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Oct 26, 2017
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Looks surprisingly good. I'll keep an eye out for a sale.
 

chrominance

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Can't help but feel both these questions would be answered by reading the thread. I mean for the latter it's mentioned as early as the 40th post.

I mostly just saw "good level design with varied objectives" and "might be like Disgaea?", but the latter can't be quite right because I'm sure there's no throwing people onto stacks of other people or million-plus damage attacks, right?

As for the latter, you're totally right and I did miss that, my bad.

To be fair, the "Maid" in the title refers to the Maid of Orléans: Jeanne d'Arc herself. The banner she carried is an important plot point in the game.

Listen, I can only eat so much crow in one thread, and the person above corrected me on something else I got wrong already.

(You're also totally right, I did not know that was a title/nickname she had!)
 

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lmao, if it was just the right 4 I'd have no issues but the 3 on the left takes it straight to noooooope territory.
 

Pau

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All the men look aesthetically pleasing too so it's not like you have to choose between appropriate designs and attractive. Hell I say when they go over board on trying to make these designs fan service-y it makes them less appealing.

I quite like the design of the lady in red in the image you posted. Get rid of the high heels and give her some appropriate boots and while not entirely realistic would at least fit a lot better.
Exactly. And it's not like they didn't have some good inspiration in Rose of Versailles for making female military officers look amazing and attractive.
 

Redcrayon

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Oct 27, 2017
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Same here, concept sounds great but I can't get down with this
Same again here. I like the concept of taking notes from a less-well-used-in-games style of period dress and letting the peninsular war inform an SRPG, as opposed to general medieval stuff, but bolting on the same unimaginative, bog-standard templated sexualisation of half the cast (who in places look very young) means I'll skip it. Completely unnecessary.
 

Uthred

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Oct 25, 2017
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That's bloody disingenuous and rude, and you should apologize to that member. Especially considering:

At that point there was only the torso design so saying someone wearing a skirt was "sexed up" seemed oddly puritanical. Perhaps the poster had already seen the full art, perhaps they hadnt. It certainly wasn't disingenuous on my behalf. Was it mistaken in retrospect, sure, as I owned up to. I was wrong, I admitted it, I don't feel the need to apologise but thank you for the suggestion, unless that was a moderator instruction? I'm unsure if this forum has mods use distinct formatting for that.
 

Zaber

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This seems interesting enough in the gameplay department, despite the character designs. I will likely get it during a sale.
 

RM8

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I'll never understand why this genre became inseparable from anime porn. Just why?
 

Uthred

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I'll never understand why this genre became inseparable from anime porn. Just why?

Unless your definition for "anime porn" is very broad I'm not sure what you're talking about. The big franchises, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics, Disagea, etc. are nothing close to the character designs in this. The more popular recent indie entries, Fell Seal, Wargroove, etc. likewise are nothing close. In fact the only thing similar I can think of is Eiyuu Senki, which is more visual novel than SRPG.
 

Valcrist

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Oct 25, 2017
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The character designs appeal to me, but let me show you what doesn't.

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This is just an example. ALL of the text is like this. It actually hurts my head to read. I put in for a refund just now. Not supporting translations with quality this low.
 

waugh

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The character designs appeal to me, but let me show you what doesn't.

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This is just an example. ALL of the text is like this. It actually hurts my head to read. I put in for a refund just now. Not supporting translations with quality this low.

Unfortunately this is the norm for Chinese RPGs. They've only recently started coming over here thanks to Steam and because of that they don't have the decades history of translation standards Japanese games do. They probably just get somebody on the team with a high school level understanding of English to translate.

It is better than nothing imo but it certainly makes it hard to recommend these games. Even the ones that don't have ridiculous sexualised designs.
 

RM8

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Unless your definition for "anime porn" is very broad I'm not sure what you're talking about. The big franchises, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics, Disagea, etc. are nothing close to the character designs in this. The more popular recent indie entries, Fell Seal, Wargroove, etc. likewise are nothing close. In fact the only thing similar I can think of is Eiyuu Senki, which is more visual novel than SRPG.
I exaggerated, but Fire Emblem is now part dating sim. Disgaea might not be nearly as bad, heck not even bad, but far from "grounded". FFT was my first SRPG, there are no games like that anymore. You're right that recent western titles have been good. I did exaggerate, I apologize :P I just wish we had more stuff like FFT and Tactics Ogre, something more serious and grounded.
 

erd

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Unless your definition for "anime porn" is very broad I'm not sure what you're talking about. The big franchises, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics, Disagea, etc. are nothing close to the character designs in this. The more popular recent indie entries, Fell Seal, Wargroove, etc. likewise are nothing close. In fact the only thing similar I can think of is Eiyuu Senki, which is more visual novel than SRPG.
Fire Emblem Conquest literally ends with the main character running head first into Camilla's beasts (in 1st person) and falling to the ground after bouncing off them. At that point, the camera spends entirely too long zooming right into her cleavage, to the point where the entire screen is covered by breasts. Which is made even worse by the whole incest thing Camilla constantly has going on with the main character.

