So we're turning a coincidence into something way bigger than it actually is? *rolls eyes*
The name was found in leaks weeks ago, people warned them and they did nothing. It's kinda bad.
And they could change his name without issue, nobody is ever saying his name, he's the "panthom of the opera dude" and that's it.
Why would it be intentional? haahahaaa. How do some of you guys live day to day.
Nah I from what we've seen the devs are fantastic people.Perhaps some Dudebro developer thought it was fun and no one would recognize it?
Obviously nobody from EA or the developers googled the name after somebody came up with it. I mean they sell a Nazi DLC, how low can one go in greed for money?
Why would it be intentional? haahahaaa. How do some of you guys live day to day.
You understand websites get paid for acting concerned, you don't.
The wikipedia page literally says there's even a street named after him. Stop excusing simple incompetence as "just as a coincidence". Finding out if this name is problematic to use as name of a nazi takes a few minutes at most, even if you're not German. And it was somebodys paid job to do that.You've missed the point. If someone at Dice was to ask "Is Wilhelm Franke the name of any significant historical figure?" then a "simple google search" would suggest that the answer is "no".
The wikipedia page is the only thing I could find on this specific Wilhelm Franke. Searching on the actual Wikipedia site doesn't bring up anything at all.
The wikipedia page literally says there's even a street named after him. Stop excusing simple incompetence as "just as a coincidence". Finding out if this name is problematic to use as name of a nazi takes a few minutes at most, even if you're not German. And it was somebodys paid job to do that.
But there's no new real-life Nazi running around, is my point. Because creating those seems to be a popular past-time among online services.They did do that. Him being dead is besides the point. This is annoying because I remember EA talking up a lot about being historically accurate.
What I want to know is if the people tripping over themselves to criticize Dice for historical inaccuracies over women in their games are now defending this obvious historical inaccuracy.
These shitheads are generally in the BF community itself. I mean just look at the comments of the other released female character Hanna Delacroix:
Fucking yikes. If anyone ever wants to tell me most of the negative reception doesn't come from a loud incel minority then I don't know what to say.
I bought Hannah and play exclusively girls in the game for the specific purpose of pissing those idiots off when i kill them (and it works very well might i add).
The developers have lost their credibility of wanting to be "true to history" and "treating history with respect", as in interviews and the social networks was stressed again and again.
I bought Hannah and play exclusively girls in the game for the specific purpose of pissing those idiots off when i kill them (and it works very well might i add).
Regardless of how Nazi General Wilhelm Franke got his name, one thing is for sure: The developers have lost their credibility of wanting to be "true to history" and "treating history with respect", as in interviews and the social networks was stressed again and again.
No, NSDAP party membership was always voluntary, even until the end of the war, though if you were belonging to certain stratas of German/Austrian society, like the upper class, it was often expected or brought serious benefits over those that didn't join, especially if you wanted to e.g. get business deals with the government (or didn't want the political decision makers to raise an eyebrow every time your lack of NSDAP membership was mentioned). To be precise members of the Wehrmacht were actually FORBIDDEN to join any political party (a leftover from the Weimar constitution) until 1944 AFAIR, when the restriction was lifted by Hitler. It's the reason why SS divisions not only weren't part of the Wehrmacht, but also so favored when it came to prestige and always getting the best equipment first, because the SS was made up of NSDAP party members, even if SS units often performed well below regular army units (especially early in the war).Wait, I could be wrong here, but isn't the term "nazi general" kinda dumb and wrong? The Wehrmacht was not dissolved and reorganized into a nazi-army, like every modern army every Wehrmacht-soldier had to pledge allegiance to the Reichs-chancellor/ president (Hitler combined both positions). Officially every German had to enter the NSDAP after Hitler fully took over, but that doesn't make every general automatically a nazi-general.
Btw: Dr. Mengel in EDF Iron Rain is a far more problematic coice.
