And focus on core Battlefield gamemodes.Seriously just cut any and all single player content in the future. The same goes for Co-op content. Focus on multiplayer i.e maps and weapons. That is why people play BF.
And focus on core Battlefield gamemodes.Seriously just cut any and all single player content in the future. The same goes for Co-op content. Focus on multiplayer i.e maps and weapons. That is why people play BF.
Nothing ever said about battlefield V by Dice ever aged well.
yup, still play it nowadays. Battlefield 5 was such a mess from the first reveal.bf4 remain the last good battlefield and i don't see that changing any time soon
True. BF4 still looks amazing and plays great. It would be great if Bf4 still got updates, like new guns and maps, but AAA-multiplayer games have weird mentality that they stop supporting the game after a year or two, even if the game still has a solid playerbase. Meanwhile CS:GO and Siege are still getting constant updates.bf4 remain the last good battlefield and i don't see that changing any time soon
BFV has the best gunplay in the series and the best gunplay of any FPS on the market today. I really enjoyed the Pacific content and the Greek maps.
You're going to have to read between the lines because they're too classy to bad mouth their employer on the way out.
the new people responsible for the last TTK debacle are now running the show.
As a former DICE veteran, I think I can give some insight. Of course there is always more than one single reason, but I think a big part is already answered in your question: veterans. When you've worked on the same franchise for -10 years, you've seen it all. Having the same passion for the next Battlefield gets harder and harder, and at some point it is better to realize it is time to take a break and do something else for a bit.
It is not always a nefarious thing when people move on. I still love Battlefield and DICE, and heck, even EA (an excellent employer).
Hope that sheds some light.
Favoring metrics over player clear and detailed feedback from vets who have been playing the game for decades to chase this or that trend is just bad at the conceptual level. There's no sugar coating it. They ignored good advice because of what a spreadsheet said. That is how we get stuff like "sense of pride and accomplishment."
Yes, please. Single player has never been good since bad company 2. Don't waste everybody's time DICE.Seriously just cut any and all single player content in the future. The same goes for Co-op content. Focus on multiplayer i.e maps and weapons. That is why people play BF.
They didn't even get to the Eastern Front.
A multi-theater WWII FPS without the Eastern Front. How is that EVEN possible?!?
Gunplay wise, imo Escape from Tarkov has better gunplay. But I do think BFV has the best "arcade" gunplay currently.BFV is a mismanaged product no doubt about that, but people should learn to appreciate what the game does right.
There is literally no contest that BFV has the best gunplay and best movement system of any fps game on the market today. If there is one please tell me, i'd gladly try it out.
I think its gunplay is the one thing that's been widely praised (outside of the TTK issues)BFV is a mismanaged product no doubt about that, but people should learn to appreciate what the game does right.
There is literally no contest that BFV has the best gunplay and best movement system of any fps game on the market today. If there is one please tell me, i'd gladly try it out.
Man they fucked up as making this the big GaaS game about world war 2. Meanwhile Battlefield 4 could be considered as one of the best shooters ever.
You are so right about Warzone. I do have people on my friends list still playing on BFV, but I'm having way too much fun with Call of Duty Warzone. It's giving me that feeling of "anything can happen and I can do anything that I put my mind to" that Battlefield used to give me but was totally missing in BFV.This revisionist history about BF4 is always amusing to watch. DICE LA had to save the game. Nobody was coming to save BF V, and to make matters worse, Warzone is providing those BFesque moments, and for free.
BF V has been a mess from jump. The constant meta adjustment for things that nobody asked for, sparse content, and zero direction or vision probably made this one of the worst entries. I still got some fun out of it, but they have got to come harder for BF6. Drop SP and completely focus on MP, and go all in.
Yup, it's the only one I'm still playing. It's not perfect by any means but it's miles ahead of the newer BF games.bf4 remain the last good battlefield and i don't see that changing any time soon
This revisionist history about BF4 is always amusing to watch. DICE LA had to save the game. Nobody was coming to save BF V, and to make matters worse, Warzone is providing those BFesque moments, and for free.