I'm not sure if I'd call it porn, but it's still complete garbage.
 

Einherjer

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The character designs appeal to me, but let me show you what doesn't.

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This is just an example. ALL of the text is like this. It actually hurts my head to read. I put in for a refund just now. Not supporting translations with quality this low.

No shit i actually skipped most of the text because of this at least the gameplay is top notch.
 
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Unless your definition for "anime porn" is very broad I'm not sure what you're talking about. The big franchises, Fire Emblem, Final Fantasy Tactics, Disagea, etc. are nothing close to the character designs in this. The more popular recent indie entries, Fell Seal, Wargroove, etc. likewise are nothing close. In fact the only thing similar I can think of is Eiyuu Senki, which is more visual novel than SRPG.
You might want to specify which Fire Emblem, because Nowi, Tharja and Camilla exists. In fact, in terms of fan service crap, I've gotten more from some Fire Emblem like Awakening and Fates than Banner of Maid, which as I said doesn't actually feature any perverted content apart from some of the character art themselves. So let's not act like Fire Emblem has been completely innocent just because their latest entry was doing better in this regard.

But about this game, yeah it's that kinda game. Tough game to sell to the peeps here and I can understand where they're coming from, but Xenoblade 2 also has a lot of fans and that game feature even more ridiculous female designs. Era truly has diverse users.
 

Uthred

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You might want to specify which Fire Emblem, because Nowi, Tharja and Camilla exists. In fact, in terms of fan service crap, I've gotten more from some Fire Emblem like Awakening and Fates than Banner of Maid, which as I said doesn't actually feature any perverted content apart from some of the character art themselves.

It was more the use of the word porn I was questioning, which was an admitted exaggeration on that users behalf. I certainly wouldn't deny Fire Emblem includes a lot more fan service these days, though I don't think it was every entirely free of it. I suppose the confusion might have been that there are actual SRPG porn games, the aforementioned Eiyuu Senki (which had it excised for console and Steam release) and the other popular one whose name escapes me Ranko? Sanko? or something.

I exaggerated, but Fire Emblem is now part dating sim. Disgaea might not be nearly as bad, heck not even bad, but far from "grounded". FFT was my first SRPG, there are no games like that anymore. You're right that recent western titles have been good. I did exaggerate, I apologize :P I just wish we had more stuff like FFT and Tactics Ogre, something more serious and grounded.

I'd suggest giving Fell Seal a go, it really recaptured that FFT vibe for me.
 

Disclaimer

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You might want to specify which Fire Emblem, because Nowi, Tharja and Camilla exists. In fact, in terms of fan service crap, I've gotten more from some Fire Emblem like Awakening and Fates than Banner of Maid, which as I said doesn't actually feature any perverted content apart from some of the character art themselves. So let's not act like Fire Emblem has been completely innocent just because their latest entry was doing better in this regard.

But about this game, yeah it's that kinda game. Tough game to sell to the peeps here and I can understand where they're coming from, but Xenoblade 2 also has a lot of fans and that game feature even more ridiculous female designs. Era truly has diverse users.

No denying Awakening & Fates were bad about otaku pandering creepiness, but thankfully they're the exceptions rather than the rule for the series—not Three Houses. And it's been two entries without said stuff, Shadows of Valentia was fine as well.
 
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Assuming you quoted me with my obvious disdain for the garbage art with this response intentionally?

Very mature.

No one's stopping you from liking your anime titty game but no need to mock me with it.
How in the world is that poster mocking you? You were the first one to post the picture, they're reacting to the picture, so they quoted you. Even excluded the rest of your post to make it clear they're simply reacting to the picture.

Are you only allowed to quote people if you agree with every word they say now?
 

FallenGrace

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How in the world is that poster mocking you? You were the first one to post the picture, they're reacting to the picture, so they quoted you. Even excluded the rest of your post to make it clear they're simply reacting to the picture.

Are you only allowed to quote people if you agree with every word they say now?
It seemed unessecerry to quote me considering the bit they excluded to rub in my face they're only interested for the tits and the chance of maids. They could have used their own picture or simply said so in a post but no, highlight to me they want it for titties.

