Yep, pretty much. I am happy either way, really. Love RTWP and Turn Based. I can't be disappointed.
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Baldur's Gate 3; what do you expect from tomorrow's gameplay trailer?
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If both are offered I'd expect it to be balanced toward RTWP a but like POE2 have the TB option but it won't be fully balanced if at all toward TB. Can Friday get here already damnit lol! I cannot wait to see what they are doing. I've been on a crpg binge for the last two months. Finished POE2 on a POTD solo run. I've put 300 hours into Divinity 2 but never finished it. Deleted all saves to only start over from scratch and am making my way through the game on Tactician solo. Also started Pathfinder, backed the new one and will finish Pathfinder once I'm done with Divinity.
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I would love to see something that would be a combination of Pillars of Eternity (isometric view, real-time with pause combat), Original Sin II (different origin stories, gameplay centered around player choice and creativity, Dungeon Master mode, etc.) and Neverwinter Nights 2 (dialogues in third person, cutscenes, bigger focus on companions).
RTwP because it's Baldur's Gate and Turn Based because it's Larian.
Still think the fact it's BG should take presedence, as it's a legendary gaming IP, but if Larian decided they are not equipped to create a combat system as fun as the ones they are used to make unless it's turn based then I'm ok with it.
Still think the fact it's BG should take presedence, as it's a legendary gaming IP, but if Larian decided they are not equipped to create a combat system as fun as the ones they are used to make unless it's turn based then I'm ok with it.
They extended their event by 30 minuts so we are looking at 60 minutes at least, that is a lot time to show nothing.
Maybe I'm a philistine, but I really hope it's not RTwP. That system worked well in the original BG series because the AD&D ruleset meant that 90% of most combat encounters was everyone autoattacking, and RTwP kept things nice and quick.
But if they're going to modernize the systems -- i.e., give the various classes a suite of commonly-used abilities to cycle through -- RTwP will likely slow everything down to a painful crawl if you want or need to play quasi-optimally. I found the combat in Pillars of Eternity to be a bit of a slog for this reason, and it made me struggle to finish those games. By contrast, the Divinity 2 combat was a lot of fun even though it required extensive micromanaging, because that's the bread and butter of turn-based systems.
But if they're going to modernize the systems -- i.e., give the various classes a suite of commonly-used abilities to cycle through -- RTwP will likely slow everything down to a painful crawl if you want or need to play quasi-optimally. I found the combat in Pillars of Eternity to be a bit of a slog for this reason, and it made me struggle to finish those games. By contrast, the Divinity 2 combat was a lot of fun even though it required extensive micromanaging, because that's the bread and butter of turn-based systems.
I think this is where a lot of people are gonna differ.
Do people see Baldur's Gate as it's own thing, or as a D&D product? Because the original was an attempt to create an authentic D&D experience using controls similar to RTS's, a prevailing genre at the time. In doing so, it created a whole different feel to combat than the strict D&D rules.
So, I have a feeling the turn-based vs Real Time With Pause preference is going to come down to how removed from D&D you view the Baldur's Gate series. Obviously, a turn-based system would be able to skew closer to the D&D experience, but then it wouldn't quite be the same as the old Baldur's Gate games.
It's a really interesting conundrum and I don't see an option that entirely pleases both crowds.
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Isometric party CRPG with RTwP is what I expect. Because everything else =why even call it Baldur's Gate 3?
That said, calling it Baldur's Gate 3 in the first place fells like a mistake. It should just have been Dungeon & Dragons: Whatever sub-title.
With the name Baldur's Gate 3 they already carry a big burden and it will be impossible to make everyone - especially old-school fans - happy.
That said, calling it Baldur's Gate 3 in the first place fells like a mistake. It should just have been Dungeon & Dragons: Whatever sub-title.
With the name Baldur's Gate 3 they already carry a big burden and it will be impossible to make everyone - especially old-school fans - happy.
I prefer turn-based for an authentic table top experience but I would also be fine with RTwP because it's what I know the BG series for. I voted for both just so everyone is happy.
I can only speak for myself. And I see Baldur's Gate as Baldur's Gate. I had not played D&D before so all I know of it is through the games. And I believe it create a combat system that works well for it. So if someone says it has a combat like Baldur's Gate you know what to expect.
What I want is a third person/isometric turn based RPG because that is what Larian is best at making, though I would be absolutely in favor of a third person RPG if they were good at it. RTwP is fine too but it's not as good as turn based and it's not as Dungeon's and Dragons either.
I still don't understand why people want an authentic D&D combat experience. D&D combat is horrible :\ I'm saying this as someone who considers himself a bigger fan of tabletop RPGs than video game ones.
I prefer RTwP, but I'm preparing myself for disappointment, since I think it's going to be TB. it's more popular and would be easier to transfer to consoles. That pretty much seals the deal, considering how PoE2 did (even though it's a top 5 CRPG) and how much budget BG3 appears to have.
I prefer RTwP, but I'm preparing myself for disappointment, since I think it's going to be TB. it's more popular and would be easier to transfer to consoles. That pretty much seals the deal, considering how PoE2 did (even though it's a top 5 CRPG) and how much budget BG3 appears to have.
It's kind of crazy to me that we're in a time where turn-based is almost considered more marketable than real-time. That D&D resurgence has ripples, man.
I can admit this. If its turn-based and visually unimpressive but not on the Switch I won't be happy at all.
Does anyone know how well the Divinity Switch ports did? They're really good, and I'd love to see BG3 on it if they can swing it.
I expect it to be like D:OS but with another skin and more improvements. How can one not be happy about this? There's no better dev for BG3 out there and if it wasn't for them the series would stay dead.
Out of curiosity, what could BGIII be that would appeal to you? Not being cheeky!
Im just salty we're not getting a real dark alliance 3 lol. As for BG3, I'd like to see a bigger RPG perhaps in Third Person. But I know that would take away from all the fans dying for an isometric rpg and I wouldn't want to take that from them.
Well here's hoping that the new Dark Alliance game is good despite the hilariously awful CG trailer!
IDK if sales for the Original Sin 2 port were ever reported but hopefully it did well enough for them to consider working with the system again. I'm still waiting on LRG to ship my cartridge version...
I'm hoping it will be like the originals but with a lot more detail and the ability to zoom in all the way to a tight third-person view. The ability to control characters individually in real-time but with action timers would be a bonus.
Neither, I meant actual D&D spells that will be recognizable by people. I don't think the game will follow D&D rules when it comes to spell usage and resting, but we'll see, I don't even know how D&D works these days but the spell system where you need to rest frequently to be able to use them again doesn't translate very well to a video game (imo) unless the character is high level (like in BG2 where you start at level 7 or whatever).
But we'll see, I'm ready to be surprised whatever they decide to do.
I doubt that Larian would get the D&D license for the game and not lean into it pretty heavily. We are definitely going to see classic D&D fare like magic missile, fireball, cloudkill, mage armor etc. I agree that spells per rest isn't a mechanic that translates well to video games though, so I hope they don't go that route.
I expect a sizeable amount of content revealed as they don't have the luxury of being ambiguous considering the importance of Baldur's Gate for CRPG fans.
I don't mind turn based as I love the DOS games but I would prefer the game to be played like the original saga or at the very least like DAO if possible.
Super stoked for this. BGII is my favorite game of all time and I can't believe it's finally happening.
I don't mind turn based as I love the DOS games but I would prefer the game to be played like the original saga or at the very least like DAO if possible.
Super stoked for this. BGII is my favorite game of all time and I can't believe it's finally happening.