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denx

Prophet of Truth
Member
Oct 27, 2017
6,322
Someone please check up on Zatt. 😥
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G.O.O.

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,089
Still shocked at the fact that a movie that was the all time highest grossing film for 10 years had absolutely zero cultural impact, save from a SNL skit, and unlike many other James Cameron films.
 

Scullibundo

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,691
Still shocked at the fact that a movie that was the all time highest grossing film for 10 years had absolutely zero cultural impact, save from a SNL skit, and unlike many other James Cameron films.
Still shocked that people bring up this asinine opinion as if people would still be talking about RDJ's Iron Man if there had been no other sequel or spinoff movie since the original.

How many people still talk about Inception?
 

G.O.O.

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,089
Still shocked that people bring up this asinine opinion as if people would still be talking about RDJ's Iron Man if there had been no other sequel or spinoff movie since the original.

How many people still talk about Inception?
The MCU's cultural impact has been making Disney money.
I agree about RDJ's Iron man. Not the rest.

Inception literally gave the word a new meaning. The MCU kind of cheats for being a same universe brought to conclusion over a decade, but it has iconic characters and moments. Titanic also had those.

Note that I'm not discussing whether the movie's good or not.
 

Axon

Banned
Mar 9, 2020
2,397
As it should be. I mean by the metrics that matter Avatar never fell below Endgame either way.

Also, its just a nice feeling to have an all-original movie as the highest grossing movie of all time, both in adjusted and unadjusted measurings. Avatar is a story that was specifically created for it to be told in film and it is one that couldnt be told in this way in any other medium. Feels more fitting than having an adaption or remake or whatever in that spot.
 

Prine

Attempted to circumvent ban with alt account
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
15,724
This is amazing. Endgame is completely spent too, so it's not going to come back (China release counted as it's total unlike Avatar). We now have the official King of the world, and its James Cameron.
 

Quinton

Specialist at TheGamer / Reviewer at RPG Site
Verified
Oct 25, 2017
17,283
Midgar, With Love
I mean, whatever. As others have pointed out, Disney eats gold chicken wings regardless.

I prefer Avatar over The Avengers: Endgame, but both are... fine movies. Just fine.
 

UltraMagnus

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
15,670
I still think Titanic is the modern box office king. The only way it got "beaten" was because of inflation.


Titanic - 301,300,000 known ticket sales
Avengers: Endgame - 278,301,590 known ticket sales
(worldwide)


Domestic:

All Time Top Ticket Selling Movies | Ultimate Movie Rankings

All Time Top Ticket Selling Movies

Titanic - 135 million tickets sold
Avatar - 99.8 million tickets sold
Avengers: Endgame - 93.7 million tickets sold

It's also better critically received and a bigger pop culture phenomenon (since that gets thrown in Avatar's face so much) than both Avatar and Avengers.
 

JayCB64

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,989
Wales
A re-release of Endgame would be kind of amazing once everything isn't fucked, honestly it was one of the best cinema experiences ever for me, and hearing the recordings from American showings it seems that I wasn't alone in that way of thinking.

Relieve the hype.

Avatar was fine too, but in terms of something to see in the cinema again that's not what I would flock to, personally.
 

Schlorgan

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
14,932
Salt Lake City, Utah
Maybe I misread what Sculli was saying.

I read it as an implication that Inception is a one-off movie that has been mostly forgotten by the general public.

Which is just not true.
 

UltraMagnus

Banned
Oct 27, 2017
15,670
It actually has - on average, outsold the Star Wars land at its peak. The movie with no cultural impact.

The general public actually likes the film a lot, go figure. There just isn't one signature catch phrase from the movie I guess.

If we're gonna go by "pop culture impact on the public" then quite frankly Titanic trounces both Avatar and Avengers if you want to play that game.
 

Patchy

Member
Oct 29, 2017
237
And when Endgame is back in theatres when the pandemic is dying out in 6 months time it will overtake Avatar again.
 

Jiggy

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
9,287
wherever
Endgame took the record with such a whimper. It barely crawled over Avatar with a re-release. I want to see the record demolished like Avatar did to Titanic in the first place.
 

jett

Community Resettler
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Oct 25, 2017
44,659
There was a dumb Avatar joke in the last season of Big Bang Theory.

Cultural relevance confirmed
 

subpar spatula

Refuses to Wash his Ass
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Oct 26, 2017
22,129
Avengers is so culturally impactful that it had to crawl across the finish line by a few million to beat the what's their characters names Avatar.
 
Oct 26, 2017
8,206
Maybe I misread what Sculli was saying.

I read it as an implication that Inception is a one-off movie that has been mostly forgotten by the general public.

Which is just not true.
By that standard Avatar hasn't been forgotten by the average viewer either.

Like most other one-off films they obviously won't be at the forefront of the zeitgeist but they're still talked about fairly frequently.
 

G.O.O.

Member
Oct 26, 2017
3,089
It has a land in Disney's Animal Kingdom at Walt Disney World.
They started working on it in 2011 with Cameron.

Also didn't feel like I was insulting someone with that statement. I just happen to have discussed this subject with coworkers and friends fairly recently and we all came to the same conclusion.

I mean, most excellent movies don't make a huge impact. In Avatar's case I just don't see many things worth remembering : the na'vi, the connexion thing, the huge tree and the flying rocks - and the visuals of course.

It's too early to discuss what we'll remember about the MCU, but I feel like Titanic stayed relevant much longer. Even I know the characters and the story, and I've never seen it !
 
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Scullibundo

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Oct 25, 2017
9,691
Maybe I misread what Sculli was saying.

I read it as an implication that Inception is a one-off movie that has been mostly forgotten by the general public.

Which is just not true.
Not at all. I'm making the point that a film not being in regular conversation doesn't mean it has no cultural impact. And the MCU being in regular conversation is down to the MCU getting multiple releases per year.

So comparing a franchise that has never really taken a breath, versus Avatar - a film that released and has had no sequels or spin-offs since, has always been dumb in terms of what would obviously dominate cultural conversation.
 

RowdyReverb

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Oct 25, 2017
5,934
Austin, TX
I'm so curious to see how the sequels play out and how they are received. Will they come anywhere close to this? Exceed it? I've learned never to bet against James Cameron
 

excelsiorlef

Bad Praxis
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Oct 25, 2017
73,326
I'm still pissed that Scorsese clearly colluded with China just because he can't accept Cape films as the saviours of the Cinema that they are.

This is the worst day in my life in a long time.