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Avengers: Endgame |Spoiler OT| Let's go get this son of a bitch
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Strange wasnt out there in the trenches dealing the death blows to Thanos. Timing is key too though - his movie was 1.5 years before IW. CM came out a month before Endgame. Like, there were people sitting in the theater for Endgame who had not seen CM yet (hell, I just did recently) because it was so recent and still in theatres. I wonder what those people must have thought when she shows up for the first time (to them) and eventually factors into the final fight in a large way.
I just feel like either CM should have been released earlier, or be released when it did and not feature her prominently until the next team up movie. I dont care who the character is, showing up to save the day after just being introduced to audiences doesnt sit well with me amidst a 10 year saga.
Her appearance in Act 1 was a perfect intro for the audience not yet familiar with CM, and I think it should have been left like that instead of bringing her back in Act 3.
I'll never forgive Alan Horn for the devastation he hath wrought.
I didn't like it when he comes back in hologram form.
Makes me think we are going to have LMD shennanigans
Given how little Carol actually does in Endgame I don't know what the issue is with her role. The most impactful things she does are save Tony and destroy Thanos' ship. She doesn't beat Thanos herself or really do much of anything significant in the battle other than being one of many to keep him from snapping his fingers again. I could see maybe having her role in the final battle replaced with Hulk but I liked it as is. Certainly doesn't hurt for her sequels that she plays a part in what could end up being the biggest movie of all time.
Gunn was fired after Endgame had already wrapped. In any event, Sean Gunn also plays Rocket on set and I don't see how his brother's firing would suddenly lead to his being blacklisted from the production.
Gunn was fired after Endgame had already wrapped. In any event, Sean Gunn also plays Rocket on set and I don't see how his brother's firing would suddenly lead to his being blacklisted from the production.
I thought it made sense that he would make a farewell message in hologram form. Gave it some closure. Highly doubt he'll return cuz RDJ is pretty much done with the movies and I'm not sure they would bring him back. Would really ruin his death.
First, Doctor Strange was one of the stars and main focuses of Infinity War. He was more effective against Thanos as anyone else, other than arguably Iron Man who got a scratch off. He was the only character who gave the audience any hope after Infinity War.
Captain Marvel had three short hero moments in Endgame: she destroyed Thanos' ship, she was 1 out of a handful of people to escort the gauntlet, and she stopped 1 out of the 3 snap attempts.
Second, you're concerned about her exposure to audiences compared to Doctor Strange? Her solo movie has DOUBLE the box office numbers than his movie! He controls time and does space magic, she flies and glows with fire.
Your concern is absurd.
Honestly think having both weapons was a liability rather than an asset. Thor hasn't exactly trained to use both weapons at once prior to fighting Thanos and he knocked Iron Man out of the three on one fight using both weapons together.
How would Thor even exercise? Would he have to tow asteroids around or something? Like regular exercise is meaningless to someone with his base strength.
After a third rewatch, maybe this has been asked already but here goes: How did Clint manage to end up with the soul stone? I know it's "a soul for a soul" and all, but the point is that you yourself have to let go of what's most important to you, and he clearly didn't do that - Natasha and him even fought over who won't have to let go.
Thanos on the other hand threw Gamora himself, he clearly showed the will to go through with it. Shouldn't Skull have been all like "Naw dude, you didn't do shit to earn this thing"?
Thanos on the other hand threw Gamora himself, he clearly showed the will to go through with it. Shouldn't Skull have been all like "Naw dude, you didn't do shit to earn this thing"?
I think Hulk got his moment to shine when he survived wearing the gauntlet & bringing back half of all life in the universe. He may not have got his hands dirty in a fist fight, but Hulk did one of the most heroic things in the film questioning until the moment he snapped his fingers that even the Gamma in his body might not let him survive using the stones.
The mcu isn't like the comic if an actor is done with the role, it's done
Saw the movie last night. I loved it, great ending for this jouney that Marvel started 10 years ago.
The first 2/3 of the movie were a little slow for me, until there I was thinking that IW was better, but the last act with the final battle, holy shit that was amazing.
