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Avengers: Endgame |Spoiler OT| Let's go get this son of a bitch
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We're just getting to the real power heroes, fam. Adam Warlock, Marvel, Dr. Strange, Spider-man, Fantastic 4, BP, Dr. Doom...and we're finally about to get some *high-quality* X-Men universe stuff with WETA digital doing the vfx?
We haven't even gotten to the Marvel entree yet.
Cap stole 4 vials of Pym Particles when all he needed was two. Even assuming he needed to use one of his stolen pym particles to go back in time and not just ask the Pym Family for more he still had an extra vial to come back when he wanted to.
In the comics, Carol and Rhodey are often in a relationship, and they gave a very subtle nod to that during the... hologram meeting scene? Not sure what to call it, but the scene where Nat is talking to everyone via holograms and Carol says something to Rhodey that infers there's some type of relationship going on there.
Wouldn't have made sense unfortunately, since only the people who had been dusted were brought back. Though I'm not sure what was stopping Bruce from bringing back... you know, everyone who had died in these movies?
Loved the movie. It isn't perfect, has some questionable bits, but over-all an incredibly satisfying climax & send-off to the MCU.
I know the MCU will continue but this feels like a perfect ending.
And speaking of future MCU, I think this movie convinced me that either Brie Larson was miscast, the character Captain Marvel sucks or some combo of both.
Captain Marvel was one of the biggest things that just didn't work at all for me in this movie. She had no chemistry with the other characters and ultimately exists solely as a Deus Ex Machina. Very dissapointing and not at all interested in her future in this franchise. She completely lacks depth once removed from her origin story. Her "win button" powers are so boring and I was really hoping the Russo's would get more from her character than the duo that directed her solo film. Her whole squinty-eyed sarcastic vocal fry affectation lacks charisma.
And no, let's not turn this into something it isn't. Every other female character in the film is more compelling. Even Valkyrie, who has even more of a bit role.
I know the MCU will continue but this feels like a perfect ending.
And speaking of future MCU, I think this movie convinced me that either Brie Larson was miscast, the character Captain Marvel sucks or some combo of both.
Captain Marvel was one of the biggest things that just didn't work at all for me in this movie. She had no chemistry with the other characters and ultimately exists solely as a Deus Ex Machina. Very dissapointing and not at all interested in her future in this franchise. She completely lacks depth once removed from her origin story. Her "win button" powers are so boring and I was really hoping the Russo's would get more from her character than the duo that directed her solo film. Her whole squinty-eyed sarcastic vocal fry affectation lacks charisma.
And no, let's not turn this into something it isn't. Every other female character in the film is more compelling. Even Valkyrie, who has even more of a bit role.
The reason everything had to be returned wasn't for their future selves, it was because those dimensions/timelines need their stones to stay in them for whatever reason like The Ancient One said. Easiest way to think about it is this, every time they time traveled they created another timeline or dimension that was different from ours from that point on. Once they were done with the stones Cap jumped back into the timelines they had already created and returned their stones, as well as Thor's hammer, a few seconds after they had initially taken them. This doesn't mean it erased the timeline and put it back on track with ours, just that they weren't in any danger due to not having their stones. So Loki taking the cube is only something that happens in that specific dimension/timeline, not the main MCU one or any of the others that were made. Sorry if that doesn't make much sense but that's how I understood it.
Thank you sir. Didn't think they'd leave a plot point like that hanging out there.
Just got back, so many issue with the whole story. I did not hate it. It was enjoyable but going by my initial reaction, it was no where near as good as Infinity War.
Either time travel stuff is completely flawed or I just didn't get it. and the one thing that bugged me the most was how powerful Thanos was without the stone.
Either time travel stuff is completely flawed or I just didn't get it. and the one thing that bugged me the most was how powerful Thanos was without the stone.
Thanos is much more terrifying in this, they did away with any notion of him being sympathetic. "I'm absolutely going to obliterate your existence now."
I never catch myself mistyping Scarlett Witch and Scarlett Johansson. I meant Nat.
The timeline where 2014 Thanos died still remains meaning that the snap never happened in that timeline.
There has to be alternate timelines. Loki with the space Stone and the timeline where Thanos and Nebula disappear from 2014
WHAT IF old Steve is hiding in the backgrounds of the previous Marvel movies already??
Did you miss the scenes between Hulk and The Ancient One? He explains to her that they're going to bring the stones back mere moments from when they took them. Cap also took Mjolnir back too.
based on many people who I have interacted with
seems like the consensus is moving more towards Infinity War> Endgame
seems like the consensus is moving more towards Infinity War> Endgame
I think, the only timeline not "screwed up" is the one Thor and Rocket went to. A relatively safe journey, in and out with the stone.
