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At least 31 dead, 260 injured as Israel continues to bomb Gaza, kills militant leader
- Thread starter Milky Way
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Resistance against aggressive powers is heroic!
*Palestine not included
In general I think the west's attitude towards resistance is entirely based on geopolitical interests and not on any consistent principle of equality or peace. You can even see it here where a thread like this won't make it past page 4 whereas the Ukraine thread has...how many hundreds of pages now? The western world was okay with South African apartheid until it was no longer advantageous to be, and it took decades to get to that point.
Be extremely careful while browsing tags on social media. Israel bombed a cementary where people were grieving their loved ones, and the video of the aftermath is going around. Shock site level of nsfl.
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I just don't get it. At what point does Israel realize they are the baddy and actually figure out a peaceful settlement? Or are they just going to keep letting this evil fester and eventually go full genocide on Palestine and become what they hate? They seem to be on the latter path and it's just baffling with their history.
They want everyone to be easily declared an enemy combatant. Then they can wipe them out as a whole and claim it was just a war of self-defense without thinking any more of it because they are acceptable targets to the world.
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This sort of post is antisemitism-adjacent. Or at the very least, it plays into the concept of "Israel = Jews". The truth is that regardless of the history that led to its creation, Israel right now is just a country doing what all countries tend to do when nothing prevents them.
You think a peaceful settlement is the goal here? As opposed to the genocide of the Palestinians?
I think once you figure this out, you'll be able to answer most of your own question here.
The world should be condemning this as a war crime. They're straight up targeting civilians and not even really hiding it.
They (The Israeli government) want all of Palestine for themselves
God help you if you are in their way, you will have to:
1) Flee in exile to another country
2) Get evicted out of your home, forcing you into ever smaller and smaller palestinian territory, or *Go to 1*
3) Go 6 feet under, possibly by the hands of one of their soldiers
4) Live like a third rate citizen if you happen to live inside Israel
5) If you happen to live in Gaza, live under military occupation, constant attacks, and a blockade, chipping away at your humanity generation after generation, until *Go to 3*
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Man just depressing when these threads come up. I mean if I living in in Toronto in relative comfort feel so hopeless.....I can only imagine who people in Palestine feel. The world just doesn't care about them and will not lift a finger. Fuck anyone who supports Isreal.
The dam is starting to break on the democratic side at least.
Support for Palestine is going up and Israeli support is going down. Time will tell but I remain hopeful some type of progress arrives and soon.
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Absolutely disgusting...
I hate how they use the word "dead" to describe the lives lost in Gaza, but when an Israeli dies they use the word "killed". Fuck the west.
I hate how they use the word "dead" to describe the lives lost in Gaza, but when an Israeli dies they use the word "killed". Fuck the west.
Eh, AIPAC in this election cycle has something to say about this. They've been incredibly effective making sure their people win primaries. Even if the base is shifting, AIPAC still wins by peddling lies about anyone who even talks about Palestinian human rights.
Killing civilians, even children. Fuck any military organization in the world that keeps targeting innocent lives.
I just have never seen anything good come out of sentimental narratives connecting the history of the Jews to the country of Israel. People with those sorts of sentimental narratives come to all sorts of completely different conclusions, none of them good.
I'm a big fan of viewing the country of Israel as a depressingly normal country. Preferring its ethnic and religious majority, always wanting to expand, always seeking security at the cost of non-citizens' lives. Many countries have forces preventing them from indulging those tendencies, but Israel does not, because it is closely allied with the most powerful country in the world. Nothing strange about that.
There is nothing normal about the way Israel operates and functions as a state - a highly charged fascist ethnostate that is executing apartheid. Is it enabled by the US? Yes. Does that define how other states that have the backing of the US function? Cause I'm not seeing it. I am totally baffled by the descriptor "depressingly normal", especially considering the volume and ruthlessness of their crimes against humanity.
View: https://twitter.com/MalakaShwaikh/status/1555990732237848578
It's only depressingly normal because the Western world views it that way and treats the suffering of the Palestinian people and the deaths of Palestinian children as nothing. It's depressingly normal because the victims are brown and muslim.
View: https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1556465569020485632
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Someone is definitely feeling the need to sanitise this - I got an ad on YouTube loudly declaring 'Israel is under attack!'
When like, they launched the operation
When like, they launched the operation
So you're sayung
1)Any country without a 'check' in place will murder it'a minorities
2)By calling out Israel for doing this = feeding anti-semitism because that's the way the world is and we are judging them harsher than other places because of #1?
If that's the case the bar is so low its effectively in hell. Why bother having courts go over war crimes or even a UN if we just need to universally embrace might is right with no attempts at stopping atrocities.
