This is for sure gonna crush my dad. He looks forward to the battlefield campaigns each time since he can't keep up in multiplayer (he's been gaming for so many years but still can only move and look in one direction. He's gotta stop to turn and look haha). Damn. Hopefully they try campaigns again sometime, there's definitely a chunk of people that enjoy it.
Nice just watched. Hope its good!jackfrag's vid got some pretty juicy details, i suggest giving it a watch. being able to change weapon attachments while already deployed, on the ground, seems pretty big.
Pay the same amount for less game. It's never fun, but it's the way it's going to keep going so long as people keep accepting it. Stop supporting those who do it, keep supporting those who try to provide a more complete package.
Nothing wrong with a multiplayer only game being full price btw, for those who love multiplayer, it's tremendous value still. It just sucks to see games that once offered more shed features to squeeze just a bit more profit out. This kind of greedy grasping always seems to come from the companies that already make billions upon billions, while smaller studios manage to put out much more complete experiences with a fraction of the resources...all while treating their employees a bit less shittily.
The Simpsons, way ahead of their time yet again.
I think he prefers the cinematic and scripted bits, but if fighting against AI is an option in this then that might actually be a good fit!Perhaps playing against AIs may be a good fit for him? Or is he more after cinematic / scripted experiences?
im not altering my playstyle and/or dipping into game modes i have no interest in playing just to satisfy some bullshit "achievements" for cosmetics.
i'm reading here it also only has seven maps at launch, lmao. if that is true then god damn they are ballsy
People are fine with $70 games with a 15 hour single player mode and NO multiplayer at all, but they are upset that a multiplayer game that could potentially offer hundreds of hours worth of fun doesn't have a single player campaign?
Why is single player valued so much higher than multiplayer?
I do think it kinda sucks that you have to pay for season/battle pass type crap though.
It's been like this since Titanfall. How dare a game be multiplayer only and cost $60? Now let me go back to my 5 hour single player game.People are fine with $70 games with a 15 hour single player mode and NO multiplayer at all, but they are upset that a multiplayer game that could potentially offer hundreds of hours worth of fun doesn't have a single player campaign?
Why is single player valued so much higher than multiplayer?
I do think it kinda sucks that you have to pay for season/battle pass type crap though.
What free to play games are you talking about? Do they look as good as battlefield? Have as many maps at launch? Give examplesAnd what about the other countless F2P multiplayer games out there that use the same model and don't charge $70 just to get in? Or are we running with the idea that somehow Battlefield is above all these games?
Oh yeah, they really messed up big time by not channeling tons of resources towards some short forgettable campaign at the expense of the mode that gets the vast majority of the players and their playtime
Pay the same amount for less game. It's never fun, but it's the way it's going to keep going so long as people keep accepting it. Stop supporting those who do it, keep supporting those who try to provide a more complete package.
Nothing wrong with a multiplayer only game being full price btw, for those who love multiplayer, it's tremendous value still. It just sucks to see games that once offered more shed features to squeeze just a bit more profit out. This kind of greedy grasping always seems to come from the companies that already make billions upon billions, while smaller studios manage to put out much more complete experiences with a fraction of the resources...all while treating their employees a bit less shittily.
Based upon the recent videos, the US and Russia are in a war but everyone else is basically nonpats, so you just fight for a side. Not sure if BF is going to do various factions fighting.
I know Era heavily skews single-player, probably due to it being a Sony leaning site, but come on.
Why does not having a campaign mean you can't charge full price? MP only games have to be cheaper or F2P?
Battlefield is the very definition of AAA next gen experience. If any MP only game can ask for full price, it's Battlefield.
no kidding. Im really happy with this return. If ppl want they can still play bots only and still get progresssionI can tell a lot of people in this thread started with Battlefield 3.
Ok, then don't buy them? They're only for cosmetics.I am NOT feeling Battlepasses after COD... I bought one..once. And I regret it. Playing it is like a second job for little reward.
Oh yeah, they really messed up big time by not channeling tons of resources towards some short forgettable campaign at the expense of the mode that gets the vast majority of the players and their playtime
One of these trophies takes like 5 hours and the other does notOnly because the quality of the campaign's have seen a decline. If they just made a better campaign, more people would play, complete and appreciate it.
For example, I actually quite enjoyed Battlefield 4's campaign, I remember it was a visual and audio spectacle too. Clearly many agreed, since according to online trophy data, 39% of people completed the campaign, whilst 37% of people reached rank 25 in multiplayer.
God damn, just call the developers lazy and eat the ban at this point.What's impressive about that? DICE are most likely procedurally generating a fuck ton of those maps anyway. But yeah anything to justify a full price tag for 7 maps LMAO marketing BS as it's finest.
Why don't people have this much outrage when Games don't have Bots?!
Which this game does BTW...
Ok well that's promising news. I'm definitely a lot more interested now, thanks.I should add VG247 confirmed this game will have AI bots. Apparently they even tie into PVP progression.
This argument always comes down to the fundamental console/PC split of not being okay with a $70 game that can "die' one day when the servers are shut down. Having bots (and maybe even local LAN, does BF do that these days?) changes that a bit. I'd feel a lot better if it had private servers though. I don't know if recent BF games have them but last I checked you can still find Bad Company 2 servers.
The real issue today though is that you got Warzone, upcoming Halo MP, Fortnite, CS, and EA's own Apex all F2P.
Yeah, the story above confirms 64v64 offline bots. Even co-op against bots.
"Procedurally Generated". Man, I had no idea you worked at DICE on the map! You should really get verified by the staff so we know ahead of time! /sWhat's impressive about that? DICE are most likely procedurally generating a fuck ton of those maps anyway. But yeah anything to justify a full price tag for 7 maps LMAO marketing BS as it's finest.
One of these trophies takes like 5 hours and the other does not
If you're able to "procedurally generate" high-quality multiplayer maps then every big publisher in the world is going to pay you BIG bucks. If not then you're talking shit.What's impressive about that? DICE are most likely procedurally generating a fuck ton of those maps anyway. But yeah anything to justify a full price tag for 7 maps LMAO marketing BS as it's finest.
Mostly everyone here keep forgetting that their direct competitor has both MP, SP and co-op. They deliver it every year(excluding BO4) and yet DICE who's one of the biggest developers in the world, with a publisher who's worth more then 40 billion USD and earns billions is incapable to deliver on a complete package with more development time then a yearly Call of Duty game.
DICE has multiple studios helping them and yet they still need the resources to develop only the MP portion when COD studios are in the same position yet keep delivering every(almost) year.
What's impressive about that? DICE are most likely procedurally generating a fuck ton of those maps anyway. But yeah anything to justify a full price tag for 7 maps LMAO marketing BS as it's finest.
What's impressive about that? DICE are most likely procedurally generating a fuck ton of those maps anyway. But yeah anything to justify a full price tag for 7 maps LMAO marketing BS as it's finest.