the thing is i think your title is a little "bait"y, of course i know it wasn't your intention, but the result is the same.
But I actually explain exactly what I mean by that in depth in the OP, by fully juxtaposing it against Super Mario 64's similar achievements so the title makes sense. At some point I have to expect the person participating in the thread will actually, well, read the thread lol.
I'd say it's only bait if you're deliberately looking for console wars, seeing as it was intended to be praise. It'd be like getting offended over a game being praised for being like Dark Souls or Uncharted. It's not like it's being compared to Bubsy
I did not say that, in fact I brought the praise for movement in a 3D space up before even the camera. The analog here however is how both games handle their cameras, and so the camera is what I have focused on.
lol, haven't you learned time and time again that people don't actually read the OP? so far we've had people itt from both sides of the so called war being offended by (i'm assuming) just reading the title and not the OP. both nintendo fans who take offense to it being compared to nintendo's works and sony fan's who think it's an insulting comparison.
for any other game you'd be right, but for astro bot (beginning with that "mario 64 moment" tweet) so many threads have been made comparing this game to nintendo's works (and sometimes saying how it shits on their games) that before this thread even began the tone of the discussion was set (from both sides).
I get that... it's just not how my brain is wired to play games like this. :)
Yeah, but in the end, I think I subscribe to not being limited in what I can say by people who are just waiting to misconstrue it to fit their narratives no matter what I do. I'd rather speak to the ones willing to have any actual honest discussion, and thankfully, there's been a fair bit of that in this thread.
No, there is no suggestion or implication of perfection. The comparison is with the Nintendo school of game design which I think Astro Bot channels. Anything beyond that is mere projection on the part of the reader.
fair enough, and i agree, unlike several other threads, this one was actually great at explaining why the comparison is a legitimate one.
yeah, from the trailer alone one could get the nintendo vibe, like how a well made 3D animated film makes someone think of pixar's great works.
No, because Microsoft and Sony don't have a unified design language across their games. People however do talk about Naughty Dog-esque design (to the extent that games like God of War are compared to them).
Yeah my friend wanted me to get Wipeout when I was on sale, but it seems like that would be testing my motion sickness on hard mode. :P
This is actually true lmao, and I hadn't even thought about that until you brought it up
No, it just brings about the point that Nintendo games often have unique ideas or solutions that work out rather elegantly as a lot of them share many similarities. Would someone be implying Dark Souls or Uncharted are perfect if someone positively compared the depth and feel of a games combat to the former or the visuals, set pieces, and flow of combat to the second? They're just being compared favorably to critically acclaimed titles. It's only a negative if you look for it
Well that's on people deliberately looking for a console war that isn't there. You can favorably compare things without bringing one down or being insulted by it. Kind of reminds me of how heated threads got with all of the praise BotW received last year
Again, the discussion is very specifically about how this game is designed and breaks new ground vis-a-vis Nintendo games, specifically Mario 64, and there is no suggestion of anything more than that here. This is not a game that revels in cinematic storytelling, or the comparison would be to Naughty Dog or Kojima. It's a game that revels in its mechanical ingenuity, and the gold standard for comparison there is Nintendo, and the specific ways this game is designed is similarly Nintendo-esque. Nothing more, nothing less.
They did a really great job with the boss fights which is pretty tuff to do for a platformer it seems. Recently I found Tropical Freeze bosses to be extremely unfun and Odyssey's too simple and easy. Astro bot kept them fun but also unique and challenging. Stranger still the best boss fight of 2018 though
It doesn't in the slightest, as the camera only moves forward.
As a signboard to read the rest of the thread. The title isn't the be-all-and-end-all. If people want to get mad at the title and not bother to read what the title is directing them to, that's on them, I guess. But that's not what a discussion is supposed to be.
The person creating the thread did their job by backing up what the title says in the OP. If people don't want to read the OP and argue about the title, which isn't even half of the argument, they're wasting everybody's time.
I was thinking in the vein of Xbox One and the launch Kinect upgrade at the very least.
Like perhaps a separate more expensive SKU that includes an improved PSVR? I could perhaps see that, albeit I'd imagine it'd take some time to make large improvements for PSVR, no? I'd sooner expect a PS5 Pro at launch alongside a regular PS5 than that
Well, for most folk, they've been at the top of their game for quite some time and especially with the Switch so I'm not sure what you're on about
you think nintendo "used to be" innovative and masterful when they had the two best received games of last year?
