Battlefield 2042 Beta |OT| October 6 (Early Access) October 8 (Open Beta) till October 10

elyetis · Oct 12, 2021

Tovarisc said:
You could have 2 tanks (MBT or MAA), 2 attack aircrafts (jet or helo) and 2 transport aircrafts (little bird or full transpo).

That is total of 6 "special" vehicles per team, 12 total. On 128 player server map can have 40 vehicles at any given time so in theory it leaves 28 quads, tesla trucks and such buzzing around. I also assume those robodogs count towards 40 cap as they were in vehicle spawning menu.

4 aircraft per team is a lot and especially when players did prioritize attack helos over jets and little birds over transpos, so air to ground attack power was immense. Compounded by pure trashfire AA solutions that wouldn't hit aircraft even if launched inside of one.

Even ignoring the fact they probably went for too many air vehicules compared to tank, yeah this is mostly another example of why giving too much freedom of choice lead to bad balancing, which is something many people have said about that vehicule spawn system since bf1.

And somehow they thought it was a good idea to bring that same problem with the removal of the class system/full freedom of choice for gadget and weapons.

Mr Eric said:
true, there were too many air vehicles in the beta, while only 2 armored vehicles were possible + the humvee. I think that they have a limited number of slots for vehicle, and if you add all the quads, humvee already waiting close to the flags + the possible vehicle drops, maybe this was the main factor for limited armored spawn. If that's the problem they could reduce the number of land vehicles available on the map, have a self destruct timer for damaged and abandoned vehicles (BFV has it, I don't think 2042 has it or the timer is too long), and lastly reduce the air vehicles number which is clearly too high. Will they do it ? We don't know...

In addition to bug which often showed that you could call in a vehicle, yet you couldn't. There was a very clear problem ( or total lack of ? ) with self destruct timer for damaged and abandoned vehicles. On the laste day I was often trying to do some dumb shit with the jeep and trying to run over ennemies etc.. And very quickly in matches it becomes close to impossible to call a new vehicle, and you end up checking the map only to see every transport vehicle abandoned on the map, often actually stuck on obstacles...

thejpfin · Oct 12, 2021

Just refunded my preorder. I'm still hoping that Portal mode turns out good, but there's no guarantee that controller problems get fixed by launch and console version doesn't support mouse/keyboard (at least not yet), so I rather not risk it with preorder.

Corthier · Oct 12, 2021

Hazard Zone trailer on the 14th

Aleman · Oct 12, 2021

Hell Let Loose is really scratching my Battlefield itch as the wait for 2042 continues. The slower, more tactical pace is a great complement.

Mahonay · Oct 12, 2021

Aleman said:
Hell Let Loose is really scratching my Battlefield itch as the wait for 2042 continues. The slower, more tactical pace is a great complement.

Absolutely. My bud and I had a blast playing it last night, even if we are terrible at it.

Theorry · Oct 12, 2021

Theorry · Oct 12, 2021

Dangerman1337 · Oct 12, 2021

Theorry said:

As I keep saying this is the Specailist that is gamebreaking; he'll be the all arounder since we have super-quick health regen in this game.

Axon · Oct 12, 2021

Well people said they wanted more Battlefield 4. Here you have another BF game with the Battlefield 4 launch quality.

FullMetalTech · Oct 12, 2021

Mahonay said:
Absolutely. My bud and I had a blast playing it last night, even if we are terrible at it.

Lol. I thought I was the only awful one. But I'm enjoying it honestly until BF2042.

Raide · Oct 12, 2021

Dangerman1337 said:
As I keep saying this is the Specailist that is gamebreaking; he'll be the all arounder since we have super-quick health regen in this game.

The main thing I am wondering is if he revives to full health plus the 20. Falck has the trait of full revive, so I wonder if this new one is only half plus 20? Seems kinda pointless if that is correct. Also, makes Falck redundant. She was old, so time to retire.

