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bitcloudrzr

Member
May 31, 2018
13,903
Yeah unfortunately mil sim games attract a certain breed of audience.
What happens when you BF like a milsim:

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HiLife

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
39,616
Are specialists paid for, or do you use in game currency? I see that the season pass comes with them. Or is it an early access thing?
 

Rygar 8Bit

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,853
Site-15
BF has always been an arcade shooter. It's just shooters already draw in a type of person and then you throw real world military into it and it draws even more of those chuds. What's real bad is when it's a milsim like Arma then you got a real problem, amplified more if it's a WW2 milsim.
 

Coolluck

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,399

At least they are taking a stance on it. I remember a few Battlefield subreddits becoming alt right playgrounds during Battlefield V and zero being done about it.

A mod said they didn't want to be the pronoun police which would make sense for folks who just straight up didn't read the tweet reply on the subject but that's just emboldened assholes to say shit like "I'm going to say her and so will all of my friends". Some skulls need to be cracked a little harder to get the message across.
 

HylianSeven

Shin Megami TC - Community Resetter
Member
Oct 25, 2017
19,028
Milsim communities are often more fractured than something like BF, just because the major milsim on the market, Arma, has so many different game modes with it's scenario editor. You have your big ones like King of the Hill, Wasteland, and [insert map here] Life, some that occasionally crop up that are popular like Exile. A lot of people just play with their groups of friends though, usually setting up a server with a PvAI mission, or sometimes PvP missions.

You do see a ton of people going around repeating the n-word in the popular modes like King of the Hill, Wasteland, and the Life modes, but the other gametypes it really depends on the community surrounding those. I'd say in the popular game modes, yeah the community is probably worse. I don't think you can paint milsim communities with a broad brush though since they're so fractured given the fact there's so many modes and missions and mods.

BF, especially modern BF, is not a milsim and I'd be surprised to see people playing it like one. It's not trying to be one and that's perfectly fine. The game is fun this way. There were mods like BF2's Project Reality that were more milsim-y, but that was also a mod.
 

bitcloudrzr

Member
May 31, 2018
13,903
Are specialists paid for, or do you use in game currency? I see that the season pass comes with them. Or is it an early access thing?
BF1 and BFV use in-game only currency to unlock weapons, attachments, and gadgets, skins were through assignments or paid for. The Battlepass was free in BFV and it unlocked skins for the most part, only two pistols were ever included in that system. DLC guns and gadgets were unlocked with weekly assignments for BFV.
 

ScoutDave

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,297
Milsim communities are often more fractured than something like BF, just because the major milsim on the market, Arma, has so many different game modes with it's scenario editor. You have your big ones like King of the Hill, Wasteland, and [insert map here] Life, some that occasionally crop up that are popular like Exile. A lot of people just play with their groups of friends though, usually setting up a server with a PvAI mission, or sometimes PvP missions.

You do see a ton of people going around repeating the n-word in the popular modes like King of the Hill, Wasteland, and the Life modes, but the other gametypes it really depends on the community surrounding those. I'd say in the popular game modes, yeah the community is probably worse. I don't think you can paint milsim communities with a broad brush though since they're so fractured given the fact there's so many modes and missions and mods.

BF, especially modern BF, is not a milsim and I'd be surprised to see people playing it like one. It's not trying to be one and that's perfectly fine. The game is fun this way. There were mods like BF2's Project Reality that were more milsim-y, but that was also a mod.

Any military shooter will attract the milsim crowd. When i was mod for the Ghost Recon community, i seen/dealt with quite a few. I would see them talk all the time about their plans in games and such.
 

Stoney Mason

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,918
Any military shooter will attract the milsim crowd. When i was mod for the Ghost Recon community, i seen/dealt with quite a few. I would see them talk all the time about their plans in games and such.
As you are saying any of these military power shooters attracts an abundance of people who are right leaning. Some of them are just "normal" conservative types who don't bother other people but a lot of them are far right types who bring all the agendas that label brings. It is what it is. If you play these games you know what you are getting into ahead of time. The right tilting portion of the Battlefield community has increased since all the stuff that happened in Battlefield V. Fortunately my experience when actually playing the franchise isn't as bad as you would expect based on the online communities. But those experience vary from person to person I'm sure. In other words, the community isn't Call of Duty bad yet but there are plenty of bad actors in it.
 

ajoshi

Member
Sep 11, 2021
2,030

At least they are taking a stance on it. I remember a few Battlefield subreddits becoming alt right playgrounds during Battlefield V and zero being done about it.

The irony of the Epic Gamer backlash against women in BFV is that if you log in nowadays, there is a trend of people with SS clan tags playing deliberate German/Japanese waifu officers. See quite a few of them on the Xbox ecosystem. No easy way to report the clan tags, I figured SS would be banned as a clan abbreviation in a fucking WW2 game lol.
 

Stoney Mason

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,918
Frankly I'm not surprised. I pretty much had to unsubscribe from all Battlefield subreddits after the whole BFV thing. All them were cesspools. Emberassing
I did also. Battlefield 2042 is the only one I occasionally visit now. They seem the "best" of the lot, although I don't visit the others any more so I wouldn't know.
 
Jan 10, 2018
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Battlefield 2042 |OT| Clone Wars

Battlefield 2042 |OT| Back to the Future

Battlefield 2042 |OT| Guns of the Non-Pats

Battlefield 2042 |OT| Apocalypse Wow!

Battlefield 2042 |OT| What a Time to be Revived
 

Lausebub

Member
Nov 4, 2017
3,151
Have DICE ever released a longer gameplay video? All I can remember are those short 2 minutes long trailers.
 

ScoutDave

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,297
I wanna see a full match of conquest being played out on a new map using the specialists we havent really seen. I wanna get a sense of how they will work in a match instead of a few seconds of footage in a trailer we got.

Will we get that? Probably not lol.