Wasn't there a comment in the Reiner flashback episode that their batch of Warriors was much stronger than previous ones?
Could be something to it.
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Attack on Titan Final Season |OT| Marley & Me [No Manga Spoilers!]
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Wasn't there a comment in the Reiner flashback episode that their batch of Warriors was much stronger than previous ones?
Could be something to it.
Maybe? Porco's Jaw has hardening on his face and hands, so maybe he got a dose of Armor or something like Eren did.
Yeah not to further dogpile on the manga readers, but I've had a theory tagged as a spoiler because people were accusing me of being a manga reader in the manga thread, to being quoted in the manga thread to be made fun of causing me to end up in there and catching some spoilers. That really burned me on posting in this thread so I've just been keeping my thoughts to myself.
Please continue to dogpile on us, I cannot understand why any of us are still posting in here.
If she does this, she'll kill herself along with him, no way Mikasa lives in a world without Eren, even if he's a monster. Oh and it's not like Eren has too long left 🤔
LOL
A nice dream to have, like hoping this conflict can be ended via diplomacy.
I mean we saw her do that already back when she thought he died. She resolved to keep living so she can remember him as long as possible.
But then Eren came back and destroyed that development.
Sure but I meant that she wouldn't kill herself if he just died. She'd move on with her life.
She'll have to learn if she survives this war, because Eren is going away soon anyway due to the 13 years curse.
i was just saying it did change to reflect the characteristics of the jaw titan, i.e. the teeth and claws. it was definitely a very minimal change.These are very minimal changes.
Compare Eren's Titan form to his Attack Titan form
Worlds apart
Since Marcel's Jaw Titan looked exactly the same as Porco's (probably because they were brothers), I think it's likely that Isayama just retconned the Jaw Titan's design to accentuate the claws and teeth later in the manga
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Problem being, Isayama wanted Reiner and Bertolt to recognize Ymir's Titan form.
And sure, from their perspective, I guess they might still realize what's going on even if her Titan form changed significantly to look more like a Jaw Titan, but that would seem a bit too weird/suspicious to the readers/audience, at that point in the story.
In my head this huge difference was mostly due to Eren's pure titan form being a product of him first transforming into it when he was so young. This totally looks like a little kid titan. After this he doesn't shift into his Attack Titan form for some years, so I'm thinking Eren's Attack Titan form appearance is the result of this early form + age/puberty + flipping on the shifter switch for the first time years later. Titan science is more of an art than a science after all!These are very minimal changes.
Compare Eren's Titan form to his Attack Titan form
Worlds apart
lulThese are very minimal changes.
Compare Eren's Titan form to his Attack Titan form
Worlds apart
Hey, now, I'm all for giving titans second chances. And third chances. And fourth chances. And --
Uhhh I'm an anime only watcher and unless that spoiler post was completely changed, I just rewatched season 3 and Kenny definitely said something along the lines of the ackermann's used to be close to the king and protected him or something.
Some questions I'm still murky about.
So the founding titan's big power is that it can control Titans by roaring.... yet the Female Titan still summons them with her roar in S1, and the beast Titan orders them into formation in S3 so the power doesn't seem all that special? Those are just two specific examples but in general the Titan shifters on paradis all lead armies of Titans whenever they attack so they have to be able to control them right? What's the difference between that and founding?
Secondly, is it correct to assume someone had a shit ton of Titan fluid shots and that's how connies village were turned into Titans? Reiner, Bertholdt or Zeke? I guess it'd be Zeke considering R&B were mainly sticking with the group when it happened.
So the founding titan's big power is that it can control Titans by roaring.... yet the Female Titan still summons them with her roar in S1, and the beast Titan orders them into formation in S3 so the power doesn't seem all that special? Those are just two specific examples but in general the Titan shifters on paradis all lead armies of Titans whenever they attack so they have to be able to control them right? What's the difference between that and founding?
Secondly, is it correct to assume someone had a shit ton of Titan fluid shots and that's how connies village were turned into Titans? Reiner, Bertholdt or Zeke? I guess it'd be Zeke considering R&B were mainly sticking with the group when it happened.
Dodged a bullet today it seems.. Really want to talk about the anime but to be honest the risk of randomly getting spoiled is so not worth it so I keep it to the sundays: 'wow this episode is awesome' stuff
I don't think Annie could control them, she just attracted their attention as they're meant to be drawn to shifters.
I think Zeke's thing is unique to him, and not the Beast itself, probably because of his Royal blood. Even then in his introduction one of the Titans started to disobey him so he might not even have full control.
Bert and Reiner don't have any control.
Yeah I guess that makes sense. Thinking about it harder Annie just summoned them with her roar and they started eating her that wasn't really a command, she can't sic them on people specifically. I guess the Titan armies they have, they're just taking advantage of their eating people instead of commanding them.