Theorry · Oct 12, 2021

I like Paik

Dangerman1337 · Oct 12, 2021

Raide said:
The main thing I am wondering is if he revives to full health plus the 20. Falck has the trait of full revive, so I wonder if this new one is only half plus 20? Seems kinda pointless if that is correct. Also, makes Falck redundant. She was old, so time to retire.

Well health regen makes healing gadgets pointless vast majority of the time anyways unless you & your squad play super-aggresesive.

SecondNature · Oct 12, 2021

Dangerman1337 said:
As I keep saying this is the Specailist that is gamebreaking; he'll be the all arounder since we have super-quick health regen in this game.

Actually I think these sound pretty fun and balanced, though a few tweaks would be for the best.

the biggest issue rn is the free form gadget slot and fast health regen really kill teamplay. Less selfish abilities also help immensely

But I think the current specialists really suck

-Falk is a crippled medic. Health regen is too fast and her revive gun is shit.

-Mackay needs a serious nerf. I dont mind that he can grapple things but he should also be able to setup zip lines for teammates. Way too selfish of an operator

-Boris seems too situational to me. His passive really should just include something oriented towards repairing things. There seems to be no operator that is a good mechanic.

In general, I hate the idea of auto turrets. Would be an amazing op if they had fortifications still

-Casper seems pretty fine, though his radar trait seems really gimmicky to me(afaik it just senses when someone is around but never really lets you know where. Overall seems too weak). Would be better if he could remain undetected by the operator who marks enemies and had a shorter spotting ping

Ozorov · Oct 12, 2021

Corthier said:
Hazard Zone trailer on the 14th

What is it rumored to be? Battle Royale?

Theorry · Oct 12, 2021

Ozorov said:
What is it rumored to be? Battle Royale?

More Tarkov

SecondNature · Oct 12, 2021

Raide said:
The main thing I am wondering is if he revives to full health plus the 20. Falck has the trait of full revive, so I wonder if this new one is only half plus 20? Seems kinda pointless if that is correct. Also, makes Falck redundant. She was old, so time to retire.

It makes much more sense if Falk could still revive teammates from a distance.

Falk was supposed to be the super healer and this dude would be an all rounder. Rn, Falk just is a selfish self-healer

fixing revives, buffing falk, and slowing health regen will help the games balance a lot better

oriic · Oct 12, 2021

Only 1:48?

Stoney Mason · Oct 12, 2021

Ozorov said:
What is it rumored to be? Battle Royale?

An extraction mode although there is a small bit of overlap conceptually between the two concepts. But there tends to be a lot difference. Of course they will put their own spin on it.

Firefly · Oct 12, 2021

oriic said:
Only 1:48?

That's the length of the teaser.

edit My mistake looks like it isn't. Expecting another heavily edited and strangely cut trailer.

Gero · Oct 12, 2021

oriic said:
Only 1:48?

Probably another super cinematic trailer that has nothing to do with the actual quality of the game :p

Tovarisc · Oct 12, 2021

Hot take is that it's 1:48 because it was all they were able to record over 8h workday because game is so unstable.

Lausebub · Oct 12, 2021

Has there ever been a long bf trailer? Even all the gameplay trailers I can remember were only about 2 minutes long.

Ramirez · Oct 12, 2021

Gero said:
Probably another super cinematic trailer that has nothing to do with the actual quality of the game :p

lmao, that's exactly how I felt playing the beta.

Cubaneyes · Oct 12, 2021

oriic said:
Only 1:48?

its 1:48 minutes of heavy winds, light visibility, rain, carrier with some helicopters and......fade to black HAZARD ZONE

Vidpixel · Oct 12, 2021

Does DICE typically release a blog or something after their betas discussing feedback that'll be addressed in the final release?

Stoney Mason · Oct 12, 2021

Vidpixel said:
Does DICE typically release a blog or something after their betas discussing feedback that'll be addressed in the final release?

Yes. But they've been pretty quiet this whole cycle up to release so I'm not sure if they will this time. We'll see if something drops in a day or two.