I also push back on #1 are plenty of countries with minorities where they don't go to this extreme; sure minorities get treated badly in many places but not many bomb them whenever bored, who also don't have checks and balances by your definition…its not as it the US is going to invade any of its allies, Israel is not unique.
There is a sense of futility when it comes to Israel's violence against Palestine. In the US it's underreported and even framed as virtuous. I can't speak for other countries but I'm sure it's no different most Western countries. I'd love to offer more substantial thoughts but it's a whole lot of "that's awful, Israel's leadership needs removed from the earth, nothing will be done." If there is anything I can do personally I'd love to hear it.
I think a part of the reason why this thread is so quiet compared to others is two fold:
- The comparison to Russia and Ukraine doesn't really work because the impact of this not only effects our day to day lives (rising costs) but frankly it genuinely does put us close to a war. Realistically that won't happen but it's a significant statement from Russia.
- Secondly, I think a lot of people (including myself) don't fully understand the geopolitics at play here.
The stuff being shared here is horrific. I'm also seeing things on my social media that suggest Israel was initially under attack from groups in Gaza? I think a lot of people like me simply don't understand enough of the context and which news sources are actually explaining what is happening. Comparatively, whilst I don't understand EU politics that well, it's easier to understand how bad the Russian invasion is.
- The comparison to Russia and Ukraine doesn't really work because the impact of this not only effects our day to day lives (rising costs) but frankly it genuinely does put us close to a war. Realistically that won't happen but it's a significant statement from Russia.
- Secondly, I think a lot of people (including myself) don't fully understand the geopolitics at play here.
The stuff being shared here is horrific. I'm also seeing things on my social media that suggest Israel was initially under attack from groups in Gaza? I think a lot of people like me simply don't understand enough of the context and which news sources are actually explaining what is happening. Comparatively, whilst I don't understand EU politics that well, it's easier to understand how bad the Russian invasion is.
because its been beaten into our heads that Russia = bad and similarly that Arabs/Muslims = terrorists/barbarians. It doesn't help that the US education system is awful and barely touches any of these areas in school and if it does, its to reinforce these narratives.
i know a lot of people who have a similar attitude to the point they just automatically assume Palestinians must have done something first. or done something to deserve this. or that these two sides have always been at war. so what's another new initiative and new wave of violence? this is the expectation.
but when Russia attacks, its not the norm, its news for this age and day, and reminds people of WW1 and WW2. this isn't supposed to happen. and of course the color of the skin of those being attacked comes into play. white kids are worth a lot more than brown kids in the world's eye. and I am not saying any of this to downplay the suffering in Ukraine or to justify anything Russia is doing. fuck Russia and the suffering, pain, and death they have caused.
any discussion at a political level (in congress, by any party's president, or in the media) is laughably one sided, childish, and outright dismisses Palestinians and their humanity. all i always hear is "if Palestinians just stop being terrorists the benevolent Israelis will stop fighting back and grant all the Palestinians wishes...until then its their right to kill and take more and more land". and when there are no offensives and wars, you don't hear anything about Palestinians. they disappear from any and all conversations. might as well not even exist. in those moments of "peace" and "calm", while Palestinians continue to suffer and die under occupation treated like sub-humans, no one cares or bring them up. its only when there is another outbreak of violence, do the Palestinians exist again but only to be talked down to, to stop being uncivilized, to stop being terrorists, and to stop being annoying to Israel. Palestinians only exist as the enemy during conflicts and don't exist otherwise at all.
You don't have to understand geopolitics to know that bombing children is fucking bad.
Enough with these excuses lol. Just say you don't care. That's less insulting to us Muslims.
Enough with these excuses lol. Just say you don't care. That's less insulting to us Muslims.
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I know it's not an excuse, but there's only so many times I can say that Israel is an Apartheid regime intent on killing innocent civilians and not be repeating myself every time.
Yes, you're right in that this should still make me feel the anger that it deserves, it's just the same shit with them every time and nothing changes.
Resignation, rather than apathy, and I'm sorry to those who deserve my sympathy just as much.
44 people including 15 children were killed for some random bloke who tried to vandalise a vehicle? Is this how Israel conduct "proportional" strikes now?
Jfc.
Also The US and Britain have actively helped Saudi Arabia bomb Yemen back to the stone age. 400,000 have died in that war. I am dumbfounded by the lack of coverage and moral outrage over it when compared with Ukraine.
View: https://twitter.com/rafaelshimunov/status/1557373798487310337?cxt=HHwWgoCylf3N85wrAAAA
All those dead children and lives destroyed because a guy in Israel wanted to win an election.