting at your desk for 8-9 hours a day while also entertaining thousands of people pretty much judging everything you do.
Those are the ones that have already built up a fan base. Getting to that point is grueling.
Hahaha, having worked as a gaming journo myself in the past, I can't stress that out enough xD
Trying to be entertaining for that long sounds too stressful tbh. Especially for me because I couldn't be entertaining and saying stuff constantly, don't know how some of them do it tbh.
Also, when you get popular chat fucking sucks. I was watching a jerma stream and he's reached a point where his chat is awful, at least imo.
Also, when you get popular chat fucking sucks. I was watching a jerma stream and he's reached a point where his chat is awful, at least imo.
it's far better than many or even most jobs, but I often see people getting burned, specially the ones that are a little smaller and kind of depend on keeping the sub count to a certain point to survive, and many of those are tied to a single game or they lose viewers, seems kind of a pain tbh...
From everything I've seen and heard from people in the business? Streaming for a living is an absolutely miserable experience.
Best bit is, the moment you even dare to take a break or do something else? (like even playing a different game!) Your subscriber count (and your revenue) is immediately flushed down the toilet.
Best bit is, the moment you even dare to take a break or do something else? (like even playing a different game!) Your subscriber count (and your revenue) is immediately flushed down the toilet.
Yeah you really need to try and make a name for yourself as a variety streamer or eventually you'll lose a lot of subs once that game your known for drops off the map.
It's definitely a lot more work than most people realize and you have to have the right personality but yeah, it's a pretty sweet gig if you like playing games. Streamers also lucked out by having the perfect job for this pandemic as they obviously weren't affected at all, and in fact probably have made more money with more people watching since lots are staying home this year.
The problem nowadays is actually getting noticed. The streaming market is just unbelievably saturated right now so unless you're already famous from something else or you are an esports professional it is very, very hard to make it big now. You will literally go years with not making much money unless you get lucky. The amount of money the top streamers get is absolutely absurd, though.
The problem nowadays is actually getting noticed. The streaming market is just unbelievably saturated right now so unless you're already famous from something else or you are an esports professional it is very, very hard to make it big now. You will literally go years with not making much money unless you get lucky. The amount of money the top streamers get is absolutely absurd, though.
Being succesful at anything is a sweet gig. Getting there and maintaining it is a whole different level.
Can't imagine what it must be to entertain people 6 days a week for 8 hours a day. Plus all the time it takes to edit videos, manage schedules and stuff. Exhausting.
Can't imagine what it must be to entertain people 6 days a week for 8 hours a day. Plus all the time it takes to edit videos, manage schedules and stuff. Exhausting.
I feel like loosing yourself in the parts of your personality that get a reaction from your audience and get you money might be a real risk.
Having to be on for so many hours a day each day is gonna take a toll in some way.
Should you actually be a person that is able to handle that naturally and also be in a position where you don't have to stream every day for a long time I can see it being a nice deal though.
Otherwise a job is a job with every ups and downs that normal ones have.
Having to be on for so many hours a day each day is gonna take a toll in some way.
Should you actually be a person that is able to handle that naturally and also be in a position where you don't have to stream every day for a long time I can see it being a nice deal though.
Otherwise a job is a job with every ups and downs that normal ones have.
Absolutely the opposite. For starters getting big as a speedrunner is even more unlikely since your audience is limited to people who like the one game you play, so those that make it a full time career are usually right on the breadline. Second, that audience will drop you like a stone the moment you stream anything else. Third, you'll be playing the exact same game for 6+ hours a day every single day for years and years, eventually grinding for miniscule time improvements requiring flawless luck and execution because your income relies entirely on finding reasons to continue playing a game you've long since got sick of.
Relatively the same concept for anyone that makes their audience from playing only one game, it is easier to grow early on but infinitely harder to maintain an audience compared to variety streamers. Take something like Overwatch, a meta comes along that is absolutely no fun to play for you? Well unfortunately you still need to play 6-8 hours a day to stay afloat while also remaining entertaining.
