Ps5 and Series X are great, but I think the X360 was even more impressive from this perspective when it launched in 2005
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100% yes. When we look at the specs of the previous gen consoles, especially the original XB1, these new consoles are such a huge jump it's a bit absurd. Of course, that's partly caused by the previous-gen consoles releasing at the wrong time tech wise and having to use outdated and underpowered tech.
Edit: D'oh, I misread and thought you meant launch PS4/XB1. I do still think these consoles are a big jump over the Pro and One X though, especially processor and storage speed wise.
Edit: D'oh, I misread and thought you meant launch PS4/XB1. I do still think these consoles are a big jump over the Pro and One X though, especially processor and storage speed wise.
Yea a $399 360 in 2005 was probably the best performance to price console ever.
The hardware in the Series X is incredible for the price. Especially the GPU they went with.
PS5 digital is what the PS5 should cost next to the Series X. No way I'd pay $500 for one.
They're both great for those prices ($400 PS5 & $500 X).
The price of the S is insane for a piece of hardware that plays next-gen games.
PS5 digital is what the PS5 should cost next to the Series X. No way I'd pay $500 for one.
They're both great for those prices ($400 PS5 & $500 X).
The price of the S is insane for a piece of hardware that plays next-gen games.
WAY better. The Pro and X were just GPU and RAM buffs but the CPU and storage were still shite.
MUCH better hardware proposition, relative to the top PC specs of the time.
Near term software is weaker, but it's looking more promising in the future.
Near term software is weaker, but it's looking more promising in the future.
Yes.
Xbox and Playstation were still also trying to work gimmicks into the platform at the start of this generation with Kinect and PSmove. It is really insane thinking about how much of that Xbox reveal and first generation of it was build around the Kinect.
Xbox and Playstation were still also trying to work gimmicks into the platform at the start of this generation with Kinect and PSmove. It is really insane thinking about how much of that Xbox reveal and first generation of it was build around the Kinect.
Yeah, for the price, it's hard to believe what you're getting. I went with the disc version (on both systems) because Gamefly sales still exist, but for someone who is all digital, just wow.
I love my 1X, but it only plays the same games at 4k. Series X will do that plus ray tracing plus have an SSD plus have an amazing CPU.
Stepping outside of the raw numbers, consider the fact that these boxes offer the ability to play new games and not just enhanced games.
The fact that these will play new games for the next 7+ years instead of next 3+ alone makes the question super easy
I think so. SSD, Zen 2...
Definitely! I feel like next gen consoles are the most technically exciting and best console values since, well maybe Xbox 360?
All that you get for 499 is crazy to even think about. Massive 8 core 16 thread Zen 2 (hell beats my 6/12 Ryzen 5 2600X in my PC easily), super fast SSD, Nvidia 2080/TI performance class video card at least, utterly crazy!
Definitely! I feel like next gen consoles are the most technically exciting and best console values since, well maybe Xbox 360?
All that you get for 499 is crazy to even think about. Massive 8 core 16 thread Zen 2 (hell beats my 6/12 Ryzen 5 2600X in my PC easily), super fast SSD, Nvidia 2080/TI performance class video card at least, utterly crazy!
Heck yes,
Perhaps the GPU is a wash on the Xbox side (it was amazing in both cases), but the CPU, ultra-fast NVMes, custom texture decompressors, and custom audio hardware push these above and beyond.
Perhaps the only thing less impressive is the ram, but the SSDs and extra hardware more than make up for that.
I don't think the PS4 Pro was all that impressive, it was modest, the tech in the PS5 blows it out of the water.
Perhaps the GPU is a wash on the Xbox side (it was amazing in both cases), but the CPU, ultra-fast NVMes, custom texture decompressors, and custom audio hardware push these above and beyond.
Perhaps the only thing less impressive is the ram, but the SSDs and extra hardware more than make up for that.
I don't think the PS4 Pro was all that impressive, it was modest, the tech in the PS5 blows it out of the water.
