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Battlefield V |OT| Band of Brothers and Sisters
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Besides the Sturmtigers, the patch is good.
There are a lot of good QoL changes. It's easier to revive as medic and to see critically injured players. Friendly flares have radiuses now, so you can see where they are at. There are a ton of other little things that really help the player experience.
I know it's the honeymoon phase, but Al-Sundan is a good map. It actually feels like a BF map. I'd say it's the best post launch map so far, hell it's probably one of the best, if not the best map in the game.
There are a lot of good QoL changes. It's easier to revive as medic and to see critically injured players. Friendly flares have radiuses now, so you can see where they are at. There are a ton of other little things that really help the player experience.
I know it's the honeymoon phase, but Al-Sundan is a good map. It actually feels like a BF map. I'd say it's the best post launch map so far, hell it's probably one of the best, if not the best map in the game.
It wouldn't be a DICE patch without a weird bug.
elenarie, Breakthrough attacking on Al- Sundan has British. The reinforcements call in Sturmtigers. I called in an AT halftrack and it gave me a Sturmtiger. Everyone has Sturmtigers, lol.
It's free real sturmtigers then
I only hope that fixing it doesn't cause the return of the glitch that had the map delayed
It would be cool to know what really happened to cause such a massive problem, but I guess you aren't allowed to speak those things (you and the rest of the team)
Lol same here. I've been wanting to see how much it shreds infantry since I saw the original leak video showing it off.
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I imagine it'll do heavy damage against aircraft and infantry. Moderate damage against light vehicles and minimal to zero damage against tanks.
It'll be interesting how they balance it. Previous titles always had lockon AA launchers, so you didn't have to worry about players using it like an AT weapon.
Also, I think it should have been given to Support rather than Assault. I mean that's the whole role of Support. You choose between AT support (AT pistol or mines) or AA support (Flieger). Plus Assault already has enough gadgets. Maybe they are afraid of Support players just spamming it since they have an ammo crate.
It'll be interesting how they balance it. Previous titles always had lockon AA launchers, so you didn't have to worry about players using it like an AT weapon.
Also, I think it should have been given to Support rather than Assault. I mean that's the whole role of Support. You choose between AT support (AT pistol or mines) or AA support (Flieger). Plus Assault already has enough gadgets. Maybe they are afraid of Support players just spamming it since they have an ammo crate.
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Surely itll be funnier than the Piat. If it can damage planes, it should shred people as well
Ive gotten some funny kills with the Piat by guessing the angle and getting them by surprise lol
The minimap shows where the Piat will hit if you expand it while aiming the Piat.
Problem with the minimap is it doesn't account for elevation. So a lot of it is just luck.
The mini map doesnt count everything so it might just hit a wall and sometines the cursor doesnt show up. Its easier for me to just guess and ive been doing well
New map is great fun, we really need more consistent map updates like this.
Op Underground is also shaping up to be promising as it seems less like the stupid clusterfuck of Metro.
And then... at least 3 maps in Pacific before 2020 right?
In between all that, we desperately need fresh gameplay: new combat roles ffs (this hasnt been touched since launch), new gadgets (I desperately want more Anti Vehicle options for other classes like Support), class balancing (can we please nerf Assault's effectiveness with gadgets + weapons, they are too well rounded).
And when will we see content like silencers/suppressors.
Op Underground is also shaping up to be promising as it seems less like the stupid clusterfuck of Metro.
And then... at least 3 maps in Pacific before 2020 right?
In between all that, we desperately need fresh gameplay: new combat roles ffs (this hasnt been touched since launch), new gadgets (I desperately want more Anti Vehicle options for other classes like Support), class balancing (can we please nerf Assault's effectiveness with gadgets + weapons, they are too well rounded).
And when will we see content like silencers/suppressors.
Now that I played it for a while, Al Sundan (Conquest) is a slow map, the slowest in the game. What do I mean by slow? There is a lot of downtime and fights are sporadic.
The map reminds me of El Alamein. Both the good and bad.
The map reminds me of El Alamein. Both the good and bad.
I like the map, but there are some drastic frame rate drops at times on the base xbox. I wonder if trying to sort that has caused the delay.
Could do without having to play Breakthrough, too many players are determined not to get on the objective, probably because it's new and brought a lot of players back.
Could do without having to play Breakthrough, too many players are determined not to get on the objective, probably because it's new and brought a lot of players back.
Yep same with TDM/SQ on Al Sundan since it was available. There's something fishy going on with that map. It's probably not as straightforward as it seems to convert a SP map into a MP map.
Al Sundan is a great conquest map. I think that you can enjoy it whatever is your prefered kit or vehicle.
If we had this in feb/march and they were able to give us something similar every 2 or 3 months, their situation would have been much different than today. Good maps can make you forget many bugs and miscommunication, BF4 is the perfect proof of that...