If they want the game then that's fine but that quote was wholly unessecerry and if you can't see why I might find that kind of insulting then I don't know what to tell you.
 

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FYI the Switch English version has been submitted and the devs are just waiting. I couldn't get the PC version running (admittedly I did minimal troubleshooting) so I'm gonna have to wait for the Switch port.

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“@cwistofu Hi, the Switch port is already done and waiting for the approval process. There's no exact launch date currently for it, all we can do is wait. BTW, did you check your anti-virus method and see if the game client is blocked or something?”
 

Drax

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No denying Awakening & Fates were bad about otaku pandering creepiness, but thankfully they're the exceptions rather than the rule for the series—not Three Houses. And it's been two entries without said stuff, Shadows of Valentia was fine as well.

nah, harrier in sov is pretty much worse then anything in awakening/fates. Luckily the dlc classes in feth are nothing like that. and tbh, i wouldn't put fire emblem in a healthy place regards character designs asides from Radiant Dawn and to a lesser extent PoR. I would mention feth but Kronya's pretty bad ngl.

And to bring this back to the op, games looks really interesting.
 
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Disclaimer

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nah, harrier in sov is pretty much worse then anything in awakening/fates. Luckily the dlc classes in feth are nothing like that. and tbh, i wouldn't put fire emblem in a healthy place regards character designs asides from Radiant Dawn and to a lesser extent PoR. I would mention feth but Kronya's pretty bad ngl.

And to bring this back to the op, games looks really interesting.

Harrier is high level paid DLC content in a game that doesn't even need/get to high levels without excessive grinding. I'd wager the percentage of players who've seen, let alone used, harrier is incredibly small.

There's a big difference between that and pornographic major characters like Camilla, sexualized/marriageable children (Nowi, Elise, etc.), ubiquitous thong cavaliers/knights, etc. in my book.

I said earlier, but SoV and Three Houses have ~1-2 such designs total, counting 3H's Kronya and maybe Cornelia, and SoV's harrier class and maybe Nuibaba, and all of those examples have minimal screentime; the games' overall tone is markedly different and more grounded.
 

Patapuf

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Having played a bit more of it, i'm surprised at how decent this is. It's by no means a materpiece but if you don't mind the designs, this is worth a look.
 
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And the word maid implies that there are also... maids? :)
How in the world is that poster mocking you? You were the first one to post the picture, they're reacting to the picture, so they quoted you. Even excluded the rest of your post to make it clear they're simply reacting to the picture.

Are you only allowed to quote people if you agree with every word they say now?

Oh please! As if the sarcastic ":)" in his post didn't give the tone away.
 

Don Fluffles

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Frankly, I think it's because the creators of such games want to reach a potential audience of overlapping sectors. In other words, they don't want to limit their customers exclusively to horny people. They're consciously appealing to them as one priority target and thus running the risk of alienating those who are repulsed by the sexist or creepy elements...but also wish to see their titles remain available for purchase in mainstream online stores or retail outlets, particularly when they believe there's more intrinsic value to be found in their work.
If they really wanted to appeal to both audiences, maybe add an option to have more realistic and less revealing female outfits.

But seriously, miniskirts+thighhighs and the 17th(?) century is so incredibly historically accurate.
 

ghoulie

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Oct 28, 2017
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FYI the Switch English version has been submitted and the devs are just waiting. I couldn't get the PC version running (admittedly I did minimal troubleshooting) so I'm gonna have to wait for the Switch port.

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聖女戦旗 on Twitter

“@cwistofu Hi, the Switch port is already done and waiting for the approval process. There's no exact launch date currently for it, all we can do is wait. BTW, did you check your anti-virus method and see if the game client is blocked or something?”
Yessss
 

Eros

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Oct 27, 2017
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If there's a PC version with character design mods then I'll take a look. Otherwise lol nah I'm good.
 

JCG

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If they really wanted to appeal to both audiences, maybe add an option to have more realistic and less revealing female outfits.

But seriously, miniskirts+thighhighs and the 17th(?) century is so incredibly historically accurate.

You won't find me disagreeing with giving people such options. I am all for that.

If I ever developed games in this genre, the default costumes and military uniforms would try to be fairly historically accurate and essentially not sexualized as a result.
 

Falk

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Oct 26, 2017
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Can second recommendation for Fell Seal, played it a couple months back and I think it's the first time in forever I didn't get Indie-RPG-Story-Syndrome vibes from it (albeit it was a little predictable, haha), it didn't have tumblr nose, and the systems and progression are very, VERY familiar to FFTactics.

(disclaimer: I'd play the game in OP too but super strapped for time nowadays)