The difference between PS5 and Series X is minuscule. Probably the smallest delta we've seen between consoles, at least in modern times.
The Pro kinda sucked. I mean I don't regret upgrading to it, but it's kind of useless without a 4K display and even with one... eh.
Never owned a One X but it seemed like a much better value proposition and better designed.
New consoles seem really solid, at all price ranges. Although I also thought base PS4 was really solid, hitting native 1080p on almost everything in 2013 was great.
Never owned a One X but it seemed like a much better value proposition and better designed.
New consoles seem really solid, at all price ranges. Although I also thought base PS4 was really solid, hitting native 1080p on almost everything in 2013 was great.
1000% yes, these new machines are great. PS4 Pro and XOX were just stopgaps, I only got the Pro due to a generous trade-in deal and it being on sale at the same time. On my 4K TV games look fine, but not massively better than the regular PS4. PS5/XSX are legitimately impressive machines at their price points.
Isn't the GPU (or TF) gap 3 to 4x that of the original PS4 vs Xbox One?
I paid $400 for a PS4 with Knack and Killzone, $500 for Spiderman and Demon's Souls (plus Watchdogs and AssCreed) so I'd say yes, it's a better value. I could have picked the digital version for the same price of a PS4 but I didn't. I had the option with the PSN "raffle" but decided with the backwards compat, I'd go with the disc version for my son for Xmas. So overall, yes. Easily.
Which part are you saying that to?
Edit** Maybe this will make sense if I represent them as a single type of hardware.
RTX 2080 $500 (SX) <-- good deal IMO
RTX 2070 $500 (PS5) <-- not a good deal IMO
RTX 2070 $400 (PS5D) <-- good deal IMO
RTX 2060 $300 (SS) <-- good deal IMO
I know the GPUs aren't direct comparisons, but that's how I see the systems "deal wise" as someone that purchases both Xbox & PS5.
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This is the strangest comparison I've seen between these consoles.
Imagine if someone valued these consoles on a single component alone. Anyone could use literally anything to make a case.
In terms of value of raw technology at launch price, it's hard to argue there's been anything as good as the PS5 and S|X.
I would say in terms of value for raw technology (ignoring games and services available, just the tech): PS5DE > Series X > Series S >= PS5 >>>> One X >> Pro
I would say in terms of value for raw technology (ignoring games and services available, just the tech): PS5DE > Series X > Series S >= PS5 >>>> One X >> Pro
Surprised to see the unanimous "yes." They both hit later in the generation with a better stable of immediately playable games and new games on the horizon that were going to take full advantage of the hardware after years figuring out current gen development.
That said, they were probably bad value if you had the original PS4 or Xbox One. I had the Xbox One and never upgrade to the X because I was waiting for next gen. I didn't have a PS4 or PS3, so the PS4 Pro was like literal gold. I got two generations worth of incredible missed games (when you included PS4 remasters/ports), and 4K HDR support (well, really 1440p).
That said, they were probably bad value if you had the original PS4 or Xbox One. I had the Xbox One and never upgrade to the X because I was waiting for next gen. I didn't have a PS4 or PS3, so the PS4 Pro was like literal gold. I got two generations worth of incredible missed games (when you included PS4 remasters/ports), and 4K HDR support (well, really 1440p).
That's why I bought the S. You can't get a cheaper next gen entry and with gamepass I'm good to go already in terms of content and seeing Microsoft now this will be a no brainer sub for years to come.
But PS5 has the full slate of PS4 games, too, for anybody who hasn't had a PS4, so that point doesn't really factor in, IMO.
Stupidly good value, I sometimes feel like it's stealing knowing how much good tech is in them.
I wouldn't trade the past 3 years of catch-up gaming for anything, but that PlayStation Plus collection would've been INSANE for me if I never got the PS4 Pro.
I'm pretty happy I skipped out on the mid-gen upgrades. Although it gave me FOMO for the remainder of the generation, I'm ready for a bigger upgrade for a better price.