If we had this in feb/march and they were able to give us something similar every 2 or 3 months, their situation would have been much different than today. Good maps can make you forget many bugs and miscommunication, BF4 is the perfect proof of that...
Only had the chance to play 3 matches: BT - CQ - BT
First match, the team didn't push. It stood sniping or tank sniping, with not much support offering. Hated it.
Second match, CQ, same team, didn't push objectives, we got wrecked.
Third batch BT, team got scrambled and balanced, I was again in the attacking team, and we had a HARD time taking objectives, but we won the match. Incredibly fun game. Loved it.
So yeah, I think it's really good, we only need mid-match balancing.
Cool!
I think that a good way of doing a rotation featuring a new map would be alternating.
For example:
Al Sundan CQ - Rotterdam CQ - Al Sundan BT - Arras BT - Devastation CQ - Al Sundan BT
That way we can have a better grip of the map without getting tired by repetition
First match, the team didn't push. It stood sniping or tank sniping, with not much support offering. Hated it.
Second match, CQ, same team, didn't push objectives, we got wrecked.
Third batch BT, team got scrambled and balanced, I was again in the attacking team, and we had a HARD time taking objectives, but we won the match. Incredibly fun game. Loved it.
So yeah, I think it's really good, we only need mid-match balancing.
Cool!
I think that a good way of doing a rotation featuring a new map would be alternating.
For example:
Al Sundan CQ - Rotterdam CQ - Al Sundan BT - Arras BT - Devastation CQ - Al Sundan BT
That way we can have a better grip of the map without getting tired by repetition
Purely selfish demand : will you add it to the Bombastic Fantastic playlist and make this playlist permanent at some point ? BF with only large maps and a bit of breakthrough in it is clearly my go-to playlist when it's available. It would be so great to make it permanent :)
Terrible. Awful. Worst map ever.
No idea! I've been away from home for a couple of days, so I'm looking forward to giving it a proper go over the weekend. I'm hearing it's more traditional Conquest Large than most, and that makes me happy.
Map is amazing. One of the best in the game. If DICE can keep pumping maps of this quality than there might be hope for BFV :D
Pretty cool supports fortification tool turns into a repair tool now, is that new? I always wanted that in BF1 when they took away repair tools from anti-take classes
Also, is there a way to set the spawning screen to the map overlay instead of the dumb squad cams?
Pretty cool supports fortification tool turns into a repair tool now, is that new? I always wanted that in BF1 when they took away repair tools from anti-take classes
Also, is there a way to set the spawning screen to the map overlay instead of the dumb squad cams?
It was always like that or did you never repair anything as a support before now?
Only played a couple matches last night, but New map feels like a real BF map to me so far and I loved it. Some of the QoL changes are really great too. Love that we can see teammate spitting flare radius. Super helpful when attacking objectives. People were actually reviving too. Not sure if that is due to the revive changes or if it was just incidental, but it sure was nice. Looks like DICE starting to get their mojo back. Keep the momentum going!
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It's a cool map for Breakthrough.
But for someone like me who's not a big fan of Conquest to begin with, it feels way too big. The teams are stretched out too much for my liking and it mostly devolves in sporadic small skirmishes. Wich is something i don't like.
I think the reason i hate BR games modes so much i that i don't like small "1 on 1" skirmishes stuff. I need bombastic chaos where i can run and gun in the middle of explosions. That's where i feel at ease and get good scores. I need to "get in the zone" so to speak. And maps like Al Sundan are definitely not made for me regarding Conquest. Metro should be better for this.
But still, it's cool to finally have something new to play with.
But for someone like me who's not a big fan of Conquest to begin with, it feels way too big. The teams are stretched out too much for my liking and it mostly devolves in sporadic small skirmishes. Wich is something i don't like.
I think the reason i hate BR games modes so much i that i don't like small "1 on 1" skirmishes stuff. I need bombastic chaos where i can run and gun in the middle of explosions. That's where i feel at ease and get good scores. I need to "get in the zone" so to speak. And maps like Al Sundan are definitely not made for me regarding Conquest. Metro should be better for this.
But still, it's cool to finally have something new to play with.
you really like to press buttons on friday haha. fire and forget!
It's depressing to read most of the stuff online, but people have opinions, so I can't hold that against them. Today however, I saw a beautifully done summary of the work that the team has put in over the last few months towards what's coming next, and I couldn't be prouder.
The Drilling is the best weapon ever. :P
We don't do that enough! :D Some parts of the game can be serviced much easily nowadays so the risk of breaking something is very minimal and reverting just takes a button or two. The multiplayer / join screens are one example, we've managed to make all of that dynamic so no updates are needed on the clients to do changes to those screens, everything is backend driven.
