And that was with the budget being parred down setwise.
I remember listening too a podcast where they mentioned that smallvile was in the top 10 television shows for WB in terms of money made.
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Batwoman S1 |OT| The Rise of the House of Kane - 8/7c on The CW
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And that was with the budget being parred down setwise.
I remember listening too a podcast where they mentioned that smallvile was in the top 10 television shows for WB in terms of money made.
And got sued because of their short changing Millar and Gough from their packaging scheme or something, I actually forget exactly what the issue was.
i don't know if it was the case of just pilot episode kinks or if i genuinely didn't enjoy the episode, haven't really ever been a gotham family fan but figured since i enjoyed green arrow somewhat when it started that i'd probably enjoy this too
if only they'd let me give them some more money for smallville related stuff and release seasons 1-5 on blu-ray
Batman has caves everywhere even under arkham in certain comics and the games.
And the point of second episodes are to see if they can repeat the pilot with half the budget and time
The show is gonna take a few months to find itself, that's just how these things go.
I'm wondering how the timeline of this show is going to work out. Right now, we're over a year behind the other Arrowverse shows - Kate had her full costume by the time Elseworlds took place - but they also have to catch up to the present before Crisis.
It also has me wondering if Alice is going to actually be the full season villain.
It also has me wondering if Alice is going to actually be the full season villain.
Her name is Mary, so there's a good chance she could be Bloody Mary
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She's more likely Flamebird, though
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Hes got proxy caves everywhere. In the Arkham games he has one under Arkham Asylum as well. Hopefully they play off the fact its a back up cave and thats why it has such a shitty suit and completely ignore the whole "perfection" bullshit.
Also how old is Batman meant to be here? in his 40s I assume? Older than Superman from the other Earth which is odd.
Probably 5-10 years older than Superman. Supes was active and established when Kara was 13. That may be why he stepped down - because he's getting to old for this. Maybe searching the world for Lazarus pits or a successor.
I find that the majority of the time that isn't the case. Often pilots have a completely different tone, different actors, different budget, even different running times, compared to what the show ends up being.
Distinctly remember her having a stepsister, she's very jolly and likes Kate, Kate thinks she's annoying from what I recall.
Oh. Maybe it's the cousin I'm thinking of.
Thought they'd take their time with the Alice reveal, could've at least had another episode before.
The cowl right know looks really disproportionate, hoping for the wig sooner rather than later. Super distracting.
Overall, was fine. Not super acting but works for the show.
I really dislike New Curtis. Well, maybe dislike is a strong word, but I dont get Luke Fox vibes from him at all. This is supposed to be veteran/ex military Luke Fox? Yeah, ok.
Also, I dont see how guys are confused that that's the Batcave under the building. It's clearly an outpost. It's small as hell, no vehicles, limited tech. Even if you didnt know the cave's supposed to be under Wayne Manor, nothing about it screams Batcave. More like Bat Room.
Decent premiere. I didnt see anything great, but its usual origin story stuff. It'll find its footing when she becomes the actual Batwoman and not just pretend Batman. Both Batsuits are pretty terrible though.
Also, I dont see how guys are confused that that's the Batcave under the building. It's clearly an outpost. It's small as hell, no vehicles, limited tech. Even if you didnt know the cave's supposed to be under Wayne Manor, nothing about it screams Batcave. More like Bat Room.
Decent premiere. I didnt see anything great, but its usual origin story stuff. It'll find its footing when she becomes the actual Batwoman and not just pretend Batman. Both Batsuits are pretty terrible though.
It always sucks coming to these threads with enthusiasm and excitement and reading all the negativity.
I thought it was really good. Loved Ruby as Kate, I can see the interesting relationships developing already and I felt like Gotham was pretty distinct from the other CW shows.
And I'm not even a Batman guy.
I thought it was really good. Loved Ruby as Kate, I can see the interesting relationships developing already and I felt like Gotham was pretty distinct from the other CW shows.
And I'm not even a Batman guy.
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It was a really good premiere!
It's best to place the usual peanut gallery on ignore
It will be Ray or James's suit spray painted black with an LED bat logo and a new helmet.
Really enjoyed that. Maybe it's because I have watched 0 seconds of all the other CW DC shows. Can't wait for more!
"This is something that's never happened in the Arrowverse before."
-Batwoman Writers.
Yeah, they keep doing the exact same plot over and over, but it's not just black characters. See Cisco, Ray, Winn etc. It's usual coming of age Tech Guy stuff. This is just the worst one so far... at least Curtis was a big guy. New Curtis.. err, Luke is just much more glaring. He isn't even close. This dude is the same size as Ruby and then they super nerded up his character on top of it.
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This was definitely an Arrowverse pilot.
Kat and Alice are the highlights for sure. Ruby Rose will carry this much like Melissa did for season 1 of Supergirl.
I liked the supporting cast well enough and there's room for growth.
Kat and Alice are the highlights for sure. Ruby Rose will carry this much like Melissa did for season 1 of Supergirl.
I liked the supporting cast well enough and there's room for growth.
To be fair, they're probably not keeping that suit past episode 2 or 3.
Its the same suit, just gets a new cowl and red added to the current suit.
She cannot act. Has she ever been good in anything? A 4x4 in the bat suit would have more range.
Gotham wasn't a Batman show. It was teen Batman in training.
I loved Gotham. I would love to see a continuation with an adult Batman.
When Warner Bros has exhausted every conceivable avenue for Batman motion pictures & they've discovered they can no longer make money off of him on the silver screen. Then & only then will we ever get a chance at a Batman TV show. WB already doesn't play well with the TV side of things for DC. So Batman is not showing up in his own show on TV in the near future.
Gotham is really the closest thing we'll probably get for a long time.
It's Arrowverse right? It's can't be that bad. I think folks place way to high an esteem on these shows. It's junk food. Take it for what it is and nothing.
Arrow, Flash, Legends etc are just fun super hero soap dramas. Nothing more or less.
Arrow, Flash, Legends etc are just fun super hero soap dramas. Nothing more or less.
Yep. I enjoy them for what they are and appreciate it when something about them stands out. See: the great Harrison Wells acting in season one of the flash, the stunts in arrow, the charm of Supergirl, the writing and music and style of black lightning.
They're my empty calorie shows and I love them.
Batman can be done too well on tv, WB doesn't want to risk the far more lucrative box-office money.
Pilot was pretty bad. I've at least liked the lead in all of the arrowverse shows so far even if I didn't necessarily like the pilot. Nothing in this one did anything for me.