Doc Holliday · Oct 12, 2021

Aleman said:
Hell Let Loose is really scratching my Battlefield itch as the wait for 2042 continues. The slower, more tactical pace is a great complement.

Thanks for this! Had no idea this game existed and picked it up as soon as I saw some reviews. Looks great!

Earvin Infinity · Oct 12, 2021

I've watched a few CoD players on YouTube playing the beta and for the most part they all seem to love it. They say the movements and gunplay are on point and that it's a beautiful, chaotic game. EA / DICE going for the CoD / Warzone crowd and it seems to be working.

Deleted member 10044 · Oct 12, 2021

Earvin x Hunter said:
I've watched a few CoD players on YouTube playing the beta and for the most part they all seem to love it. They say the movements and gunplay are on point and that it's a beautiful, chaotic game. EA / DICE going for the CoD / Warzone crowd and it seems to be working.

YouTubers make money with advertising, you know, right?

Earvin Infinity · Oct 12, 2021

Frequenzfilter said:
YouTubers make money with advertising, you know, right?

Yeah.

Metal Gear?! · Oct 12, 2021

Aangster said:
The ground vehicle handling was honestly as bad as GR: Wildlands in this Beta. Any update on plans to address that, surely Criterion haven't just been working on that alone.

I disagree strongly. I experienced plenty of lag/rubberbanding problems but driving the ground vehicles (especially the buggy) was always fun and making big jumps (complete with character vocalizations) and rocketing out of control downhill was always exhilarating.

Ghost Recon Wildlands vehicles in the beta/demo were basically just wearing a vehicle costume around your body and running really fast ala that Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction stealth mission, you were glued to the ground, couldn't jump or ramp off of anything, never had trouble climbing hills, etc.

nolifebr · Oct 12, 2021

I hope they confirm if Hazard Zone is actually F2P like some rumors said (or not)

BloodHound · Oct 12, 2021

Avitus said:
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Kind of funny how plausible it is. I wonder if a majority of work has gone into Hazard Zone and the Portal, with the base 2042 game being kind of an afterthought.

Don't kill the messenger.

Avitus · Oct 12, 2021

nolifebr said:
I hope they confirm if Hazard Zone is actually F2P like some rumors said (or not)

Your big AAA shooter needs a F2P entry point nowadays. That's just the way it is. It's another Firestorm if it's not free.

HiLife · Oct 12, 2021

BloodHound said:
Don't kill the messenger.

🤔

Vidpixel · Oct 12, 2021

I'm curious if Hazard Zone will strictly be squad-based or if there'll be a solo/free-for-all component to it (not sure how Tarkov works in that regard).

SecondNature · Oct 12, 2021

BloodHound said:
Don't kill the messenger.

This just seems to dumb to be real. Did they not plan on making MP? Did they want to make a BR first, and then jam the MP after?? That theory always felt like fanfiction.

Also, I still maintain BR would have been really good for this game. Blackout's BR felt fun because it mixed the grounded military shooter with the sandbox gadgets, and that would have been fun to see here. I think Hazard Zone is a great alternative, but I worry it will be really half-assed.

if they are using the maps from the game, they need to really add a lot more cover and objects to make it feel dense. Orbital alone as a map for example would be pretty awful for Hazard Zone. Its too small IMO. Arent games like Tarkov the size of PUBG's OG map?

HiLife · Oct 12, 2021

SecondNature said:
This just seems to dumb to be real. Did they not plan on making MP? Did they want to make a BR first, and then jam the MP after?? That theory always felt like fanfiction.

Also, I still maintain BR would have been really good for this game. Blackout's BR felt fun because it mixed the grounded military shooter with the sandbox gadgets, and that would have been fun to see here. I think Hazard Zone is a great alternative, but I worry it will be really half-assed.

if they are using the maps from the game, they need to really add a lot more cover and objects to make it feel dense. Orbital alone as a map for example would be pretty awful for Hazard Zone. Its too small IMO. Arent games like Tarkov the size of PUBG's OG map?

Did you like Firestorm?

