It's locked at 30fps and Boost mode on Pro doesn't alleviate framepacing issues (totally). I most likely won't run any better. It would load faster though.
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Backward compatibility: PlayStation®4 games playable on PlayStation®5
- Thread starter Thiago
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This was common sense in my mind, but good for those who didnt believe
I don't think top 100 was ever an official estimate or something. I thought it was just the titles they were testing at the time.
Hopefully they explain why they are not implementing the cross-save functionality.
It's their decision to develop that, it's not their decision to allow that.
As the games are different SKUs, they have to develop something to transfer the saves on servers from the PS4 for example and then get the saves back on the PS5 versions.
If the games were the same SKUs like on Xbox, devs would not have to do anything as it would just work.
I don't know why they're playing this detail so close to the chest. Maybe when they finally show the UI, they'll also show off some PS4 games that benefit from PS5 BC
Can I stream PS4 games on PS5?
Yes, Remote Play from PS4 to PS5 and PS Now streaming are supported. The benefit of streaming is that you can save your storage space on PS5. Please note that PS4 games will not leverage PS5's Game Boost through streaming
I'm keeping my ps4 for now to save storage space.
Yes, Remote Play from PS4 to PS5 and PS Now streaming are supported. The benefit of streaming is that you can save your storage space on PS5. Please note that PS4 games will not leverage PS5's Game Boost through streaming
I'm keeping my ps4 for now to save storage space.
UH OH let's all seize on the bolded words to pretend like they aren't doing exactly what Xbox is doing.
New UX feature could be multiple resume.
It's good to have some info about this now, but what we *really* want is the list of games that will be enhanced...I'm wondering what level of effort they're putting in there, and hope it's higher than some folks are expecting!
I am disappointed, though, that "transferring saves" is a thing we still have to talk about. It would have been nice if Sony baked cloud saves into PS5, like MS did with XB1.
Yeah, I'm very interested.
Pretty sure it's just games requiring Kinect that won't play on Series S/X, as Kinect will no longer be supported on those platforms. Expectations are that everything else that plays on XB1 should work on XSS/X. At the least, there's been no evidence to the contrary.
I am disappointed, though, that "transferring saves" is a thing we still have to talk about. It would have been nice if Sony baked cloud saves into PS5, like MS did with XB1.
Yeah, I'm very interested.
Pretty sure it's just games requiring Kinect that won't play on Series S/X, as Kinect will no longer be supported on those platforms. Expectations are that everything else that plays on XB1 should work on XSS/X. At the least, there's been no evidence to the contrary.
Then Sony should remaster it. I'll buy it again.
They should explain their decision to not implement it.
Oh sorry, that comment wasn't directed at you specifically.
Sony did great work here.
Looking forward to seeing a list of the games significantly enhanced via Boost mode.
Looking forward to seeing a list of the games significantly enhanced via Boost mode.
Thanks for this.
Yeah, the part about when you sign into the PS5, you will see your PS4 games.
Those that have digital games, the move to PS5 won't be as bad as some think.
It is not done through brute forcing improvements. BC games are already being improved by access to the full power of GPU and CPU on XSX. The BC team applies specific techniques and methods to increase the native resolution by a multiplier and/or doubling the framerates in select games.
Well, for Dirt 5, the game releases close to the PS5, so maybe they just don't want to spend time and money on a feature only a few players will use, I don't know.
I'm soooo anxious to see God of War running on PS5. Performance mode was pretty choppy at around 45fps a lot of the time. PS5 should be able to keep it a solid 60. Can't wait!
Also wonder if this'll help Bloodborne's frame pacing issues?
The next step from here is to be concerned about the 'messaging'.
Glad to see that you can use a LAN cable to transfer.
Streaming from PS4 to PS5 is interesting. Wonder if I should hang onto my PS4 Pro for the secondary TV and just stream games to the PS5 in the living room instead, excerpt for those BC titles that benefit from boost mode.
Streaming from PS4 to PS5 is interesting. Wonder if I should hang onto my PS4 Pro for the secondary TV and just stream games to the PS5 in the living room instead, excerpt for those BC titles that benefit from boost mode.
I'm excited for the easy transfer options (over LAN or Wi-fi) and so glad we can just plug in our external hard drives. I was hoping they could pull that off since Xbox announced it so long ago.
Also funny that it supports Remote Play for PS4, and they recommend it to save storage 🤣
Also funny that it supports Remote Play for PS4, and they recommend it to save storage 🤣
It won't. Don't expect any game capped at 30fps to exceed that cap without a patch. Same as Xbox.
How do PS4 game transfers and game saves work between the two consoles?
You can transfer digital games, game data, and game saves from a PS4 console to a PS5 console using LAN cables, or by connecting wirelessly (WiFi). If you've already stored PS4 games and game data in the external USB storage device connected to your PS4, you can bring them over to PS5 with that external USB storage device. And if you are a PS Plus member, you can also sync PS4 game saves on PS5 through cloud storage.
Is that clear enough??
You can transfer digital games, game data, and game saves from a PS4 console to a PS5 console using LAN cables, or by connecting wirelessly (WiFi). If you've already stored PS4 games and game data in the external USB storage device connected to your PS4, you can bring them over to PS5 with that external USB storage device. And if you are a PS Plus member, you can also sync PS4 game saves on PS5 through cloud storage.
Is that clear enough??
Not sure if you saw the latest news but you are good to go.
nope they said in March that the overwhelming majority of games would play. it was always gonna be around 99% like Jim reiterated later.
people took the top 100 thing as meaning very limited BC and complained about it all summer for no reason.
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Sony clarifies that PS5 will support ‘overwhelming majority’ of PS4 games
After the company hinted it might not support the broader library earlier this week.
www.theverge.com
Cerny was talking about Boost Mode essentially when he was mentioning top 100 titles. I took that to mean that's what they were testing at the time.
" PS4 games will also take advantage of some of PS5's new UX features, but more to come on that later."
anybody an idea what they could mean with that?
anybody an idea what they could mean with that?
Oh I agree! Just good to see things like that spelled out for everyone lol
Yes select games will have improved resolution and frame rate beyond whats possible by the standard BC feature. Example Gears ultimate is 1 game that is being updated from 1080p 30 to 4K 60, not much info is available right now for this specific feature though.
This too.
Confirmed you can just use your existing external hard drive for PS4 games, no need to format.
Now...time for me to invest in a faster external solution....
That's what I meant by "brute force" since the BC team doesn't have access to the game code itself, they're just doing it through the hardware.
Cool! Thanks for the heads up.
So essentially that means it still works exactly the same as the ps5 (other than HDR) but Microsoft are stepping in for specific games to add improvements.
yes but are we sure that list of 1% incompatible games isn't going to grow
/concern
I know you're downplaying the concern trolls, but which games get enhancements is really important to me since I haven't played any PS4 exclusives yet and I have a PS5 pre-ordered. It's annoying how tight-lipped and vague Sony has been in this respect, especially given the deluge of BC info from Xbox
Great, so at the very least we know ND's PS4 games are playable. Is that the most we should expect?
God of War at 60 fps is going to be insane!
Bloodborne is going to load much faster with the new CPU, I can't wait to do play more of it on my PS5!
Bloodborne is going to load much faster with the new CPU, I can't wait to do play more of it on my PS5!
Yes, but that's not "brute force" as it implies they're simply adding more power and that's it to increase native resolutions and/or double the framerates beyond what they were coded at in select games. I would refrain from using that term to describe what the BC team is doing.