Not necessarily. We don't have confirmation either way.
I would imagine that the UI is going to be changed in the future. It's still using some Divinity assets, I think.
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Baldur's Gate 3 - Leaked screenshots - SPOILERS ahead
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Maybe wait a few hours before calling the dream mortuary. We'll know exactly how the game plays by the end of the day.
Agreed, I'm actually very surprised by how many people are complaining about this.
I personally think that text can, realistically, do a much, much better job adding character and nuance to events and conversations. With text, you can just throw tons of "he says, gingerly scratching his chin" kinds of characterization/contextualization lines everywhere all willy nilly, not to mention other behaviors and actions (like "he chugs the beer and slams the pint on the table, visibly annoyed" or whatever, I'm not a writer lol), even in the most minor conversations - it's really all up to the writer(s) how detailed they want to be.
With cinematic close-ups (assuming all conversations happen in the close-up perspective), you're gonna need unique animations for all of that sort of stuff, and that shit is downright expensive and time-consuming, so it's obviously not going to happen very frequently outside main story scenes and important conversations. There's also the expectation that all lines will be voiced, which might put a potential limit to the amount of different characters you can actually talk to.
I'd say I'm probably fine with either, personally, but I definitely see the strengths of just using text to do these.
Yeah, looks like it is. I'm not too worried either way but I'd like something more similar to the gorgeous UI in the old BG / infinity engine games.
I think there's something to be said about how many resources would be needed to create something like that vs a few lines of text.
That said, I think they're gonna get a lot of heat for any deviation from the originals, even things like graphical or presentation leaps.
While I see your point in regards to the cost factor for certain subtle animations, it still seems to me that the benefits of actually seeing the characters you're talking to up close outweigh it, at least personally speaking
They may not have the budget for a huge myriad of unique animations (though who knows at this point) but they surely have enough of a variety to still give the characters...well...character, I have no doubt. And considering how many characters were voiced in Divinity 2, I wouldn't be surprised if this game is 100% voiced
I've tried both PoE 1 & 2 and bounced off hard, even with the admittedly strong writing. D: OS 2 meanwhile was probably one of my favourite games of the generation.
I'll still go to bat for static backgrounds (REmake is still a GOAT for me), but they look very dated in isometric settings, I think largely because their key exploit -being able to add vast amounts of world detail at no additional processing overhead - is severely limited at wider, top-down angles. Larian's approach feels like a smart, modern progression of the classics, that benefits from being able to adjust camera and move freely about the world without hitting loading screens (a severe issue on console ports of PoE that were never an issue in Divinity).
Saved and re-uploaded to imgur in case site takes them down. Below is few picked ones, rest in the source at the bottom.
Source: https://imgur.com/a/RMQ8QCi
Original source: https://www.jeuxactu.com/jeu/images-baldur-s-gate-3-20343-5.htm
Edit: Credit goes to https://www.resetera.com/threads/ba...from-tomorrows-gameplay-trailer.172107/page-5 thread, I decided to make "New news, new thread" step
That's an Emhyr van Emreis looking mother f-er.
That's all fine and good and I'm not trying to convince you one way or the other, I'm just explaining why some of us might prefer a top-down view where conversations take place entirely in text form.
Some like to read and imagine, some like a more obviously visual approach. Both have strengths and weaknesses, and liking one over the other is perfectly valid and fine.
Personally I'd much rather have the narrated descriptions from D:OS. They were great.
If this was made by like Naughty Dog and had only a handful of characters and an absurd budget then I'm probably with you. As is I don't think it'll be nearly as effective at communicating nuanced body language or expressions. It'll probably just be "good".
That's fair, I get the point you're making as well, let's hope they still have a narrator like in Divinity then, might be a good compromise between the two :)
On the one hand, yeah we can't be sure how well they'll be doing the animations in this since it's really something new from Larian, but maybe they'll surprise us, who knows xD
Sorry to ask that since it's in your tag, but did you play them on pad or PC?
I've tried them on both and PoE doesn't feel like it works at all on tv (unlike the usual kb+m + monitor).
It is hard for me to get upset (if there is no rtwp) about this being turn based because turn based is inherently far more true to the D&D inspiration than RTWP will ever be.
Plus, I prefer turn based encounters (they tend to be more meaningful on the whole) vs the plethora of trash mobs you typically get in rtwp games that you just auto through.
Plus, I prefer turn based encounters (they tend to be more meaningful on the whole) vs the plethora of trash mobs you typically get in rtwp games that you just auto through.
Yeah the UI looking exactly like DOS is bad. The games art in general look like DOS. A small part of me clinged to the hope that this game would have more painted overall style like pathfinder and less like divinity but I am not suprised. I'm glad that BG3 is being made but as a hardcore BG fan nothing in those pictures remind me of the first games.
I'm not sure I get this, outside of a few of the reused UI assets. D:OS2 was a CRPG heavily inspired by tabletop RPGs. Why would this be any different than that with a "D&D coat of paint"? It's like calling CoD "Doom with a War coat of paint". Like, the environments look less painterly, the character models are far more detailed and less stylized than Divinity. That D&D setting and ruleset makes this a completely different beast than Divinity altogether.
I guess what I'm saying is, if those screenshots came out and I didn't have any idea who was making this, I wouldn't say this looked liked the next Divinity game.
While I think there are some clear differences, the UI isn't worlds apart.
Aesthetically I think it has a much more muted colour palette at least.
Looks pretty nice, but TB is going to mean I'll have to hold off on this game, if ever getting it. Larian are very talented but I was unable to enjoy their combat system in either DOS at all. Unless things are quite different here, maybe 5E will help, I'm not sure it would be worth it for me to invest in this.
The game is also what, 1.5 years or so probably from being fully out? A lot of the UI treatments could change. Like I really hope the portraits change.
I can't see how they could implement a hybrid Turn based RTWP system without watering down the combat by trying to cater to both styles.
I really hope this has 100% turn based combat. Divinity OS2 is best in class and I want more.
Exactly. DOS2 works so well because everything is fine tuned and balanced around the turn based combat.
I really hope this has 100% turn based combat. Divinity OS2 is best in class and I want more.
Exactly. DOS2 works so well because everything is fine tuned and balanced around the turn based combat.
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Right, which is why I said "fully out." It'll be a good time for people to say they'd like x or y changed if they don't like it.
Hey, Imoen's looks totally fine if you squint at it from 10' away.At least 3d portraits won't be as awful as 2's
What the hell happened there?
Nothing, they just switched to a different artist for the sequel, which had a slightly different take on most of the cast.At least 3d portraits won't be as awful as 2's
What the hell happened there?
And frankly he relied a bit less blatantly on touching up photos compared to the first.
That's not Imoen. That's Jaheira.
Or was that part of some joke/reference I'm missing?
What I meant is that Imoen's looks really bad as well if you look at it a bit.
Pathfinder Kingmaker does it successfully, albeit with a mod. But that's more a knock on how Kingmaker's RTwP is designed than the other way around.
I do wish it were just flatly turn-based.
This is my single issue. I haven't finished either D:OS game because I can't stand the writing. It just annoys me so much.
At least 3d portraits won't be as awful as 2's
What the hell happened there?
They tried to make her "sexy" is what happened there.
Not fully voiced as the protagonist was mute. And we wouldn't be asking of them anything more than other AAA RPG already have.
I think when you make a jump to cinematic dialogue you should also have a fully voiced protagonist.
That's why you go for the anime portraits mod.
Wait, there are BG2 Anime portraits?
I need that source