The other 2 trips ended up Loki disappearing with the Space stone, while the other no longer has Thanos/His Army/Gamora/Nebula in it's existence, as they died/got left in the future (different reality). The latter reality is probably the best potential reality, but it isn't the same one as "the real one".
The ending battle is like fan service on fan service on fan service. I can't imagine a spectacle like that ever being topped.
Also enjoyed all the GotG love. It's such a fun universe.
"Yes, yes, fight with knives!"
Also enjoyed all the GotG love. It's such a fun universe.
"Yes, yes, fight with knives!"
I don't know about consensus, but that is certainly a fair opinion to have. It was a tigher, faster movie and each fight and interaction with Thanos was significant, and with what felt like much more at stake.
Cap literally goes back and creates a new timeline by living out a life with Peggy.
You know what's funny about that "Back to the Future is bullshit" line? The movie actually uses the exact same time travel principle as Back to the Future 2.
The only difference being that they can actually return to the original timeline, while in BttF 2 Marty got stuck in the timeline post-alteration.
The only difference being that they can actually return to the original timeline, while in BttF 2 Marty got stuck in the timeline post-alteration.
time is different between timelines...
a few minutes may have happened between the avengers that came back from the time travel and hulk's snap but that 'few minutes' might be months in 2014 thanos timeline for him to replicate or reverse engineer the pym particles.
I mean he bodied hulk at the start of IW without using the single stone he had at that point.
This explanation works until Old Cap is considered. If time travel created separate timelines then he should not grow old in a timeline where Thanos snapped.
The Loki one remained, yes. The one where Thanos traveled to the future should be gone, because Cap reset the Power Stone. But you could argue it's still out there, since the timeline had already branched before they got their hands on the stone.
It's never made 100% clear. At this point, we can hope the Russo's clear some of it up in a Q&A, or just accept the premise of Cap's mission worked.
the only character that appeared to be CG face'd was 70s Hank. That shit was TERRIBLE.
But shouldn't he be in a different timeline/reality? Some of them surely ended up mostly the same as the main timeline, but the 2014 one and the 2012 avengers realities got changed, and based on the rules of the movie, he would be in a new timeline. Unless I suppose, he came back to see them off?
It'll probably get cleared up within the next week or two, but honestly it's the only small issue I actually had with their time travel logic.
This only rams home the importance for me of seeing these films early at the cinema. 99% of the people in attendance are as invested in the world as you are, the jokes hit big time, the references get lapped up, and you're among people rooting for the same things as you.
Go and watch Endgame in two weeks, you get a cinema full of people there because its something to do, and you ain't gonna get the response that Cap lifting Mjolnir drew this week.
It seems like the most clear-cut direction forward for any franchise in the MCU is with GotG3, Thor, Adam Warlock and a mission to save Gamora. And maybe Widow!
That's by far the most tantalising prospect any of these franchises can offer right now, IMO.
Just came back from the movie, will post more here later. I haven't gone through the thread but I'm sure most things that I have to talk about have already been said. But one moment I really liked was when T'Challa called Clint by his real name, considering their exchange in Civil War.
God I love this movie.
God I love this movie.
but that was Hulk alone, here we had literally everyone and not to mention CM and Thor on steroid with thanos killing weapon.
People joke about Americans being loud at movies,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezn2vPsRonE
Jesus Christ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezn2vPsRonE
Jesus Christ
The ancient one suggests the changes made create new timeline which would be off track if the stones were taken.
So if steve goes back then old man steve can't be in their timeline if he created a new one. The whole point of returning the stones and the hammer is so that nothing changed, meaning no new timeline, these were events that always happened.
Therefor if steve held onto his shield then it wouldn't be available to use in endgame.
I loved Captain Marvel in this. Character design, larson's performance, screen presence. It was all awesome to me. She has to be used sparingly since she is so op- they did it exactly right.
If we measure the film in payoffs alone it was one of the most satisfying experiences of my life.
It's a flawed movie, like all MCU movies, and you could easily pull it apart, but god damn is it an amazing experience.
I'm so happy I'm not in the US. This kind of reaction would annoy me greatly. The noise overpowers the sound of the damn movie.
The reception Spider-Man continues to get at any of these movies whenever he shows up still amazes me
I still stand by the idea that if Toby McGuire had a cameo it'd be the loudest reaction to any moment out of any of these movies. People would literally explode.
I still stand by the idea that if Toby McGuire had a cameo it'd be the loudest reaction to any moment out of any of these movies. People would literally explode.
Wasn't quite sure how far back he went to be with Peggy. I believe there were older cars in the street in front of their house, older than 1970, which was the furthest back anyone of them went. He had to make a special trip further back for that.
Now, he could have gotten snapped for those 5 years, but I have to assume the stone would leave him like it did Young Cap (reading them as "the same person"), if Cap actually did grow old and stayed in the "main" reality.
I can now appreciate applause in a cinema after last night, but yeah a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
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