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Battlefield V |OT2| Empire of the Soon
- Thread starter iRAWRasaurus
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Christ that's insane. Hopefully the police can handle that.
Stay strong, I hope police does something about those fuckers. I can't believe people can take a game so seriously to do something like that.
I installed BFV to get ready for wake island. Haven't played BFV in more than half a year.
Hopped on the subreddit and that whole place is literally on fire about patch 5.2? Holy shit, the community is fucking PISSED.
Hopped on the subreddit and that whole place is literally on fire about patch 5.2? Holy shit, the community is fucking PISSED.
BFV has been a dumpster fire until the last few months. The only thing people stayed around for previously was the gunplay. So they broke that, then added automatic spotting and enemy healthbars (division style) on top of an extremely poorly tested/glitchy/unbalanced TTK patch.
Hopefully they can cram in some tweaks for the Wake patch, otherwise the FG-42/BAR are still dead.
"Here's an iconic automatic rifle that fires .30-06, it does less damage than a 9mm SMG at range. Enjoy."
Saw Braddock's tweet. Some people are seriously fucked up in their mind. That's just a video game FFS.
You shouldn't even add a smiley to your post, this is simply disgusting and it shouldn't be accepted "as part of the job" by any dev
My sympathies elenarie. People really suck sometimes.
Right now, the people that are good are confidently engaging with the weapons that still have a low TTK. The people that aren't so good are hiding in the spawn. I think the top tier are uncomfortable because they have to engage each other more often and everyone else is literally terrified.
It's pretty staggering how badly Dice fucked up this entire game with the latest patch. Right when I finally have some time to start playing again.
I mean, bravo, some truly impressive shit.
I mean, bravo, some truly impressive shit.
They added bombing reticles to the zero/corsair, so it's childishly easy. My best is a 4 bang 2 Sherman kill with 2 500lb bombs on breakthrough when they were both at the repair station.
No amount of dislike of any entertainment anything warrants death threats. Gamers are such useless fucking shits sometimes.
Sometimes I wonder what size of rock had to fall on someone's head for them to fathom that the first reasonable action when faced with a design decision they dislike is to go for death threats.
I feel like the TTK was done to lure new people to the game and then after the holidays finish they will return it to the prior TTK. Didn't they do that last year?
The change to TTK won't even attract new people. I think that DICE really tried to balance things out and maybe EA pressured with the new players so they added the auto-spot, and were pushed to release the patch early enough to have a bit of time to re-patch it. Or something like that.
I'll just keep playing as Medic or Recon and forget about the other two classes (unless a Tank need to be taken out).
Hey, at least tank gameplay is much better now
I'll just keep playing as Medic or Recon and forget about the other two classes (unless a Tank need to be taken out).
Hey, at least tank gameplay is much better now
That makes no sense because
1. most people don't know what TTK is
2. people who quit the game previously probably aren't following game update announcements on social media
3. new players are enticed by the game's low price and new content, not gameplay tweaks
4. the TTK changes only benefit new/unskilled players in that you die less quickly (which means it will also take longer to get kills), which is only one of many frustrations people can face in BFV
It's so dumb that they felt the need to nerf the effectiveness of so many guns at range. "people don't like getting melted from far away". If that's such a problem, then how about remove fuckin airplanes and tanks from the game. I get killed by those 50x more than I get killed by someone with an SMG over 40 meters away.
It's supposed to be a battlefield, sometimes you get killed and there's nothing you could have done about it.
Planes in this game are still incredibly unfair.
When are they going to do the right thing and remove them? There is absolutely no defense against them. The AA is useless, if you are lucky enough to even be able to use it.
When are they going to do the right thing and remove them? There is absolutely no defense against them. The AA is useless, if you are lucky enough to even be able to use it.
This game series truly needs an overhaul of mechanics, and specifically one that moves from abstract stats to physics based modeling. The game mechanics right now are just getting more and more divorced from their real life analogues, which just doesn't feel good even if it mathematically evens the odds.
What I'm talking about is IMO best described by looking at tanks: right now they're hit point based machines that have stats dictated by balancing: a tiger is much the same as a Japanese light tank. Don't do that, it sucks. Instead give the tanks mass, engine power and armour. Give the guns ballistics where the shot lands somwhere and then you calculate whether it goes through the armour or hits the suspension or whatever. Then do the same for infantry guns: even a single bullet is a dangerous thing that can give you an impairing wound, but guns have lots of physical properties. A rifle is terrible to shoot in close quarters and you won't be doing any quick draws with an LMG.
It's a huge revamp, but I think Dice is doomed to just repeat the terrible balancing and gameplay mechanics issues they experience game after game.
What I'm talking about is IMO best described by looking at tanks: right now they're hit point based machines that have stats dictated by balancing: a tiger is much the same as a Japanese light tank. Don't do that, it sucks. Instead give the tanks mass, engine power and armour. Give the guns ballistics where the shot lands somwhere and then you calculate whether it goes through the armour or hits the suspension or whatever. Then do the same for infantry guns: even a single bullet is a dangerous thing that can give you an impairing wound, but guns have lots of physical properties. A rifle is terrible to shoot in close quarters and you won't be doing any quick draws with an LMG.
It's a huge revamp, but I think Dice is doomed to just repeat the terrible balancing and gameplay mechanics issues they experience game after game.
TBH all of these ideas sound awful (except location specific damage on tanks which I believe already exists in some form) and would in no way address balance. Real wars are unbalanced, how would simulating reality help?
There are sim games out there with that kind of nonsense. They generally max out at a few thousand players because reality isn't what most people want. Battlefield is supposed to be a mainstream, casual, chaotic, fun war game. Dice was on the right track to achieve that until 5.2.
