Or it's logic with hard data here vs magic and pixie dust over there.
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Avengers: Endgame will not outgross Avatar worldwide. Who will make an avatar bet about that?
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I think it would have taken 20-30 minutes of extra footage, some fan goodies, and potentially an IW + EG marathon in the bigger cities, as well as China, if they really wanted to beat Avatar. They can just hang their hats on highest grossing first-run and call it a day. I still don't know how Avatar made the money it did, but that looks like it's going to stay at the top indefinitely
he wont have to worry about that, pretty sure everyone on the planet has seen avatar
We'll know for certain after this following weekend. It will need to match the gross between $10-12M WW between today and Sunday to still be in the race. Less than that and it's done.
If they do 4 more re-releases with slightly more content each time?
You think the members here are more accurate in their predictions than BOT?
Not really, no. Number of tickets sold is itself flawed for direct comparisons because it fails to take into account shifts in market size.
I'd love to know what went on behind the scenes at Disney/Marvel. The half-assed additions make it seem like maybe Marvel cares, Disney doesn't. Which would make perfect sense, of course.
I feel like that may be the case here.
Will be hilarious if they keep re-releasing this every few months to drag it across. Will be the most absurd ending possible.
I almost disagree with this. The movie market has grown, but I don't think the act of going to the movies itself has grown. In my lifetime, I've never seen anything as popular as Titanic before or since. Titanic, the soundtrack, the memes, the King of the World... it was enormous in a way that nothing has since been.
And before you get any ideas, this is all done without a franchise, Happy Meal tie-ins, cartoons, major stars, etc. It was just a movie that made people want to see something they've never seen before. I feel the same away about Avatar, except that I didn't like the movie and the extra expense of 3D viewing skewed the financials quite a bit.
Assuming that is the case, I'd be surprised to see another re-release. If what happened is that Marvel said "we want to do one" and Disney said "you can spend $10", so they just used the Blu-Ray content. Then if Marvel says "we want to do another", what material would they have to use if Disney says they can't spend any more money?
Accounting for one significant factor instead of all is just as dumb. And you can't account for every significant factor, so we can only go by how the numbers are and have always been reported.
I didn't say anything about growth in the domestic market. I said shifts. Domestically, the market doesn't allow for ticket sales on par with Titanic anymore. Different ticket sales are more impressive in different times. Meanwhile admissions have skyrocketed in other regions. Avatar sold less than Endgame in China, but the market was drastically smaller, so more impressive.
Sure, and adjusted domestic totals has Titanic beating every modern movie, and it's not even close. That's what I'm talking about, because the financials do follow the insanity that was the movie's box office run.
What? Why are you talking about adjusted totals after my post? Adjusting for inflation is just as idiotic as only taking into account tickets sold.
So it wasn't worldwide after all? We're only getting the rerelease here in Brazil on July 11th.
Of course. THR is leaving open the possibility of a later re-release like an Oscar season re-release for example. Then again, Avatar would just overtake Endgame once again with its likely re-release before Avatar 2.
Oscar re-release ain't making 10+ mill anyway. People will have the shit on home video and streaming services at that point.
Time to move on, friends.
It'll be on Disney+ by the time they would do an Oscar re-release
Again, it'll be on Disney+ by then. Why would anyone go see it in theaters?
I highly doubt Endgame will be nominated for anything other than the usual SFX. It won't even win that, not with competition like Lion King.
Fuck it. Let Feige and company be silly and re-release Endgame for Oscar season so that it may make a grand total of $1,530.42. Then, a year later, Disney re-releases Avatar, making more than $200 million, enough to bring it past $3 billion total.
Yeah. Especially in China as Avatar was originally limited by the size of the chinese market (200 million was all time record for the time but far cry from todays numbers). For comparison Titanic re-release made 145 million in China in 2012. Original run was 43 million.
I don't think a theatrical re-release would cannibalize those, even if it made significant money (which it probably wouldn't). People who want to own it would still buy it on Blu-ray or streaming, and Disney+ is much bigger than one movie.
I don't know if an Avatar re-release now would make that much more than its original re-release.
Re-releases just don't make money anymore.
I think we should count the Disney+ subscriptions towards the total
No need to be a dick. I bring it up because I believe in both of those things. And adjusted for inflation is likely closer to number of tickets sold, which was my entire point. Ditto for game sales. I think units sold is more important than revenue, because that's a measure of popularity, not for the shareholders.
Anyway, you do you. Avatar stays winning.
All too true. The scenario I outlined above is more born out of sadistic glee on my part than any truly realistic foresight. But who knows, it might just get a huge surge from the fact that Avatar as an experience is not easy to even begin to replicate at home.
Cameron could re-release Avatar in China alone and already secure Avatar's place as #1 WW from a second Endgame re-release.
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Okay. Do you also account for Hitler when looking at Gone With the Wind's numbers?
that goes without saying, why else would someone sign up for it if not for endgame
Ha! Cameron rubbing it in /s
They probably just hit some major milestone in filming
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