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Assassin's Creed Valhalla will run at minimum 30FPS on Xbox Series X (read probably 4K/30)
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Pretty much. Jag can run stuff at 60FPS, as long as you're OK with the sacrifices that need to be made.
I'm not sure either you or I know enough about game development to know what is needed to make 60 FPS happen. The game has likely been in development for years on current gen dev kits, so I'm not surprised to see that hamstringing the next gen versions.
You say that as though these consoles aren't better then 90% of pc gamers PCs. I'm all for the pc platform but let's not pretend the people wanting consoles to do 60 are crazy.
Edit: quoted wrong person lol my bad
Maybe.. they dont want to set us up for disappointment.
If they make this 60fps... and every other exclusive next gen AC is 30fps anyway, people would say " man, wish Ubi made this 60 and dumbed down the graphics to do it." they know only a small minority care about 30/60 fps, most just want the prettiest game at a stable 30.
But, who knows?
4K/60fps was DOA for Assassin's Creed, when not even the GTX 2080ti paired with the best gaming CPU can hit 60fps at Ultra preset.
Problem is the amount of pixels on screen. Running any new game at 4K/60 is incredibly taxing and requires a monster GPU, let alone the recent AC games which require the absolute top of the line to reach such performance. I bet they could pull it off tuning settings down, but they might not want to do that.
The point after I played 4K/30 and many 4K/60 games on my current-gen Xbox One X. Did you forget it exists?
People usually expect improvements from next-gen.
Hmm, maybe they don't want to set expectations that all future AC are going to be 60 fps titles.
I can see that.
Playing games at sub 60 fps is just insanity to me. I can't do it anymore so this is definitely disappointing. I guess I'm sticking with my PC.
When Aaron Greenberg mislead people to believe as such on Twitter
Aaron Greenberg 🙅🏼♂️❎ on Twitter
“@Nick10151564556 60fps will be the standard output, but the architecture allows us to support up to 120fps.”
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I don't laugh at that, since the hardware is apparently there. But I do laugh at people who seem to actually believe that Microsoft (or Sony) for that matter are going to mandate that 60 fps is going to be some standard for their console. Like, yeah, those companies are going to say, 'Sorry, Ubisoft, you can't release your long running multi-million selling Assassin's Creed title on our system. You aren't targeting 60 fps.' Some people just don't have a grip on reality
I'm pretty sure Odyssey just barely makes 4k/60 on a 2080ti so I'm not too surprised. 4k is tough to hit at 60 fps in general and these consoles aren't going to be over 500 bucks. I'm not sure what people expect here lol. Also, a lot of times companies just push visuals as hard as they can instead of worrying about frame rates since its more obvious to many users. I wish it was different, but that's also why I have a PC with my consoles just in case I want that kind of experience. When RT starts showing up, expect lower resolution and 30 fps on some of this stuff if its full RT unless AMD has a much better implementation than NVIDIA.
And why are you acting like XSX will run the exact same version of the game as the X1X? Next-gen will have improvements in graphics and other visual features.
MS PR gonna MS PRWhen Aaron Greenberg mislead people to believe as such on Twitter
Aaron Greenberg 🙅🏼♂️❎ on Twitter
“@Nick10151564556 60fps will be the standard output, but the architecture allows us to support up to 120fps.”
Odyssey does nowhere near 4K/60 with settings maxed out on a 2080ti, at least not without a ridiculous 5 Ghz CPU
Too bad you don't even need to run a game in 4k to take 4k screenshots :P
Honestly It's just completely bizzare to me
Lowering the resolution won't help if the game is limited by the CPU.
gtx 2080ti and a CPU much better than the one in the Series X can't run AC Odyssey at Native 4K/60fps on PC at Ultra settings so yes, there is no way Valhalla is going to run at 60fps on weaker specs
It's definitely possible. It would have to be a lower setting. As many have said, 4k/60FPS with the settings on Ultra won't happen on these new consoles.
Considering we have games that need a 2080 Super/Ti with a Zen/+/2 or newer Intel CPU at decent clockspeeds to even reach 4k60 on PC, (While looking significantly better than on PS4/Pro/Xbone/X), this should not come as a surprise. I do believe the game will way better on next gen systems though.
Oh and 4k60 WITH Raytracing isn't even possible on PC (yet), so don't expect the consoles to suddenly do 4k60+RT all of a sudden (Maybe with a lighter RT implementation starting on mid gen titles)
And no i don't think optimizing for consoles gives enough of a performance advantage. Console OSes on Sony and MS consoles are kinda large entities too since the (still) current gen and it don't think they'll trim that down.
I also believe the mid gen refreshes really damp the impact of next gen quite a bit...
Oh and 4k60 WITH Raytracing isn't even possible on PC (yet), so don't expect the consoles to suddenly do 4k60+RT all of a sudden (Maybe with a lighter RT implementation starting on mid gen titles)
And no i don't think optimizing for consoles gives enough of a performance advantage. Console OSes on Sony and MS consoles are kinda large entities too since the (still) current gen and it don't think they'll trim that down.
I also believe the mid gen refreshes really damp the impact of next gen quite a bit...
That it's cross-gen is exactly why this is so disappointing. Ideally you'd see:
- 1080/30 on base PS4/X1
- 4K/30 on PS4 pro/X1X (and even more ideally, give an option for 1080/60)
- 4k/60 on new-gen consoles
But nah, guess not. :\
Uhh didn't say that though?! More likely that publishers don't see the value into putting the effort since the userbase is gonna be mostly on current gen.
Everyone knows the best gameplay comes from comparing static screenshots on gaming forums and console warring the fuck out of them.
True, but I dont think a game that looks like this is going to be super CPU bound?
Hmmm, actually it is open world so it might be.
I just don't think Ubi is going to target 60 FPS for AC or WD. They will add all the other bells and whistles and 30 FPS fixed.
why is this even an argument? no reasonable person here is saying that. we simply want a performance mode w/ lower res/settings to hit 60. The game logic is already written for a Jag cpu, there is literally no excuse. It will be utter crap if i can run this game at 60 with lower settings on my (inferior specd PC and they dont give us a similar option on a more powerful system (xbox series x)
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