yeah problem solved after i fork out another 2k on a new tv i guess.
hope this shit won't be used as remedy for poor development
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Assassin's Creed Valhalla PS5 vs Xbox Series X Graphics Comparison
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yeah problem solved after i fork out another 2k on a new tv i guess.
hope this shit won't be used as remedy for poor development
Youtube is pretty much useless to judge next gen games. Even at 4k 60 fps there's still too much compression artefacts. It won't stop people from judging and shiting on games based on bad quality footage.
You're not alone, friend.
I'm sure this will get fixed in a patch. Ubisoft are usually fairly diligent with these sorts of things.
Decided to play Yakuza first and hold off on opening my copy of Valhalla for the time being. Will wait for a Digital Foundry comparison or patch. The Dirt 5 one was rapid, so hopefully AC's is fairly quick too.
In no way shape or form is youtube useless to judge a next gen game or even next next next next next next gen game.
Briefly looking it up, no, I don't think that wouldn't support VRR.
Buying a VRR supported TV to stop tearing in a game is a bit like getting a paper cut and going to the emergency room without health insurance to get a band-aid put on. This will be more impressive when it's in a $400 TCL though and it's cool that it exists.
Not judging by this compressed-ass video (but by older ones), but am I the only that thinks that ACO looks better than this one, or am I just misremembering?
Yup. There's a lot of time + money + staff that go into making games like The Last of Us 2 and Red Dead Redemption 2.
Assassin's Creed gets the staff and funding, but it's still churned out in an incredible amount of time. Best I can find is that as of April it was in development for "more than two and a half years". Assuming it's not drastically longer, that's less than four years of development time for a sprawling open world RPG while also dealing with the development shift from COVID. As far as staffing goes we don't have numbers for Valhalla yet, but if it's like the past couple there was probably around 1,000 staff members. I can't find many reports about crunch at Ubisoft, but the Odyssey managing director said that they didn't require massive crunch, and they try to avoid burning out staff. Although it's hard to trust someone in a leadership position's word on the matter, we haven't had any word of the opposite.
For comparison, development on The Last of Us 2 started shortly after the PS4 release of the original, back in Summer of 2014. The game released Summer 2020 so that's nearly six years of development. It also had over 2000 people who worked on the game. Despite the longer development and sheer number of staff working on it, crunch was still a serious issue.
We're reaching a point where some aspects are limited predominately by the amount of resources you throw at the game, and we can't go around and complain about things like crunch, delays, and massive development times and then turn around and criticize games for not comparing favorably to titles that have more resources than any other title out there.
naaaaaah, Valhalla outclasses Origins and especially Odyssey by far.
Well that explains it. Everyone kept complaining about screen tearing and I had no idea what the fuck they were taking about (using a 65" C9).
I'm just remembering with that rose-tint notalgia, then. I think it's because I like the setting better on AC: Odyssey (I forgot that the last two AC games have the same acronym, I meant Odyssey originally).
I meant it is useless to judge graphics. A 4k 60fps video on YouTube is usually around 25 Mbps or less. This bitrate is low even for 1080p. So yeah, a video of a next gen game on YouTube won't be even close to what you will be getting in direct feed, and most of the details and nuances will be lost.
You're misremembering. I've been playing a ton of Odyssey on the One X recently and Valhalla on the Series X blows it out of the water. It's massively better looking.
More memory to work with for what is on screen? That was supposed to be on of the things third party devs could take advantage of without redesigning the game.PS5 has somehow more refined textures and shadows. Particularly for the bow and sword.
PS5 has somehow more refined textures and shadows. Particularly for the bow and sword.
Good job trying to get something out of the video.
I'm not sure that's what's happening here though. They look more different then that. It's a different dude sitting at the table. Maybe they're on different patches?
VRR was definitely a HUGE factor when buying a new display for the Next Generation Console. I really hope SONY supports it soon also.
Thats what confuse me , john talking about 120hz but i haven't seen any info saying AC vahlala has a 120fps mode
Might pick up a series x in 6 years when I buy a VRR tv then. Does the PS5 have the same tearing?
VRR is really only available in 2019-2020 TVs no? I think there are some 2018 Samsungs that supported it to some degree.
It looks the same as these?
Looks pretty great on everything from what I've seen.
Is there a screenshot thread?
Generally I am 100% with Ser Retro Linemman, but this comment comes off more like an enshrinement of a new tech, generally reserved for mid-high to high end TVs (and yes, it is definitely a feature worth having) rather than an admonishment of why it is not ideal for Ubisoft to sell a brand new title that relies on expensive new tech that majority of pre-existing userbase (including those with 4K60/1080p120Hz sets) do not have at their disposal, to solve this innate technical issues.
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It almost looks like the Xbox version is missing a decal.PS5 has somehow more refined textures and shadows. Particularly for the bow and sword.
I don't really understand the context of the Linneman comment. Is this for 120 hz mode only? 60 fps mode is more important. If there is tearing in the 60fps mode, that is bad because the game was supposed to be dynamic 4k to hold 60 fps.
Will be years before enough gamers will have a vrr tv. Hitting 60fps locked will be important for awhile.
Will be years before enough gamers will have a vrr tv. Hitting 60fps locked will be important for awhile.
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That and the bow and sword lack some self-shadowing on Xbox.
That's a very poorly designed game is you need a $2000 tv to make it look like it's not running like garbage. Devs absolutely should not rely on tv features to hide technical issues.
Most led TVs with vrr kick in as low as 48hz , oled can do vrr down to 40 I think.
Consoles have barely been able to deliver 1080p60 with any consistency...now they want to start banging on about 120hz options, 4K60, 8K (yeah right!), and VRR when barely any of the displays in people's homes can take advantage of that? They need to quit that shit and stop spending resources on features 95% of players will never be able to take advantage of. Maybe then they wouldn't have to make games cost £70 a pop.
Screen tearing in a major AAA release on the first day with your shiny new console could well be a really bad impression. Hope it doesn't become a crutch to allow them to cut corners on optimisation.
Really, REALLY don't want to replace my TV any time soon...preferably holding out until something without OLED's weaknesses while still having the positives of it's great picture quality.
Screen tearing in a major AAA release on the first day with your shiny new console could well be a really bad impression. Hope it doesn't become a crutch to allow them to cut corners on optimisation.
Really, REALLY don't want to replace my TV any time soon...preferably holding out until something without OLED's weaknesses while still having the positives of it's great picture quality.
Wave Gate.Now this is getting weird. The boat on XSX makes absolutely no waves in motion (yes here the boat is going at the same speed in both footage).
Only played for 30 minutes, but not particularly impressed so far. Clean 4K and mostly smooth 60fps, but it just doesn't look that great. The faces/hair and animations really stand out IMO.
It's already listed on the spec info for the PS5. They probably need finish getting certified before they give us VRR.
Weird. With how 2020 has gone, and how this is all launch software, it's probably less to do with system capabilitiesNow this is getting weird. The boat on XSX version makes absolutely no waves in motion (yes here the boat is going at the same speed in both footage).