The decision to turn guns like the FG-42 and MG-42 into nerf dart machines instead of just making them harder to control but otherwise powerful gives away what they were going for. I know there's a lot of players out there that struggle with their aim but turning something like the BAR into a paintball gun isn't going to go over well with anyone. Getting blasted through smoke or cover because dorito shooting is back isn't going to help either.
You want Red Ochestra, Post Scriptum, or Hell Let Loose. Battlefield will never and should never be that.
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I was pretty shocked when I tried the FG-42 post patch tbh. Not because of the damage, but because of the recoil. There's just none of it now, it feels like it's less than what SMGs used to be before the patch. It's just wierd, doesn't match the visual or audio feedback at all. Really dislike what they did to the recoil in general.
Physics based does not mean simulation game (except on the obvious semantic level). It's simply a more robust framework for mechanics than hitpoints. It wouldn't make the game any more difficult or less chaotic, just the mechanics more relatable and explicit (because of the universality of the framework).
Also the current BF is not casual friendly in the slightest. It's just considered such by association because it's a big brand with lots of marketing.
Edit: and as far as balancing, right now they're doing that because there's nothing else to measure things by. The effects of guns, explosions and such vary almost arbitrarily now. Even if you achieve something of a balance the weapons are still going to feel bad and people will complain. I'm quite certain the lower ttk was well received precisely because it made everything feel more powerful and not conflict quite so much with the audiovisual onslaught of the killing machines in the game.
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From a new player's perspective (but series vet) I think the lack of recoil is little surprising, used to guns having a real good kick in BF - made it hard to get used to at first because of the differences from prior games in the series.
Is it a bad thing overall? Not entirely sure yet, but it does hurt the character of the individual weapons a little bit I think.
Oh for fuck sake DICE, why do you do this shit? We've been trough this, aim slowdown works for every single multiplayer shooter ever, and it worked in bfv for a year also.
Why do you guy's want to cater to the noobs so much? it just pushes me and your regular players away.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefiel...idence_of_aim_assist_zoom_snap_or_aim_assist/
Why do you guy's want to cater to the noobs so much? it just pushes me and your regular players away.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Battlefiel...idence_of_aim_assist_zoom_snap_or_aim_assist/
No clue, will reinstall but this was a week ago or more.
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Breakthrough on Wake Island severely needs more defensive options for the japanese team.
Also, seriously, please do something about towable weapons. They are bulky, annoying and in the end useless to have. This map is a great example, on the second sector they spawn 2 tow cannons for the Japanese team to use, problem is that those are stashed between barracks overlooking nothing and they require to be towed into position, which is in itself a idiotically massive hassle to do, so they are just left there often. They need to have a sort of "slow manual push" option so they can be rotated or moved slightly from their position if they end up for example looking upward or too much down due to a slope.
Also, seriously, please do something about towable weapons. They are bulky, annoying and in the end useless to have. This map is a great example, on the second sector they spawn 2 tow cannons for the Japanese team to use, problem is that those are stashed between barracks overlooking nothing and they require to be towed into position, which is in itself a idiotically massive hassle to do, so they are just left there often. They need to have a sort of "slow manual push" option so they can be rotated or moved slightly from their position if they end up for example looking upward or too much down due to a slope.
Guess I can finally move on. The ttk, snap on aim assist in MULTIPLAYER. I can't deal with this again. Idk who is making these dumb desisions at dice but you are pushing your loyal fans away.
Using snap aiming or aim assist has no bearing on whether someone is a "loyal fan" or not. The snap aiming has big disadvantages too, namely that it slows down your reaction time.
This game has gone to the point where its pathetically bad. My favourite franchise plummeted to it being non existant in my play time. No surprise really considering how bad Battlefield 1 was, didnt think that could be topped but here we are.
Whoever is calling the shots for this franchise for the last two entries needs to move on they are clearly not within their element at the moment.
Whoever is calling the shots for this franchise for the last two entries needs to move on they are clearly not within their element at the moment.
I'm talking personally, it gets abused by good players constantly. Look up some videos on YouTube.
How in the hell it slows down your reaction time?
Anything that takes aiming control away from you slows down your reaction time.
It doesn't, it puts your aim automatically on the head/body. It doesn't slow down anything.
played a bunch with a buddy last night and we were both angry at how much the changes have wrecked the game.
Neither of us are very good, so the ttk changes helped us to survive longer but
1) everyone is playing sniper. it actually seems like there are 50% playing recon until you get down to the final sector
2) machine guns, both LMG and MMGs are now worthless. Recoil seems worse and you wont get enough hits in to kill someone before they make it to cover
3) assault rifles don't seem very good anymore, either. I had 4 shots to kill someone with the Gewher 43 last night and they weren't very far away.
4) automatic weapons only seem 'good' at extremely close range
The whole experience was annoying and frustrating. I hope DICE is listening (but i know they aren't).
Neither of us are very good, so the ttk changes helped us to survive longer but
1) everyone is playing sniper. it actually seems like there are 50% playing recon until you get down to the final sector
2) machine guns, both LMG and MMGs are now worthless. Recoil seems worse and you wont get enough hits in to kill someone before they make it to cover
3) assault rifles don't seem very good anymore, either. I had 4 shots to kill someone with the Gewher 43 last night and they weren't very far away.
4) automatic weapons only seem 'good' at extremely close range
The whole experience was annoying and frustrating. I hope DICE is listening (but i know they aren't).
This sounds like BS because Wake Island is not in the game yet. It comes out today.
I'm not sure what needed such drastic change about it. The gunplay was the best they've ever had imo.
