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Avengers: Age of Ultron is so deeply sexist, it's blowing my mind.
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we have our own opinion
do not compare us to Neogaf. We stay here for a good reason, same as yours.
I think it's time to stop posting. Your thread backfired and it happens sometimes. People don't agree with your take and you don't seem to want to understand why at all so I think this thread is over. Having a tantrum isn't going to help.
This is actually true. It's that meme with Chris Evans throwing his head back and laughing. What caused him to laugh so hard was the person he was interviewing with (I think it was Renner?) called Natasha a slut.
is that "so" bad? I don't even remmeber that scene.
Makes me think about the "inclusive writing" in France.
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She didn't need to reveal her sterility to him, she didn't need to be sterile at all, the conversation didn't need to go there anyways. If she really was relating to him being a monster because she's an assassin, then there was no need for the sterility point to come up in the dialogue. But the fact that sterility is her intro into her monster speech is indicative of the general tone of the movie to me.
Can you link to these please? You should also add those to the OP at they seem essential to your point. I only watched it once and I got Assassin stripped of humanity rhetorical monster vs actual green literal monster. But those interviews sound like more background.
That is an interpretation of the scene that's been around since it first came out. It tells me the scene was handled messily, but I absolutely dont agree with that reading.
This is the scene I had the most issue with in the movie, but luckily it was short. It's amazing that Whedon got to do this gag twice in both a Marvel and DC movie.
The other small thing that annoyed is that Black Widow is the character that Ultron captures. I feel like that was calling back to the fact that they didn't want to make Hawkeye the one "missing" from the team again, and she got picked, unfortunately.
My sister is sterile.
She can't have a baby.
When i saw that scene i was thinking "thanks god, a blockbuster movie talking about this issue and how women can feel about this".
Lots of people misreading this scene, that's on you. And also don't say actors said vile shit and not have something to back it up with.
Also it's the character's personal feelings. Doesn't mean it's true or even okay, it's just how they feel.
are you even reading the thread? lmao
bruce no children. natasha no children. common ground no children.
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Again, Bruce literally talks about how she wont be able to have a family with him, why would she then only talk about how she used to be an assassin?
Matt has already made her argumentation more than clear:
As has been explained to you, she only brought up the sterilization because Bruce brought up that he couldn't have kids. Bruce brought that up because he didn't want to deprive her of that future if that's what she wanted. She responded that she can't have that future either, so it isn't a problem.
You're looking to be upset, but there's nothing there.
See, this is an example of a dumb trope that can be criticized.
I don't know if I'd call it inherently sexist and harmful because it's played for laughs and works with men too kind of like this scene in Christmas vacation, but it can certainly be criticized.
Instead we've got weak-sauce stuff like OP that had been thoroughly dismissed 4 years ago.
Here's the slut/whore interview, for those who are asking.
First question asked, and the answer.
Not that it's relevant to this scene at all.
First question asked, and the answer.
Not that it's relevant to this scene at all.
You are ignoring the whole "I can't have kids anyway so that's not a reason for us to not be together" thing.
Which is the entire impudence for the sterilization reveal.
No. No no no. It's still a terrible movie, but not for the reason you manufactured out of thin air.
Feels like OP derailed his own thread by saying "slut" without any accurate context as to why that word was used.
Seems like aren't really interested in opposing view points which is the core of "good discussion"
You misread the scene, completely and even ignored the official explanation on it as well. And the dialogue in the opening at the bar with Rogers and Banner? That was in reference to Winter Soldier. Seriously, are people this bad at paying attention?
Outrage culture (false one at that) has made almost completely ignore social media except for news and friends. You stayed up thinking about something in a fictional movie that you misinterpreted (two scenes and...Disney interviews where they never call her a "slut"?)? My lord.
Outrage culture (false one at that) has made almost completely ignore social media except for news and friends. You stayed up thinking about something in a fictional movie that you misinterpreted (two scenes and...Disney interviews where they never call her a "slut"?)? My lord.
I bring a good point
no one cares
this is why i always feel alone at a sociologist teacher.... Everyone doing a debate about "YOU ARE LEFT" "YOU ARE RIGHT" like we are in a star wars debate about "you are a jedi" "you are a sith"
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