Serpens007 · Oct 12, 2021

I think that a BF game having BR like elements is normal even if it wouldn't have been created as one in the first place. We already had stuff like self healing, which had stop being a thing in favour of auto regen until BRs, contextual pings, etc.

Battle Royales simply influence a lot of designs elements due to how popular they are.

Tried the beta on PS4 base out of curiosity and it was quite an interesting experience. I think the game on PC could def run better on lower end hardware if we were allowed to go as far as the PS4/Xbox One version does in order to improve performance. Game on base last gen consoles is like two tiers below the lowest option on PC.

Other than that, the game felt pretty good in terms of flow. It was tight and consistent, but yeah, it felt a lot like the BF4 beta on PS3. Only that above 25 fps

Belvedere · Oct 12, 2021

Reads like pure speculative fiction and is at odds with what is known about the development timeline.

SecondNature · Oct 12, 2021

HiLife said:
Did you like Firestorm?

I did, but it was clearly not ready. Lots of UI issues, and the setting/locations were not great.

But the environment/graphics, vehicle gameplay, "events" around the map, armour system, etc. were all so good that Warzone did the same thing.

It just feels like often, BF's engine holds the game back severely. I dont understand how they otherwise continue to have such big problems with UI

Stoney Mason · Oct 12, 2021

Belvedere said:
Reads like pure speculative fiction and is at odds with what is known about the development timeline.

I pretty much ignore his tweets and his "articles" at this point. They are useless. Which is different than saying I have my own complaints and issues about what the beta gave us.

FuturaBold · Oct 12, 2021

While still buggy as heck I think the PS5 might have had the best performance.

Aangster · Oct 12, 2021

Metal Gear?! said:
I disagree strongly. I experienced plenty of lag/rubberbanding problems but driving the ground vehicles (especially the buggy) was always fun and making big jumps (complete with character vocalizations) and rocketing out of control downhill was always exhilarating.

Ghost Recon Wildlands vehicles in the beta/demo were basically just wearing a vehicle costume around your body and running really fast ala that Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction stealth mission, you were glued to the ground, couldn't jump or ramp off of anything, never had trouble climbing hills, etc.

Sure, that's a bit more vehicle physics than handling, which BF2042 does just ok apart from the Beta bugs like the wonky flip outs and roll overs. Really can't say the same for military vehicles and the civilian trucks on PC, they responded sluggishly to inputs, ran on road surfaces like skates especially when you boost, and good luck if you strike a rock while doing it. Honestly more like Wildlands after its release (pretty sure UBI did fuck all to sort that out even with Breakpoint).

At times the EBAA Wildcat would struggle to climb moderate incline parts of the hills connecting A to C sectors.

I hope DICE are working on the gunner camera jitters and things like tanks taking 20 vehicle damage from exploding civilian vehicles being run over. The latter is just stupid.

AnotherNils · Oct 12, 2021

BloodHound said:
Don't kill the messenger.

I dunno if I but this, everyone screaming for BF in a modern setting, firestorm failed worse than BFV and I'm supposed to think they thought "obviously a BR is the way to go"

if it's true, DICE is more oUt of touch with their audience than I previously believed

RoboPlato · Oct 12, 2021

LevelCap's wrap-up video is almost word for word what my impressions are after the beta. I'd just add that controls on console need to be improved but he's on PC so he probably didn't realize it. Basically game is fun, Specialists just need to be adjusted to fit better into a class structure, still a lot of unknowns (but promising ones) with the other modes.

Theorry · Oct 13, 2021

fracas · Oct 13, 2021

It's only been a few days and I'm missing the beta pretty bad lol. It really grew on me.

Gonna have to dive into BFV this week and see if I can scratch the itch

Moodz · Oct 13, 2021

fracas said:
It's only been a few days and I'm missing the beta pretty bad lol. It really grew on me.

Gonna have to dive into BFV this week and see if I can scratch the itch

Same here...
Except I'm tired of BFV.
Can't wait for launch.

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