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Avengers: Endgame |Spoiler OT| Let's go get this son of a bitch
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These films are always going to sideline the most OP characters in some way (think Xavier in X-Men for another example). It has to serve the larger narrative. Hulk is just too OP and having Thanos hand him a beat down in the very opening of IW was always going to have a lasting effect.
Maybe the highlight of the movie for me, theatre was absolutely hype and this is Australia where theaters are never hype. Thanos headbutting Carol and thunk'ing against her was also top tier. Dissapointed that my girl wasn't in the movie more but I get why and know she'll get her time to shine.
Most of the run time.
Dusted characters return to the fight with like...20ish minutes remaining (not including credits).
The Netherlands here and last night was the first time the audience ever clapped during a film and it was during that scene. I thought Carol was still influential, even with her little screentime.
I was very lukewarm on Iron Man 1, Incredible Hulk was soild but I wasn't sure where they'd take the character in the grand scheme of things. Captain America was was hooked me into the MCU, I'm not a huge Marvel fan (DC guy, don't kill me lol) I did read a lot of Spider-man, X-Men comics........ but Captain America will forever be my favourite Marvel comic character.
With what happened to Steve Rogers in ENDGAME, I don't really have a vested interest in the MCU going forward. It's been an incredible ride over the last 10 years.
I loved Infinity War for shaking up the traditional Marvel movie formula (also having the bad guy winning = AMAZING/AWESOME/ALL THE GOOD THINGS).
Endgame was great for various reasons, the call backs to the events of past movies, the humour was in the right spots of the film and hit the right note. The emotional moments between certain characters was A+. The story itself was good. The real test of the film's appeal will be how it stacks up on repeat viewings.
With what happened to Steve Rogers in ENDGAME, I don't really have a vested interest in the MCU going forward. It's been an incredible ride over the last 10 years.
I loved Infinity War for shaking up the traditional Marvel movie formula (also having the bad guy winning = AMAZING/AWESOME/ALL THE GOOD THINGS).
Endgame was great for various reasons, the call backs to the events of past movies, the humour was in the right spots of the film and hit the right note. The emotional moments between certain characters was A+. The story itself was good. The real test of the film's appeal will be how it stacks up on repeat viewings.
Thors scenes were more hype in IW but with Evans and Ironman leaving they gave the screen time to the other two. Thor was greatly under-utilised in this one. His entrance to wakanda and his fight scenes were amazing
All of them were filming scenes for several weeks all across the Europe. They are still Peter's classmates.
I don't know if I could sit through that first 1.3 hours of EG again myself
Thor shined a lot in IW, especially at the end as you mentioned, so I wasn't surprised with the little influence he had in Endgame. I loved the Cap moment even more than the Thor Wakanda moment though.
Are all of his classmates really there? A class is from 20 to 30 people, as long as those 5 or 6 Peter usually interacts with were dusted with him the difference won't be noticed
Convenient that none of the original Avengers were dusted.
Because the MJ in Homecoming was confirmed to not be an adaption of Mary Jane Watson.
It sounds exactly like how we speculated despite posters saying it isn't a loop and it works well. It really doesn't because this kills Cap's character. We're being told Cap went back in time and sat through every single event doing nothing. Yes it wouldn't have changed the MCU we know but it still would have changed the reality he himself is living in.
Add in Peggy's lines in Winter Soldier makes this even more fucked up.
Right, but it's the MJ for this Spider-Man. There isn't another one. It would be monumentally dumb to conceal who and where she was until the end of that movie, only to blow it off and have some classic looking red head take over.
I don't agree. Steve not interfering simply means that he makes sure that the reality he is living in is the reality he knows, a reality in which the Avengers overcame all obstacles and won. This way he knows that the falcon and Bucky he will meet as an old man are the exact same Falcon and Bucky that he fought with. Any interference will cause a new branch in reality with consequences that are impossible to determine.
It's just not in his character not to interfere. Also what's even the point of restoring the stones to the timeline afterwards?
So they don't create 6 doomed timelines
It's just not in his character not to interfere. Also what's even the point of restoring the stones to the timeline afterwards?