People here cheered the most when Cap took Mjölnir, but also throught the battle, and the "Avengers, assemble!", oh man
For me it was the perfect ending for Tony, really powerful scene, that got me good, and would have been even better if MY OWN GIRLFRIEND hadn't spoiled that for me, lol. This spoiler was going so rampant that she thought that I knew about that too. I had heard about it, but then she confirmed it. Oh well, it still was great. Gonna watch it again this weekend.
Now I wonder what comes next, who will be the next big villain and if and/or how they are going to introduce the X-Men, Fantastic Four and the rest of the Marvel cast, now that they have all the rights.
The first 2/3 of the movie were a little slow for me, until there I was thinking that IW was better, but the last act with the final battle, holy shit that was amazing.
People here cheered the most when Cap took Mjölnir, but also throught the battle, and the "Avengers, assemble!", oh man
For me it was the perfect ending for Tony, really powerful scene, that got me good, and would have been even better if MY OWN GIRLFRIEND hadn't spoiled that for me, lol. This spoiler was going so rampant that she thought that I knew about that too. I had heard about it, but then she confirmed it. Oh well, it still was great. Gonna watch it again this weekend.
Now I wonder what comes next, who will be the next big villain and if and/or how they are going to introduce the X-Men, Fantastic Four and the rest of the Marvel cast, now that they have all the rights.
He lost someone he loved, he now gets the stone. Simple. That's all that needs to be done, anything else is just making up rules that were never stated.
She is supposed to be the strongest though. Also, the post credit scene in Infinity War was kind of set up something special with this character. Until this point, Nick Fury never felt a need to call this character. Only now, it's like losing in Street Fighter or some other fighting game while experimenting as a character but then you pick your main and fight. So it's only expected that she would have a large impact. Nick Fury was pulling out his trap card and it was meant to generate hype.
I would say he just saved the day across both movies :P
I read a lot and I'm going by the MCU/contract logic over the comics. They would need to use his likeness if they did that.
That was a nice touch. I know people bag on her changing accent, but one of my co-workers is from Africa, and he generally has no detectable accent, but as soon as he's drinking or excited, his accent gets really heavy again. For the longest time I had no idea he wasn't American until we were at a party one night and he had a few drinks in him and his natural accent came through.
Having Scarlett Witch's accent come back in that moment was a great little detail. I wonder if it was her or the Russo's or screenwriters that came up with that.
That's true. But seeing some payoff to the smack down he received from Thanos in the last movie would have been a nice way to tie back to that movie. That's literally what these movies are all about and constantly strive for. Suggesting that Huk be involved in the struggle against Thanos at the end is just an observation for how that could have been done. I even prefaced my comment before by saying I didn't mind what they did, I just think Hulk being there instead would have improved the scene (for me).
I'm almost 100% certain Tony Stark comes back in a cameo/hologram/AI/Skrull/timetravel role. If you pay him 10M for a day's work of voicework or casual footage he'll do it.
Likeness makes it even easier. Just use his face/voice over CG/mocap actor and he doesn't even have to come into the studio. Just get a paycheque.
I wonder how surprising his death was though. Like the trailer is making his situation look really bleak, there's news that this is his last Marvel movie...it just seemed so obvious that he was going to have some dramatic exit. I wonder if many people were surprised or just not surprised.
Finally got to watch it, loved it.
If anything, I feel Carol should have had more screen time. I was like "That's it?" Wasted chance, but I guess they can't have strongest Avenger saving their asses so she had to be kicked off to other planets (legit reason I know).
The beginning when they cut Thanos' head surprised me lol. My fave moments were the parent talks with Thor and Tony, Capt's "Hail Hydra", Capt using Thor's hammer, Tony's "I'm Ironman", and beer belly Thor haha. I'm sure there are others.
The final big battle, the entrance scene was awesome, but the battle itself was just okay I thought.
Also RDJ kills it with this movie, his meltdown at the beginning and his death at the end were gut wrenching.
If anything, I feel Carol should have had more screen time. I was like "That's it?" Wasted chance, but I guess they can't have strongest Avenger saving their asses so she had to be kicked off to other planets (legit reason I know).
The beginning when they cut Thanos' head surprised me lol. My fave moments were the parent talks with Thor and Tony, Capt's "Hail Hydra", Capt using Thor's hammer, Tony's "I'm Ironman", and beer belly Thor haha. I'm sure there are others.