Seriously. If we would go that fictional joker/wild card route we could have any (sick) shit in a game and shrug it off with "iT iS jUsT fiCtiOn, bRo!". But we don't and most of Era haven't.
"The aforementioned Elite, Wilhelm Franke, whose name we're changing is not a Nazi, but a German solider similar to ones we already have in the game. InBattlefield V, we're not making any political statements in relation to the real life events of WW2 and there are no swastikas in the game."
??????EA responded and is changing the name, which is a good move.
The response itself has some stuff I can only shake my head at though:
Not a nazi, just a German officer in WW2. Also there's no politics at all in our game about WW2, lol.
Yeah I edited my post. Fuck this lol.Not a nazi, just a German officer in WW2. Also there's no politics at all in our game about WW2, lol.
What are you even talking aboutNobody actually believes the "handling topic with care" PR speak, do they?
We're talking about a game where you do drive-bys with throwing knives while on skis. (And I'm not talking about multiplayer sandbox shenanigans, that's in the single player story.)
I guess this is how they justify the removal of any swastikas. All the German soldiers aren't actually NazisEA responded and is changing the name, which is a good move.
The response itself has some stuff I can only shake my head at though:
"He isn't actually a nazi!"
Oh fuck off.
Forget loot boxes and all that shit. The thing I'm ACTUALLY tired of in video games right now is developers being to spineless to actually say anything and instead pulling out the "we don't have politics!" card anytime their feet get held to the fire over stupid as fuck decisions.
But it's not like they needed to justify it is what is confusing meI guess this is how they justify the removal of any swastikas. All the German soldiers aren't actually Nazis
Yeah I gotta wonder why the other stuff was even necessary.
This is one way to normalize/dilute the war crimes committed by Nazi Germany during WW2.The response itself has some stuff I can only shake my head at though:
I guess this is how they justify the removal of any swastikas. All the German soldiers aren't actually Nazis
It's definitely a strange call. They model weapons and tanks down the tiniest detail but then pretend the Germans in the game aren't Nazis. It feels like a sanitization of the actual conflictBut it's not like they needed to justify it is what is confusing me
In future games they don't even have to remove swastikas anymore, as those are allowed in games sold in Germany now
They did do that. Him being dead is besides the point. This is annoying because I remember EA talking up a lot about being historically accurate.
It's a pretty uncomplicated post mate, which part is causing you difficulties?
Your post has nothing to do with the topic and it doesn't even make sense when you think about it.It's a pretty uncomplicated post mate, which part is causing you difficulties?
Cool. Thank you for this vital information.Your post has nothing to do with the topic and it doesn't even make sense when you think about it.
A promotional video depicts Franke as a Nazi badass, and he's purchasable as an "elite" cosmetic skin for roughly $10 USD worth of virtual money. There are three other elites for players to choose from to spice up their in-game avatars: two allied fighters, and another Nazi, the "cold, calculated" Ernst Schubert.
On one hand, microtransactions are part of how games like Battlefield V make money nowadays, and it would be a bit odd to only sell Allied skins because the game forces players to alternately fight on both sides. On the other hand, there's something deeply and undeniably off-putting about making Nazis look like cool and desirable characters for a profit.
It's bizarre, because Battlefield V has otherwise gone to some lengths to sap most of the Nazism out of WWII. You won't spot a swastika in the game, and terms like "Hitler" and "Nazi" are banned in chat. Developer DICE has even added women and people of colour to both the Allied and Nazi fighting factions in the name of inclusivity and diversity. All of these decisions inspired vitriol from reactionary video gamers.
One could be forgiven for presuming that these steps meant that Battlefield V was doing its best to work within the limitations of the WWII shooter genre to avoid glorifying Nazis or their ideology. The Wilhelm Franke avatar, besides being an affront to the real-life man, is the exact opposite of whatever restraint DICE might have been going for with their in-game Nazis. Its entire purpose is to entice players to spend money on stepping into Franke's jackboots.