You can't change the past, cap accepts the state of the world in the "present", in the end they succeeded and it's all that matters
I'm kind of stunned by all the praise that Hemsworth has been getting, I've loved him in these movies in the past but I seriously thought he was pretty excruciating here. Also in a completely different movie than everyone else, but that's more of a Russo tone management issue than a Hemsworth issue.
Returning stones where they should means there are no more Infinity stones in the real timeline.
It's just not in his character not to interfere. Also what's even the point of restoring the stones to the timeline afterwards?
It's just not in his character not to interfere. Also what's even the point of restoring the stones to the timeline afterwards?
Another facet of Steve's character is his tactical expertise. He now has advance knowledge that things will work out pretty well if he stays out of the fight this time, so I can buy a scenario in which he commits himself to lifelong non-interference on the basis that he's already made the world a better place. This would also resolve his "man out of time" problem, for what it's worth.
In a story that features talking trees and gun-crazed raccoons, that isn't such a stretch.
Idk, maybe they'll say that Hydra won or Tony was killed with his parents or something if Cap didn't stay in the past or really didn't interfere.
Like his interference was always a part of history.
Like his interference was always a part of history.
It's just not in his character not to interfere. Also what's even the point of restoring the stones to the timeline afterwards?
These are essentially the rules for time travelling for the MCU. It doesn't matter if Cap went back and stopped 9/11 or Hydra taking over. All he would have done is create alternate timelines where those things don't happen. It doesn't effect "our" MCU timeline.
He knows going back and doing stuff doesn't actually change anything in the main timeline since he's seen what happens. He knows that they win in the end.
I didnt love fat suit Thor. But I can see how people can.
I liked Thor in all the other movies. He's almost like the comic relief here the way he was stumbling around still drunk in asgard. There's a weirdness to his character that doesn't quite gel. By the time travelling part of the movie, he should have been less idiotic.
I would guess that Hemsworth's disaffection with the Avengers films may have played a part in this characterisation. He wants to bow out gracefully and hand over the space of most prominent Asgardian to Tessa Thompson as Valkyrie.
my cinema was crying a lot. I was weeping when he died.
I didnt care for black widow.
So finished watching it earlier today, good movie. Felt they could have changed the name to Captain America though as the story just really revolved him.
Was disappointed we didn't see more of Captain Marvel.
Does anyone know who was the young guy at the funeral scene of Tony (not Spiderman)
Was disappointed we didn't see more of Captain Marvel.
Does anyone know who was the young guy at the funeral scene of Tony (not Spiderman)
Welp, the credits are rolling on my part, what a freakin' journey it has been, I will partake in the discussion, when I've rested my eyes a bit.
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young guy was the young boy from iron man 3. I only know because I read this thread. Otherwise, woosh.
young guy was the young boy from iron man 3. I only know because I read this thread. Otherwise, woosh.
In my mind I'm seeing the guy who wrote Tank Girl: Odyssey asked to collaborate on a script for Thor 4.
It was bruce banner talkng to the anicent one though. Not Hulk. Even then, by this movie, there's no more hulk hulk. Bruce is fully in control of the Hulk now.
Something with the movies never explored until now. Hulk's been doing that in comics for decades. There's plenty more other Hulk personalities out there. Like Joe Fixit and the Maestro.
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Just saw a cam version of the movie online. I don't have a theater in my town and the only other good cinema is in El Paso 3 hours away. I don't have the time or money to travel that far.
But I will say holy shit it was amazing! Will definitely buy the Shit out of the home release. And maybe Disney will do an entire Phase 1-3 special box set in December.
I will for sure be telling my friends to go in blind.
Damn
I'm still reeling from the end. An end of an era.
But I will say holy shit it was amazing! Will definitely buy the Shit out of the home release. And maybe Disney will do an entire Phase 1-3 special box set in December.
I will for sure be telling my friends to go in blind.
Damn
I'm still reeling from the end. An end of an era.
Not a massive MCU fan and have only seen a few movies but really enjoyed this. Favourite moment was probably either Tony's 👌🏻 or Strange's ☝️
Me too man. Was really hoping in the final battle, it was Bruce who did what Carol Denvers did. It's really unfair that all OG Avengers got to shine in their respective parts, but Bruce was more of a comic relief and didn't get to do much action-wise in IW and this. Is it too much to ask for Hulk to go "HULK SMASH" one more time?
it's plausible that shield classified all of that to preserve the timeline
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