Apologies, I'll refrain in the future.
Uh huh, the classic "I don't know how to respond so I'm going to call you a shill" response.
Before responding to all of you points I want to make a few items clear. I believe that Ninja IS in the wrong, with reasoning that is a stretch and a result that is regressive. However, I don't think it comes from a negative place, such that he should be blacklisted from participating in industry events or should be blocked being awarded for industry events, or that the game awards awarding him is problematic for the industry.
It's possible to understand how your partner might feel about something without them explicitly telling you.
His wife doesn't need to tell him outright that she didn't want to be part of internet drama and rumours. He's making this decision on her behalf.
How do you be friends with someone that is okay with Anti LGBT + White supremists? Fuck that.
But Cory isn't friends with Boogie to change his mind, he is friends with him because he enjoys who Boogie is, which is a bigot, or an enabler of bigots.
How many times have people genuinely tried to get through to Boogie to no avail? He genuinely doesn't want to change. It's not ignorance in his case. Stop making excuses for him.
Bullshit, it isn't ignorance, it's just hatred. They know minorities would like to be treated with kindness and respect.
Oh Christ here we go
This isn't ten degrees of separation, this is someone who is known to engage in discrimination (among other things like dropping the N word) to this very day. He's made it clear, he's admitted to it. No, a reasonable person is not going to stand by someone like that, a reasonable person does not want that kind of shit in their life, or to be given a platform.
This just reads as "you should tolerate intolerance".
Sure to a certain extent. I'd say there comes a point, where distancing one self comes the right choice. Not just by the person's own morals, but when you're a public figure like Barlog and people look up to you. Do you publicly send hearts to someone like Boogie, it's easily taken as an endorsement.
Sure I agree about being part of a team, but he also got a personal award at the show for game direction.
Daryl Davis paid bail for one of the Charlotteville Nazis that shot at black protestors. The nazi who was suppose to be "Reformed"
That isn't the only example, and going back to talking these "reformed" people showed they like Davis but haven't changed their views on black people as a whole. So the debate is if he did any good at all or just made new friends
I do fully agree with trying to change someone. I would encourage that 100%. But I don't know if Barlog or Keighley has taken this task regarding Boogie, I unfortunately doubt that. And I wouldn't take that much of an issue if it was strictly a business relationship, since they all work in gaming each at their own fields. But being publicly all buddy-buddy is bit much. Even if they were just trying to be nice.
Dude, he knows. He's openly talked about how people see him as what he is, he doesn't give a shit.
I won't lie. If I were to go off of any Era relationship thread, Occam's Razor would be that Ninja's wife would immediately believe that any woman he spoke to was going to try and sleep with him and he would immediately cheat.
Yep
It's clear that Hobbes is just ignorant and needs to be educated~
First of all, this has been debunked already, and no, irrational fears are not a justification for discrimination.
It's not about his wife getting jealous and his wife hasn't forbidden him from streaming with women.
So your answer is to just keep talking to him in the hopes that he changes, all while he is being shitty and putting his shitty views out there to his huge audience, further giving him more insulation because people will jump at the chance to defend him? That's a better answer than making him feel real consequences for what he says and being forced to change because he is ostracized for being shit? To me, it seems like your philosophy cares more about the person who is "ignorant" than the victims of the ignorance.
While I'm not a fan of the mob mentality that generally results from the demonization of people not because I don't think some people don't deserve it but because it feels a lot of people stop being critical thinkers and just join the flow. Stuff like the James Gunn situation has made me really question if people do actually spend the time to wrestle with their morality to come to their conclusions.
Yeah for me it's just really disappointing. And I wish he would be willing to take few to the chin, because women streamers have it way worse than him. And they should be included and promoted like male streamers are. Though any woman streaming with Ninja would also
"A Mexican man was rude to me once, I just don't associate with Mexicans now, I have a justification".