The final big battle, the entrance scene was awesome, but the battle itself was just okay I thought.
Also RDJ kills it with this movie, his meltdown at the beginning and his death at the end were gut wrenching.
Your defensiveness about someone's opinion on how the movie ended is absurd.
They could probably just do the thing from the comics where he's a hologram AI thing but I dunno if they're willing to do that. Who knows. If the next phase doesn't do as well without him, they could pay him to do voicework, like you said.
Speaking of SW, I'm super pumped for her show as we finally got to see her let loose. She damn near wrecked Thanos and forced him to sacrifice his troops to try and stop her.
Iirc The requirement wasn't to murder someone he loved. Someone he loved needed to be sacrificed.
Scarlet Witch was definitely amongst my favs in Endgame. She was not fucking around.
I wasn't commenting on their opinion of the movie.
I was criticizing the idea "I said captain marvel would have too much presence in the movie and others said to calm down, but boy was I right!"
But yes, because the device on his wrist enables him to return to his own timeline. It's exactly how the other avengers were able to return. They return the stones to their proper places at the right moment, and in the right timelines.
The thing with Loki happened in a different timeline, so it doesn't affect the main timeline at all.
Since my post I've learned the Russo brothers have confirmed what I've said.
Cap have the time travel wristband gps where it stores the future time/space coordinate he came from.
She had the Pym particles and the memory of future Nebula who helped make the machine/ suit that got them there . The shrunk Thanon's ship and navigated the Q realm like the suit was supposed to do.
I'd say that the Ebony Maw studied the Pym Particles they took off future Nebula & was able to recreate them to travel through the Quantum Realm to the future when 2014 Nebula activated the platform.
I would personally have liked to see her do more, but given the stakes and powersets they did a good enough job nerfing her and Thor both so that it wouldn't seem quite so ridiculous. Logically there's no reason she couldn't just fly in and crack Thanos in half or any other number of pieces, but doing that is less dramatic and just kind of silly. At least the buildup of her coming back was great, for me.
*shooting stops*
Me: "Here she comes..!"
*cannons point away and start shooting at nothing*
Me: "Here she comes!!"
Rhodey: "I just detected something entering the atmosphere really fast"
Me: "GODDAMMIT I KNOW RHODEY! SHE'S COMING TO SAVE YOUR ASS!"
*cue everything exploding*
Tony's melt down at the beginning was, indeed, excellent. He also looked super weak and frail from clearly not eating or drinking enough and was just mentally drained from the fight and then trying to survive. It's also kind of a shame we didn't get a moment, maybe, between Nebula and Pepper because he's absolutely right. Hell, I was kind of detecting a bit of jealousy from Nebula when she looked at Tony and Pepper hugging when they got back.
She gave Thanos a vial of pym particles... probably had Maw make more of them after studying them so they had enough to go around. Thanos has all the 'time' in the world to prepare since Nebulas watch is synced up to return to the right moment then pull them out. So they executed the plan once they had enough pym particles. Thanos got arrogant though thinking about his destiny and being inevitable. He should have spend more time preparing. He rushed his plan which led to his defeat.
They should have thrown in a quick scene of Ebony Maw working on the tech because Thanos doesn't have a bracelet to get through
His main role is to take on Thanos, which he gets his ass kicked at pretty soundly. He does the 3v1 vs thanos with Cap and Ironman, then he takes out mooks during the charge with after the assembly, then he is part of the sequence that delays Thanos from getting the gauntlet.
Honestly, I know he's not at his best, but as a fan of Thor, it's hard to see him be someone who just doesn't get that many good hits in. Like, I really would ahve liked if that one bit where he his Mjolnir with Stormbreaker like a baseball, it hits Ironman instead, and basically everything they try against him fails. Which wouldn't be SO bad if Captain America didn't then pick up Mjolnir and basically fight way better with it than Thor.
