For real lol. Its message is not subtle.
I must have some insane bias (due to not liking the first film) but I just don't think these look great.
I didn't like the writing in the movie, but Avatar couldn't have been more direct about it's message.
It had something to say the problem was that what it had to say was very on the nose. Conquering other people's land to exploit it and steal their resources and destroying their way of life is bad. Then they added a white savior.
lolHow about the writing? I hope it is improved over the first Avatar. The first movie was a pretty picture with nothing to say.
Cameron basically copied the screenplay from "Dances With Wolves".
Might have been direct about it, but its ideas could've been inscribed on the head of a pin. Not exactly profound.I didn't like the writing in the movie, but Avatar couldn't have been more direct about it's message.
Saying that the movie had nothing to say is just plain wrong lmao
But seriously who is excited for this movie? The first was widely panned aside from "looks good".
Honestly I was expecting photorealistic CG this time around. The alien skin just looks too fake and poorly lit. Environments still look good though.
One of the cutscenes for the first movie has 20 million views on youtube in a year. You tell me.
But did you love it?
I have a hard time wrapping my head around the fanbase for Avatar. I don't think I have ever heard any acquaintance mention being a fan of it. In fact, it never gets brought up at all outside of discussions of 3D movie technology or box office rankings.
How about the writing? I hope it is improved over the first Avatar. The first movie was a pretty picture with nothing to say.
If already reclaimed that title last year.It was the best-selling movie ever made for a decade (and will probably pick that title back when it's re-released in theaters).
Of course it has fans.
Tons of people paying inflated prices to see it in 3D doesn't mean there are just as many fans. Don't be dense.It was the best-selling movie ever made for a decade (and will probably pick that title back when it's re-released in theaters).
Of course it has fans.
A movie with nothing to say.Might have been direct about it, but its ideas could've been inscribed on the head of a pin. Not exactly profound.
lord people here truly make their own realities up in their head.But seriously who is excited for this movie? The first was widely panned aside from "looks good".
Yes, they grew the Navi in a lab.
A movie with nothing to say.
I wish more blockbusters had as nothing to say as Avatar.
lord people here truly make their own realities up in their head.
True, blockbusters are almost invariably total vacuums for ideas, Avatar included (your fanboy compiled Wikipedia page notwithstanding).
Apparently the Na'vi are sometimes composited together because they couldn't be on set at the same time (Covid production stuff), but it's pretty seamless.
Please tell me about a movie made in the last 30 years that had a "new idea".True, blockbusters are almost invariably total vacuums for ideas, Avatar included (your fanboy compiled Wikipedia page notwithstanding).
Something about these guys just really unsettles me. Like, it activates some primal fight or flight instinct in my brain. It happened with the original movie and it's happening again here.
I just don't like looking at them.
Oh you're going to double down? lol. Truly, a movie that made nearly 3 billion dollars through natural, growing word of mouth means nobody likes it. Where I live everybody liked it at the time. There, now both of us have shared meaningless personal information.So sorry I don't actively track the RT/MC score of movies I don't like?
Talk to anyone who walked out of that theater, and most of them will say, "huh? It was definitely a movie."
Outside of places like this where I swear people are just searching for the next corporate product to latch onto, no one cares about Avatar.
From the same place where someone unironically stated, "It didn't seem like they knew how to animate the faces in Arcane." Some of the takes you can read here sometimes when it comes to popular media seem contrarian for the sake of it rather than having literally any basis in reality.this could do 4 bazjilion dollars and we still hear the "does anyone care about avatar?" takes when 3 comes out.
We're talking about literally one of the most profitable movies of all time. That was so engrossing that multiple news sites reported on the fact that a notable number of people were experiencing depression after seeing the movie if only because they wanted to live in it. That's how insane the reception to this movie got.So sorry I don't actively track the RT/MC score of movies I don't like?
Talk to anyone who walked out of that theater, and most of them will say, "huh? It was definitely a movie."
Outside of places like this where I swear people are just searching for the next corporate product to latch onto, no one cares about Avatar.
For me, it has to do with all the corporate, mass produced fandom we see today. I live in Orlando and go to Disney pretty regularly, and the number of people I see who have to throw on some random Marvel or Star Wars shirt before going to the park is insane.Good lord the discussion around these films is insufferable, I don't know what it is about Avatar that draws this level of revisionist history and critique. Don't get me wrong, there are things you could improve about the original, but it was a huge critical and commercial success overall. Not every film has to be some elevated genre piece, and Avatar did a great job at what it set out to do.
Who said anything about a "new" idea? There are ideas that can be explored in a distinctive, interesting way, though. Avatar's afterschool special-level take on ecology isn't that.Please tell me about a movie made in the last 30 years that had a "new idea".
*Never takes a screenwriting class and lets youtubers convince me that tropes or familiar plot beasts are inherently bad**Watching the scene where the US military does 9/11 to a space country for oil*
This movie has nothing to say.
.............This quite literally makes no sense. Getting a shirt in a promotion or event is not corporate mass produced fandom but someone choosing to put a shirt on is? What?For me, it has to do with all the corporate, mass produced fandom we see today. I live in Orlando and go to Disney pretty regularly, and the number of people I see who have to throw on some random Marvel or Star Wars shirt before going to the park is insane.
I've never understood fandom like that, as I've never felt the need to walk around blasting my preferences in people's faces. But, I appreciate it in its natural form, e.g. someone walking around in a shirt they got in a promotion or at an event or something.
How many movies feature settings as notable as Pandora again? There are many movies set on alien worlds. And many movies with messages about anti-imperialism and such.Who said anything about a "new" idea? There are ideas that can be explored in a distinctive, interesting way, though. Avatar's afterschool special-level take on ecology isn't that.
It already IS a success tho?So back to Avatar: I see a soulless, very blah product. And I see that they are investing a ton of money to make this series a success.
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Tons of people paying inflated prices to see it in 3D doesn't mean there are just as many fans. Don't be dense.