BF V has been a mess from jump. The constant meta adjustment for things that nobody asked for, sparse content, and zero direction or vision probably made this one of the worst entries. I still got some fun out of it, but they have got to come harder for BF6. Drop SP and completely focus on MP, and go all in.
Best gunplay and movement... of ANY FPS? I don't know maybe they fixed it but trying to mantle the tiniest ledge and then slipping back down is infuriating. Granted that is happening a bit in COD Warzone but not as bad as it was in BFV. So there is candidate one, movement definitely feels better in COD. At least in their states at and near launch. And just thinking about CODMW.. there is no way that the Gunfight mode in that would be anywhere near as satisfying with BFV mechanics slapped on. I'll give BFV better recoil and Battlefield has always done hipfire and SMGs better IMO... but MW's mounting system is much slicker than the god awful mounting that you were supposed to do with LMGs in BFV. Oh and whatever faux dual-rendering zoom COD is doing on the sniper scopes gives sniping a much nicer feel than BFV.BFV is a mismanaged product no doubt about that, but people should learn to appreciate what the game does right.
There is literally no contest that BFV has the best gunplay and best movement system of any fps game on the market today. If there is one please tell me, i'd gladly try it out.
I stand by my assertion that BFV has the best BF gameplay marred by the worst actual product and content in the series. Outside of the awful TTK debacle patches of course.
The worst part is DICE will absolutely take the wrong lessons from this. They'll go back to slow as fuck TTK, random weapon inaccuracy, suppression(ugh), and full bore spotting so all you are doing is shooting doritos all game.
In an ideal world BFV's movement, gunplay, recoil, squad system/revives, attrition, and fortifications would have been in a game that they gave proper support to and with a premium pass for even more content. Instead we got the most half assed product we could.
You know you fucked up when you lose two of the biggest Battlefield diehards on YouTube.I dont know who made the decision but raising the TTK again was one of the greatest dev fuckups I have ever seen. They completely ruined their balancing. Nothing DICE ever did comes close. How can devs be soo stubborn when even pro gamers and huge influencers like JackFrags or Levelcap mention that they dropped the game because of this?
Maybe in terms of infantry id agree....
but vehicular combat? Nah, BF5 is a step back even compared to BF1 in a lot of ways, at least it was when I played back in 2018/early 2019.
I fuckin Adored Battlefield 3, but the state BF4 launched in, was the reason I haven't bought a Battlefield game since. Words cannot describe how excited I was. I remember pre-ordering the PS3 version, pre-ordering Premium, and buying the PS3 to PS4 upgrade thing, and just being extremely excited.EA really needs to stop killing the franchise. BF3 was supposed to be the series returning since 2142 and two years later we got the mess of a game with BF4. Then we got Hardlines soon after that Battlefront, then BF1, Battlefront 2 and finally BFV.
6 games in 7 years. Just pick a theme stick with it for the rest if the gen.You don't see Siege, CS, Fortnite and fighting games getting yearly sequels.
Yeah, no.There is literally no contest that BFV has the best gunplay and best movement system of any fps game on the market today. If there is one please tell me, i'd gladly try it out.
I trust the feedback from long time BF franchise players more than the guy responsible for FIFA's microtransactions. Pretty clear where EA's priorities are these days.There's nothing in their comments that even remotely suggests that they quit because
And in that same Reddit post, you have a former producer saying this:
Metrics provide valuable insight into what works and what doesn't. Why do you think they even collect that data? There is an incredible amount of proof that analyzing the data and research and actioning on the conclusions can be very beneficial.
Again. Just because the implementation is shit does not mean the method doesn't work. And it does work.
Gamers are not good game developers. Their "advice" is often unhelpful comments that you can't exactly decipher as to what the main issue they are having.