Maw reverse engineer it and Nebula opened portal so they can get through to this specific future. If Nebula didn't open the portal, they would've arrived at their future.
finally watched it yesterday
i shouldn't have hyped myself up for this. i enjoyed it a lot, but i think i need to rewatch it on demand when it comes out. some things probably didnt stick with me and i dont remember some things.
my highlights
- ironman
- Cap
- Cap vs cap
- Cap vs Thanos
- Thor humor
- thanos's power level lol
- spiderman
- ironmans snap/death scene with spiderman
- thors humor lol
dislikes
- rat mvp
- no luis with antman
- brucehulk personality
- gamora's instant change of heart because of a few sentences
- black widow
- war machine's screentime, what are we getting more movies of him with ironwoman now?
- is there ironwoman now?
- wish the battle scene was longer, just a little bit.
- captain marvel is just op. i believe she could have handled thanos and his army by herself. without the stone to punch her, she would have ended him right there.
when it started to get into time travel, idk, that's where it kind of lost me on feeling their struggle.. =/
RDJ was amazing though. big ups on his acting chops in this movie.
amazing glorification of cap, his combo with M was great to watch. however, this just showed me thanos was just beyond any of the avengers in power and was the ultimate badass. buuut, captain marvel is op and the "unexpected" use of the stone to get her off him was meh.
i did not enjoy how some of the children of thanos went out so easy during the battle. like wow, just get stepped on and that's it? and that quick gamora change of heart, idk. that felt way to easy. i was expecting a bit more before she decided to help. but is she dead now? quill going to look for her in the next guardians of the galaxy? I enjoyed the funny stuff from thor though lol.
i realllly didnt care about the extra screentime warmachine got. antman felt forced. The rat though, the real mvp. bruce hulk didnt work for me. but i guess it was meant to be because of the snap he could handle.
the death of black widow for the soulstone didnt make me sad. I didnt know they loved each other, what? lol i guess i missed that in all of the movies. Nat just looked like she wanted to die in this movie lol.
after seeing this movie, i can see the next few movies occurring the 5 year time skip with black widow and 'ronin'. i'm excited to see spider man though.
right now with my first watch, great, but i think Ragnarok is still above it as my fav movie so far.
i shouldn't have hyped myself up for this. i enjoyed it a lot, but i think i need to rewatch it on demand when it comes out. some things probably didnt stick with me and i dont remember some things.
my highlights
- ironman
- Cap
- Cap vs cap
- Cap vs Thanos
- Thor humor
- thanos's power level lol
- spiderman
- ironmans snap/death scene with spiderman
- thors humor lol
dislikes
- rat mvp
- no luis with antman
- brucehulk personality
- gamora's instant change of heart because of a few sentences
- black widow
- war machine's screentime, what are we getting more movies of him with ironwoman now?
- is there ironwoman now?
- wish the battle scene was longer, just a little bit.
- captain marvel is just op. i believe she could have handled thanos and his army by herself. without the stone to punch her, she would have ended him right there.
when it started to get into time travel, idk, that's where it kind of lost me on feeling their struggle.. =/
RDJ was amazing though. big ups on his acting chops in this movie.
amazing glorification of cap, his combo with M was great to watch. however, this just showed me thanos was just beyond any of the avengers in power and was the ultimate badass. buuut, captain marvel is op and the "unexpected" use of the stone to get her off him was meh.
i did not enjoy how some of the children of thanos went out so easy during the battle. like wow, just get stepped on and that's it? and that quick gamora change of heart, idk. that felt way to easy. i was expecting a bit more before she decided to help. but is she dead now? quill going to look for her in the next guardians of the galaxy? I enjoyed the funny stuff from thor though lol.
i realllly didnt care about the extra screentime warmachine got. antman felt forced. The rat though, the real mvp. bruce hulk didnt work for me. but i guess it was meant to be because of the snap he could handle.
the death of black widow for the soulstone didnt make me sad. I didnt know they loved each other, what? lol i guess i missed that in all of the movies. Nat just looked like she wanted to die in this movie lol.
after seeing this movie, i can see the next few movies occurring the 5 year time skip with black widow and 'ronin'. i'm excited to see spider man though.
right now with my first watch, great, but i think Ragnarok is still above it as my fav movie so far.
As someone who was critical of her accent going in and out, I can totally buy this and now recant my criticism. It does make sense that when she's super emotional her accent comes back in.
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