The Drilling is the best weapon ever. :P
We don't do that enough! :D Some parts of the game can be serviced much easily nowadays so the risk of breaking something is very minimal and reverting just takes a button or two. The multiplayer / join screens are one example, we've managed to make all of that dynamic so no updates are needed on the clients to do changes to those screens, everything is backend driven.
I assume you mean secret juicy stuff that you can't share yet?
Al Sudan is really damn good, except when you are in a Tiger getting sniped by an Archer that zeroed you on their first hit because the map funnels tanks into killzones.
I don't know what you're talking about, but let me tell you that Al Sundan is exactly the map BFV needed. I wish you and your team the best, and to all of us, you included, that the bad streak ends by now
I don't have all the stats off the top of my head, but here's an overview, I bolded the weapons worth trying.
Assault:
Sturmgewher 1-5: It's the starter AR. It's pretty much just a budget StG 44. It gets the job done, but you'll want to upgrade to some of the later weapons.
Gewehr 43: Three shot kill with a decent RoF. You'll want to take the hip fire skills and drop mag to get the most out of it.
M1A1 Carbine: This is a semi auto that you can treat like an AR. Very spammable.
M1907 SF: A must pick for close range and close-medium. It has the fastest TTK out of all the assault weapons.
Turner SMLE: A well rounded semi auto. It doesn't have the same punch as the G43 (it's a four shot kill), but it makes up for it in RoF, mag size, accuracy.
StG 44: The most used AR. It's extremely versatile. A well-rounded AR.
Selb 1916: Three shot kill with a big mag and high accuracy; however, it suffers from the slowest RoF and terrible hip fire. I'd recommend the G43 over it.
Gewehr 1-5: A spammable semi auto with the largest mag. It's a cross between the M1A1 and Turner.
Ag m/42: A more accurate and controllable version of the M1A1, however, it has a smaller magazine.
Ribeyrolles 1918: This is an AR that you treat like a semi auto. However, you're better off going with a semi auto as long as you can control them.
MAS 44: An easier version of the Tuner SMLE, but with a smaller magazine. Learn to use the Turner.
Breda M1935 PG: The only burst fire weapon in the game. Great for closeish and medium range. It's next to useless for long range unless you put it on semi auto.
Karabin 1938M: A more accurate and controllable version of the G43, but it suffers from poor hip fire and long reload times. Use the G43.
Medic:
STEN: Starter smg and the worst in the game. You'll want to move on from it.
Suomi: It has the fastest TTK, but also the most recoil out of the smgs.
MP40: A better version of the STEN.
MP28: A weird hybrid. You're better of going the Suomi or M1928A1.
EMP: Similar to the MP40, but it has a higher RoF, while having less accuracy and control.
MP34: A smg designed for longer ranges. However, the Zk-383 outperforms it.
Commando Carbine: One of the bolt actions for medic. It has some weird accuracy and control, I'd recommend the M28 con Tromboncino before it.
M1928A1: Slightly less RoF (it kills in one less frame) than the Sumoi. However, it has much better controllability.
Zk-383: The most well rounded smg. You can spec it to be an all-around smg or you can spec it for longer ranges.
M28 con Tromboncino: Has decent hip fire and a grenade launcher. If you're going to use a bolt, use this one.
MAB 38: A well rounded smg, useful in most situations.
Support:
KE7: It's a decent starter weapon, however, there are LMGs the perform roles better.
Bren Gun: The most accurate and controllable full auto in the game. It destroys at medium and long ranges. However, it has subpar hip fire and a low RoF.
Lewis Gun: The most used LMG. It's the most versatile and well rounded out of the LMGs.
FG-42: LMG that you want to treat like an AR. Made for close and medium ranges.
LS/26: Similar to the FG-42, but it's more controllable and has a slightly less RoF.
I'm not going to go over the MMGs and shotguns. They play similar and you just use the one you feel comfortable with.
Recon:
P08 Carbine: Pick if you want to play aggressively.
I'm not going to go over bolt action and self-loading rifles. Again, they all play extremely similar and you just pick the one you're most comfortable with.
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My first impressions of Al Sundan on Conquest are positive. I've only played one round though so it'll take time for me to get a feel for the map's flow and whether or not the capture points are balanced and produce organic front lines, but the topography is diverse enough to compartmentalise encounters and disrupt line-of-site between most capture points, and the longer stretches of terrain between points of interest reduce the frequency of encounters, playing to the strengths of the damage/accuracy model and use of vehicles.
Battlefield V is always going to have fundamental balance issues by virtue of how classes, weapons, and vehicles have been designed. But Al Sundan seems pretty good so far.
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Battlefield V is always going to have fundamental balance issues by virtue of how classes, weapons, and vehicles have been designed. But Al Sundan seems pretty good so far.
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