Zelda/Mario/Pokemon runners have it a little easier since they can switch to another game in the series and keep their viewers, but every single other speedrunner I've watched eventually takes either a long break, switches games and loses 90% of the viewers, switches games to something they don't enjoy playing to keep their viewers, totally disappears or eventually spends their entire streams being miserable and moaning about the game because the pressure of needing to continue playing a game you've long since tired of playing, but have to continue because you need to keep a roof over your head, gets too great.
A few here have pointed it out to a similar degree but yeah I work hard already as it is so that aspect wouldn't change. The problem is I'm introverted and get burned out. If I have to entertain people for that long I'd get burned out unless I built my community and could make a living out of being extremely chill and playing games that I like.
It's absolutely painful as an introvert. I think it's easy to power through depending on the mood, the game, etc.
But just feeling the constant need to talk is stressful.
i dont know why ppl keep saying "its incredibly tiresome to play 8 hours of games every day"
well no shit, that is indeed tiresome, but a lot of successful streamers dont do that. In fact, not all successful streamers stream 8 hours either. Or every day. Dr Disrespect does 4-5 hours nowadays and 3 days a week.
Or look at someone like Greekgodx who barely has a schedule, barely does anything other than watch youtube videos and get baited by his chat and play games that he ragequits half the time. Still gets thousands of viewers.
Trainwrecks is very successful and all he does is chat shit and play party games with people more entertaining than him.
Sure, a lot of the successful streamres are razor sharp game focused on a tight schedule, but the sweetest gigs are the ones where you get thousands of viewers even when you're just reaction to random youtube videos.
well no shit, that is indeed tiresome, but a lot of successful streamers dont do that. In fact, not all successful streamers stream 8 hours either. Or every day. Dr Disrespect does 4-5 hours nowadays and 3 days a week.
Or look at someone like Greekgodx who barely has a schedule, barely does anything other than watch youtube videos and get baited by his chat and play games that he ragequits half the time. Still gets thousands of viewers.
Trainwrecks is very successful and all he does is chat shit and play party games with people more entertaining than him.
Sure, a lot of the successful streamres are razor sharp game focused on a tight schedule, but the sweetest gigs are the ones where you get thousands of viewers even when you're just reaction to random youtube videos.
What are your thoughts on cyberpunk?
What are your thoughts on Assassin Creed?
What are your thoughts on demon's souls?
Are you enjoying this game?
Is this fun?
Have you talked about the leaks yet?
Have you talked about the new trailer?
What is this game? (Doesn't read the title of the stream)
I don't think he likes this game.
be prepare to deal with this shit lmao
What are your thoughts on Assassin Creed?
What are your thoughts on demon's souls?
Are you enjoying this game?
Is this fun?
Have you talked about the leaks yet?
Have you talked about the new trailer?
What is this game? (Doesn't read the title of the stream)
I don't think he likes this game.
be prepare to deal with this shit lmao
i bet you get used to that. especially if you are a variety streamer and can switch it up as often as you like.
Tbh the trick isn't entertaining the audience, while I'm sure that's part of it, if you're having fun with the game it reflects on the audience and they will enjoy themselves
I've worked with some middle school kids, and quite a few of them were 100% convinced they could drop out of school and just make it rich like PDP by playing Minecraft and dressing provocatively. It saddened me greatly.
Did twitch for a time had a decent following 500ish followers good 20 viewers a stream but in the end to me it just feels like another job.. you have to prep, clean up wiring especially in this WFH COVID time, correct lightning, decent internet connection. On top of spending time with partner or family, eat, work out etc you don't get time to breathe its why I stopped.
I also have seem some scummy streamers.. one person in particular.. only gets donations usually from 2 people he has had sex with and flies to america and germany every few months to see them. This person was in an open relationship and had 3 children and low and behold since he did this.. he is getting divorced....
Streaming to me seens very depressing if you are doing it full time
I also have seem some scummy streamers.. one person in particular.. only gets donations usually from 2 people he has had sex with and flies to america and germany every few months to see them. This person was in an open relationship and had 3 children and low and behold since he did this.. he is getting divorced....
Streaming to me seens very depressing if you are doing it full time