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The_hypocrite

Banned
Oct 29, 2017
2,953
Flyover State
Last count I had it was a totalitarian dictatorship. Unless we are now going to make it the moral responsibility of the subjugated to overthrow an opressive regime by force?

The CCP is trash. The Chinese people are not.
Yes, it is their responsibility. They delegate the power on them. The same way that americans are responsible for Trump, Brazilians for Bolsonaro, Duterte, etc. People are responsible for the leaders they support.
 
Jun 6, 2019
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www.cnn.com

Beijing tightens grip over coronavirus research, amid US-China row on virus origin | CNN

China has imposed restrictions on the publication of academic research on the origins of the novel coronavirus, according to a central government directive and online notices published by two Chinese universities, that have since been removed from the web.

Basically, history will repeat itself since China refuses to research the origins of how the vírus started.

It's high time to divest from China and isolate them.
Their refusal to investigate and publish the origin of the virus is a great disservice to Science all over the world.

Scientists deserve to know everything if we are to band together as a species to come up with a vaccine and prevention

The rest of the world should have done that a long time ago over their treatment of the Uyghurs.
 

Cranster

Prophet of Truth
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
9,788
Divest from China? Punish people for their government's actions? That's some real horseshit.

We should pressure the Chinese government but you can't just close Chinese factories
Nah. the Chinese government did this before with SARS. All countries with ties to china who were impacted by this virus should cancel all debt to them and put pressure on companies to pull out until they are more willing to co-operate.
 

Mr. Wonderful

Member
Oct 27, 2017
2,295
It seems like people are getting way too caught up in the debate of "how" these diseases are being spread, whether it's wet markets - which some of you probably saw a single YouTube video about and are ready to declare all wet markets as safe as Whole Foods after a simple act of Chinese soft-power - and truly needing to understand HOW these diseases are jumping from animals to humans repeatedly in China.

SARS, Avian Bird Flu, Swine Flu, and now COVID-19. Something is fucked up in China/Southeast Asia, and for the sake of all of humanity, we need to discover what the cause is, and improve conditions, sanitary or otherwise, to prevent this sort of thing from ever happening again.
 

m_shortpants

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,246
Nah. the Chinese government did this before with SARS. All countries with ties to china who were impacted by this virus should cancel all debt to them and put pressure on companies to pull out until they are more willing to co-operate.

Yup. Fuck the CCP for this and fuck them for their treatment of minorities.

Not to mention the practice of stealing said minorities internal organs for the transplant markets.
 
Mar 29, 2018
7,078
Thats a function of the country still being a poor third world Country for a vast majority of the population. You go anywhere in SE Asia and you'll see similar wet markets. They aren't the problem because those merchants can't afford the same conditions as in the west.

as for the wildlife trade, thats been banned after this crisis, though enforcing this will be like enforcing illegal drug bans... it's going to be tough.
www.businessinsider.com

China just banned the trade and consumption of wild animals. Experts think the coronavirus jumped from live animals to people at a market.

Experts think the coronavirus jumped from animals to people in a market in Wuhan, China. Officials have now banned the wildlife trade nationwide.
I've been to Chinese wet markets. They are certainly cleaner than open air markets in SE Asia.
Yep, I know they're everywhere (even in many places in "the west") I've just seen a couple of threads and videos (on various websites) about how the problem in China is actually the overall culture, not just the wet markets - e.g. visitors to China from neighbouring countries reporting wild hygiene issues and strange idiosyncrasies like "road kill stalls" where living or dead animals are scooped off roads and cooked there and then - all of this to the horror of the also-Eastern visitors. The stories I saw were from Indians, Egyptians, Vietnamese, Malays - all aghast at what they saw, even from countries where wet markets are a massive part of the food culture.

BUT it probably all came down to anecdotal evidence in the end, so not reliable anyway.