As for Zeke - honestly most of my questions keep coming back to him, he needs way more screen time. I wanna know specifically what his powers are as a royal family who possesses something other than the Founding, what his purpose was in going to paradis way after the original four, what kind of person he is honestly and his relationships with the other characters. I mean he's literally there with them in Marley yet Reiner and the newbies still get more screen time, I hope they give Zeke some soon. As a member of the royal family, Eren's half brother, and the entire reason Grisha went into the walls it just screams that he'll be fleshed out more. He's a very important part of this.
Oh shit - my one last question I forgot.
the Titans who are abnormals, not Titan shifters or mindless ones but seem to "behave abnormally" is there something I missed or is that just supposed to be for interesting combat setpieces and to flesh out the Titans as an even somewhat diverse race?
the show explains a reason for everything and in a good way, but there's those middle ground abnormal Titans that just seem to be abnormal but aren't as intelligent as Titan shifters.
I guess on that same note, in season 2 it's remarked how there's a new breed of Titan that CAN move after dark. Was that ever explained? Why did it change?
the Titans who are abnormals, not Titan shifters or mindless ones but seem to "behave abnormally" is there something I missed or is that just supposed to be for interesting combat setpieces and to flesh out the Titans as an even somewhat diverse race?
the show explains a reason for everything and in a good way, but there's those middle ground abnormal Titans that just seem to be abnormal but aren't as intelligent as Titan shifters.
I guess on that same note, in season 2 it's remarked how there's a new breed of Titan that CAN move after dark. Was that ever explained? Why did it change?
The abnormals are just random afaik, but are there to mix things up on screen/pages.
And iirc, the season 2 Titans moved after dark because they are the ones Zeke transformed and influenced. At least that's what seems to be what is inferred, as I don't recall any direct explanations.
It's subtle but eating the Jaw did alter her appearance. The teeth became jagged.
Edit: somehow I missed the reply already pointing this out lol
I can't see a situation where Zeke isn't a major part of the end game.
In regards to the abnormal they never explained it but I figured it was a case of their human nature informing their behaviour they are titans, like with Connie's mum or Dina Fritz/the smiling Titan seeming to seek Grisha out as she promised she would.
Probably just variation, much like the size differences. Since titans come in all shapes and sizes, I suppose it's not out of the question that some titans would have varying cognitive skills. There might be some correlation between a human's capabilities and their titan form, but I don't think there has been any such indication.
And to make mindless Titans more of a threat, I'm assuming: regular mindless Titans are extremely predictable, but if you try to exploit that, you're very likely to get slaughtered by an aberrant.
I think we have seen two types of abnormals: the ones that are simply going for the largest group instead of a smaller one, like the one in Trost and Rod; and then the ones that are working more based on some memory like the one described in Ilse her diary, Dina going for Grisha's home, ...
We've also seen from what I recall:
*Climbing and jumping
*Crawling (not unlike the Cart Titan)
*Lord Reiss' collosal
*Running titans, which seem to be the most common
*Ones that focus on something and ignore everything else until they reach it. These also tend to be runners.
I don't remember Titans going towards larger groups being considered as abnormals. Titans in general tend to congregate towards populations and groups through some sense, which is utilized by the Garrison when they retake Trost. Was this in reference to the focused abnormal in the Female Titan arc that ignored the outriders to attack the center of the scout formation?
They called the one in Trost that made a beeline for the crowd at the gate an abnormal before Mikasa swoops in and takes it down.
Ah, forgot that one doing something similar. Yeah, there's just some that hyper focus on a target and sprint at it until they reach it. Could be right that gatherings are a part of that focus.
I think the closest it ever got to forming words was when Eren was blaming Annie for obliterating the Levi Squad.
At this point, I think it's clear it's simply physically unable to speak.
I don't think he can. There was that time that Hange was on his shoulder and he couldn't explicitly communicate with her beyond looks and movement.
This is insane, I am re-watching the show with my dad, and I had COMPLETELY forgotten this was shown -
I guess my mind must have completely erased this moment, as it made no sense when they showed it.
But....did they really show Marley, Marlyan soldiers, sending people to Paradis, putting a syringe on them, and transforming into Titans, THIS early??? And we all just thought nothing of it at the time? Crazy
I guess you could think its wall maria, but now I can notice the detail of hearing the syringe and the titan transformation, as well as the soliders
Sorry, just a bit mind blown this was here all along. Amazing foreshadowing.
I guess my mind must have completely erased this moment, as it made no sense when they showed it.
But....did they really show Marley, Marlyan soldiers, sending people to Paradis, putting a syringe on them, and transforming into Titans, THIS early??? And we all just thought nothing of it at the time? Crazy
I guess you could think its wall maria, but now I can notice the detail of hearing the syringe and the titan transformation, as well as the soliders
Sorry, just a bit mind blown this was here all along. Amazing foreshadowing.
Wow that's nuts - totally remember that but also what was going on pretty much went right over my head. Very cool to see it again with context now.
MAPPA is doing such a fantastic job this season. Props to the animators crunching to bring us these episodes.
That was cathartic.
Even after seeing how the Marleyans/Eldians live and becoming attached to those characters, I am at the same place as Eren regarding that. His actions are morally reprehensible but he has to move forward. This is war and I love how Isayama doesn't shy away from its horrors.