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I meant their PR, they always just list the games as 4k for both consoles not making the distinction if it's dynamic, reconstructed or upscaled.
I don't think that's what's important here anyway. I personally care more about what this difference (If true) will result into when later in the gen more demanding games start to target 1440p60/30 instead of 4k, if Series X games would end up being native 1440p but upscaled on PS5.
The last couple of Assassin's Creed games used dynamic scaling on PS4 Pro and Xbox One X, I'm sure it's the same in Valhalla on PS5 and XSX. Keeping the framerate at 60 is far more important than locking the resolution.
even the pristine natively rendered pixels will still also be sampling lower than native resolution reflections, shadows, alpha.
I'd guess almost nothing from the last 10 years or more is actually properly native res. And if your components aren't native res, what's the big deal if your final pixels are?
Series X has quite a lot more horsepower so this should be expected really. Whether it's enough for anyone to care is another matter.
Cool, thanks
As someone getting a Series X and a PS5, I am very excited for Digital Foundry to look at some multi-platform games
Series X has a decent leap in raw horsepower, it's not shocking at all yet some of you describe it as a minor increase
For Year 1+2 crossgen titles where they're not taking advantage of the newer architecture, it absolutely does mean a difference. Now you're comparing super sharp vs sharp so it's minor anyway
For Year 1+2 crossgen titles where they're not taking advantage of the newer architecture, it absolutely does mean a difference. Now you're comparing super sharp vs sharp so it's minor anyway
I care more about clarity. If the box says dynamic 4k, but the image is clear as Odysseys and Origins was (but this time better), I don't see any problem. Remember that devs can now mask things into looking as sharp as 4k without actually being 4k, unless I am mistaken.
Maybe. I don't think we'll know for sure until DF gets their hands on it.
Quite a lot more? It's the closest these consoles have been in terms of power.
I only said it would matter, because it will.
But of course, I doubt that even if we go to such extremes of 1440p VS native 4k (which would be the equivalent of 720p VS 1080p) we won't have another resolution gate this time around.
I won't pretend I'm super in touch with console tech. But as a PC gamer, I always assumed that a lot of games will not be targeting full 4k this generation. To achieve 4k@60fps on PC right now requires serious hardware and a lot of investment.
I would also imagine that most games targeting high frame rates this gen would have to sacrifice resolution, maybe even graphic settings, to achieve this.
The good news is, in practice, 99.9% of gamers will be absolutely fine with upscaled 1440p @ 60fps. Switching between these two resolutions on my PC, viewing it from my couch ~9 feet away, I struggle to notice a difference besides the framerate.
I don't see this as being much different than previous generations, especially as this generation develops. If you absolutely must have the highest resolution, and have to maintain the highest possible framerate, you will simply have to invest big money into the latest PC hardware.
I would also imagine that most games targeting high frame rates this gen would have to sacrifice resolution, maybe even graphic settings, to achieve this.
The good news is, in practice, 99.9% of gamers will be absolutely fine with upscaled 1440p @ 60fps. Switching between these two resolutions on my PC, viewing it from my couch ~9 feet away, I struggle to notice a difference besides the framerate.
I don't see this as being much different than previous generations, especially as this generation develops. If you absolutely must have the highest resolution, and have to maintain the highest possible framerate, you will simply have to invest big money into the latest PC hardware.
Agreed but I'd rather have the extra power in performance headroom rather than graphics. There were a number of games one the One X that developers tried to do a little too much with and the games ended up running better on the Pro. Eg. 1440p on Pro 1800p on X with better shadows or something, but performance ended up slightly worse.
But they said the same thing about the PS5, chances are neither of them are native.
Will wait for what DF shows regardless before making a decision on which platform to buy it on.
DF's definitely got their work cut out for them. "Here's an hour long video comparing PC, Xbox One, Xbox One X, Xbox Series S, Xbox Series X, PS4, PS4 Pro, and PS5."
I assume they've already discussed amongst themselves how they're going to handle this and how they're going to break up the different comparisons. No way you'd be able to fit all that in just one video, it'd be too much.
Lol, you must have missed the drama
Ubisoft said, before Unity came out, literally at the same stage Valhalla is at now, that they were aiming for parity and both systems would aim for 900, and that caused an absolute shitstorm
I know there was no parity, that's literally why it caused a shitstorm, because everyone (wrongly, in retrospect) expected the more powerful PS4 to run the game better and felt it was being held back
Maybe I'm just old and remember these things and no one else does
Oh totally, I didn't even think of the people who will own both consoles. I'm sorry for my ignorance!
I don't envy DF job during the consoles launches, they are gonna bring out the worse of fanboys from both sides.
18% for next gen vs 40% difference in the current gen base and enhanced consoles is marginal. The actual resolution difference from 4k will not be noticeable.
I can not wait to see AMD answer to DLSS
Native resolution will become obsolete and everyone will be able to achieve higher FPS
Native resolution will become obsolete and everyone will be able to achieve higher FPS
Yeah, I remember that. "WHERE'S MY 1080P PATCH, UBIFUCK?!?!?"
Especially after Black Flag launched at 900p, remember? And they patched it to run 1080p shortly after launch.
I'm talking about their PR too. Your original post said that their PR mark their games as native 4K and the only game I can recall them doing that for is Far Cry 5 on the One X which indeed hit native 4K for 99% of the experience. Everything else has just been a vague '4K'
This isn't really a Ubisoft exclusive thing is it, every publisher has done this ever since the mid-gen refresh consoles were launched. There's a stark difference however between just saying a game is '4K' and going out of your way to say a game is native 4K, which they have done on multiple occasions for Valhalla (Series X)
Just check all the press releases
This exaggeration is so tiring. Yes you can see a difference between resolutions and no you don't need a freeze frame and zoom to do it. Higher resolution is better than lower resolution.
Oh no I remember this it was awful, it was also on every media site that could run it: Xbox One is a 900 P console and PS4 is 1080p.
User warned: Platform wars
PS5 has unstable clocks so the gap is bigger than what they want you to believe.
This shit right here. Whether you're on PC, console, whatever this is the move for everyone to get the best of all worlds.
Ok fine but that's why I said it's no longer used. I haven't come across this word in long time since last gen 7 years ago
When you put it like that, it sounds really exhausting
I really hope they do some videos with only next gen consoles
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