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Be honest, do you actually think we will stop climate change in its tracks? Are we good enough for that?

Will we do enough to save the planet?

  • Yes

    Votes: 181 10.5%

  • No

    Votes: 1,548 89.5%
  • Total voters
    1,729
Magic-Man

Magic-Man

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No "this thread is pessimistic" posts. No "gotta be optimistic" comments. No "if this and this and this all happen, then maybe". Do you believe that we will do enough to save our planet? As our world currently is, are we doomed? Are the next generations fucked?
 
Zed

Zed

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Oct 28, 2017
2,544
Lol no.

The planet is fucked. Humanity is greedy and self serving and will not sacrifice things for the good of future generations.
 
Pickman

Pickman

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Nov 20, 2017
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My kids will see the escalation of mass starvation on this planet, and their kids will see famine kill a good part of the world's population.
 
Baccus

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Dec 4, 2018
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We will IF someone, somewhere finds an energy source way cheaper than fossils on a scale that even businessmen would be foolish not to adopt it.

Basically our only hope are the Chinese and the Germans.
 
Zygnosis

Zygnosis

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Dec 1, 2017
559
No, climate change is natural to Earth. We can't stop something which is cosmic.

We can on stop pollutingthe Earth though.
 
Hasseigaku

Hasseigaku

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Oct 30, 2017
3,545
No. I have more comprehensive thoughts on why but no.

Consider the degree to which society will have to change in order to cut CO2 enough and then consider that lots of places have had to fight tooth and nail just to ban plastic straws.

Better pray for a tech miracle.
 
Small Red Boy

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If we keep going as we are no, we need a system change. And it isn't so much stopping, but making the consequences less desatrous. There won't be a switch, it is/will be progressive, and we are already living it.
 
Pickman

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Sean

Sean

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Oct 25, 2017
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No, and we're not going to have the infrastructure, resources, or personnel to deal with the cascading increase in rampaging fires that will happen as the temperature rises, because the Right is insane and the "Moderates" don't give a fuck.

And that's sadly the tip of the iceberg.
 
Speevy

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Oct 26, 2017
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Like a lazy person eating chips, completely out of shape, waddles out of bed and asks "Do you think I will break that olympic track record?" and then falls back asleep.
 
Tygre

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Oct 25, 2017
11,116
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Once again, the poll asks a different question to the thread title.

We won't "stop climate change in its tracks", not any time soon at least because that is a system way beyond out current control.

We will do enough to "save the planet" if by "save the planet" you mean "maintain the environment to such a degree that humans can continue to survive".
 
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Chivalry

Chivalry

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Nov 22, 2018
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Scientists and top CEOs knew about it all fourty years ago. Nobody did anything then and nobody will do anything now, as long as there's profit to be made from it all. +5 degrees by 2070 is looking optimistic at this point.
 
Zygnosis

Zygnosis

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Dec 1, 2017
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Pickman said:





I can keep going, if you like.
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I can too. From your last link:

" Earth's climate has changed naturally over the past 650,000 years, moving in and out of ice ages and warm periods. Changes in climate occur because of alterations in Earth's energy balance, which result from some kind of external factor or "forcing"—an environmental factor that influences the climate. The ice ages and shifting climate were caused by a combination of changes in solar output, Earth's orbit, ocean circulation, albedo (the reflectivity of the Earth's surface) and makeup of the atmosphere (the amounts of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as water vapor, methane, nitrous oxide and ozone that are present)."

It is natural. We CAN't stop it.
 

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Zygnosis said:
I can too. From your last link:

" Earth's climate has changed naturally over the past 650,000 years, moving in and out of ice ages and warm periods. Changes in climate occur because of alterations in Earth's energy balance, which result from some kind of external factor or "forcing"—an environmental factor that influences the climate. The ice ages and shifting climate were caused by a combination of changes in solar output, Earth's orbit, ocean circulation, albedo (the reflectivity of the Earth's surface) and makeup of the atmosphere (the amounts of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as water vapor, methane, nitrous oxide and ozone that are present)."

It is natural. We CAN't stop it.
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Dude... yes, but no.

We aren't talking about natural climate change here.
 
Biske

Biske

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Nov 11, 2017
8,273
No. We are decades too late and its a struggle to dip our toes into the water of doing something about it. Human life on this planet is going to get shittier and shittier.
 
Pickman

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Zygnosis said:
I can too. From your last link:

" Earth's climate has changed naturally over the past 650,000 years, moving in and out of ice ages and warm periods. Changes in climate occur because of alterations in Earth's energy balance, which result from some kind of external factor or "forcing"—an environmental factor that influences the climate. The ice ages and shifting climate were caused by a combination of changes in solar output, Earth's orbit, ocean circulation, albedo (the reflectivity of the Earth's surface) and makeup of the atmosphere (the amounts of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as water vapor, methane, nitrous oxide and ozone that are present)."

It is natural. We CAN't stop it.
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You cherry picked one paragraph about ice ages, which the rest of the site makes clear is NOT the cause of this most recent change to climate. The science is there and completely irrefutable. The things happening now are because of humanity.
 
netprints

netprints

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Oct 25, 2017
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I worry for my children and what they will have to deal with. People are always in it for short term gains, they never care about long term issues. Greed will destroy this planet because humans are so selfish.
 

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Zygnosis

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Peltz said:
Dude... yes, but no.

We aren't talking about natural climate change here.
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I gave an answer to OPs question, whish is: "Be honest, do you actually think we will stop climate change in it's tracks? Are we good enough for that?"

My answer is: No, we can't stop something that is natural to Earth.
 
Zaphod

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Aug 21, 2019
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4 years ago I thought we could fix it. Now I just hope the century doesn't end in complete catastrophe.
 

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Zygnosis said:
I gave an answer to OPs question, whish is: "Be honest, do you actually think we will stop climate change in it's tracks? Are we good enough for that?"

My answer is: No, we can't stop something that is natural to Earth.
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It's pretty clear what the OP is asking. He's specifically asking about the threat of man-made climate change.
 
Volimar

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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We won't stop it, but it's not the end of humanity either. Those with means will endure, those without will suffer.
 
Ciao

Ciao

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Jun 14, 2018
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I don't think we will. I expect everything to get worse in the coming decades.
 

Ecotic

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Oct 27, 2017
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It'll be a thousands-year journey. It'll get worse before it gets better, but humanity will survive, technology will still progress, and the carbon levels will eventually go down as we switch to clean energy and natural processes or human intervention will lower the carbon in the atmosphere. Biodiversity will take a massive hit by the end of it.
 
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