You do realize making Marvel-related games didn't and won't stop Insomniac Games from making new IPs, right? They released a bunch of new IPs (albeit they were VR games), still new IPs nonetheless.
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As a PS5 owner, it bothers you that Sony will have just 1 big AAA PS5 only original game in 3 years?
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We don't know how many are staying in Japan and are actually just going to buyers in China though, the sales of PS5 titles suggests not most are going elsewhere.
Me neither. It's like people here are playing bingo lol. Has to have x first party game so they can put a dot on the square.
Also gt comes out March 2022.
I've played SM and SM:MM. And I'm already sick and tired of all the Marvel crap. Games, movies or TV series. Would have been nice to get at least one new original first-party IP in this showcase. Like I said I couldn't really care less about seeing more Marvel stuff so this whole showcase did nothing for me.
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Sure, but you can't avoid the fact that making two massive, triple-A Marvel games is going to take up a huge slice of their time and resources. I'd personally prefer to see those massive budgets going towards new, exciting projects that are all their own, rather than licensed projects that lean on popular IP for safer returns.
Like... as long as PS is getting the Japanese titles I like, I don't care who makes them. I'm not gonna like them more cuz it boots up with a PS logo. PS4 got a ridiculous amount of Japanese support and the PS5 will continue that. That's all I give a fuck about.
I get that Marvel is something a lot of people like. I do. I just feel that Sony first party studios increasingly make games that aren't interesting to me, which is something I would never imagine saying 4-5 years ago.
The Returnal slander is uncalled for. It's a GOTY contender and one of the best new IPs in recent years.
Not even a little bit.
The first year of the PS5's life cycle has been stellar, in large part due to backwards compatibility and cross gen games that have helped keep away the "first year drought" most new hardware experiences.
Returnal, Demon's Souls, and Ratchet & Clank are exclusive PS5 titles. I don't put qualifiers on them like "AAA" or "it's only a remake." For me, personally, I find that a little insulting to the insane amount of work these studios have put into developing these games and getting them into our hands, and during a global pandemic where the vast majority of us are still fucking working from home, dealing with personal losses and struggles, and trying to do our jobs as efficiently and effectively as we can.
I mean, I've been working from home for the past 19 months, and while our studio has been holding up pretty well, it has been incredibly hard, and various plans we have for our game have had to be adapted because of this pandemic.
I'm giving these studios a bit of slack, and I can't help but applaud them for being able to give us what we've gotten over the past almost two years. It's crazy impressive.
So, no, it doesn't bother me that the PS5 isn't drowning in AAA games, and won't be for the foreseeable future. Not to mention that AAA development is an expensive and difficult undertaking during the most "ideal" development circumstances…
The first year of the PS5's life cycle has been stellar, in large part due to backwards compatibility and cross gen games that have helped keep away the "first year drought" most new hardware experiences.
Returnal, Demon's Souls, and Ratchet & Clank are exclusive PS5 titles. I don't put qualifiers on them like "AAA" or "it's only a remake." For me, personally, I find that a little insulting to the insane amount of work these studios have put into developing these games and getting them into our hands, and during a global pandemic where the vast majority of us are still fucking working from home, dealing with personal losses and struggles, and trying to do our jobs as efficiently and effectively as we can.
I mean, I've been working from home for the past 19 months, and while our studio has been holding up pretty well, it has been incredibly hard, and various plans we have for our game have had to be adapted because of this pandemic.
I'm giving these studios a bit of slack, and I can't help but applaud them for being able to give us what we've gotten over the past almost two years. It's crazy impressive.
So, no, it doesn't bother me that the PS5 isn't drowning in AAA games, and won't be for the foreseeable future. Not to mention that AAA development is an expensive and difficult undertaking during the most "ideal" development circumstances…
I mean... aren't they by and large making new entries into those same titles from 4-5 years ago...?
I hope they show more next year. More so because outside of GOW and forspoken much doesnt interest me. Its my exclusive box but I'd still like to use it as much as I can in the near future.
It was frustrating back when they announced GT7 and GoWR as cross-gen games as well, especially since they let us believe those were PS5 only for almost a year.
But since then I've accepted that this gen we are gonna have a long ass cross-gen period (wouldn't even surprise me if we had 2024-2025 cross-gen games) and moved on.
But since then I've accepted that this gen we are gonna have a long ass cross-gen period (wouldn't even surprise me if we had 2024-2025 cross-gen games) and moved on.
5 years for Horizon & GT, 4 year for GOW. That's not quick turnarounds my friend.
This is a pretty direct result of the PS4 gen being heavy on new IP and most of them being super successful. I imagine it's hard to justify not making a sequel after a success with how long it takes to make a brand new game compared to a sequel with a build in audience.
Which is why I was fine that Bend wasn't making another Days Gone. I think we know that Bend, SSM, likely Naughty Dog and the newer studios are all making new games.
I get some of the Marvel fatigue, mostly the movies and some of the games that feel like also rans. But personally I can't get enough of the Insomniac brand of Spider-Man so I'm definitely down for Wolverine.
The only one I can think of Suckerpunch I would be fine if they made something new before Ghost 2 which I guess is a unlikely possibility, same with GG hope they make something new after Horizon 2.
Which is why I was fine that Bend wasn't making another Days Gone. I think we know that Bend, SSM, likely Naughty Dog and the newer studios are all making new games.
I get some of the Marvel fatigue, mostly the movies and some of the games that feel like also rans. But personally I can't get enough of the Insomniac brand of Spider-Man so I'm definitely down for Wolverine.
The only one I can think of Suckerpunch I would be fine if they made something new before Ghost 2 which I guess is a unlikely possibility, same with GG hope they make something new after Horizon 2.
Doesn't really bother me at all. After after GoW, Spider-Man, Horizon, TLoU2 did as well as they did, I knew we were going to be seeing sequels to each one of them.
Sounds to me you didn't like God of War (2018), Ghost of Tsushima or Returnal. XD
Like literally the hole entertainment market. Books, movies, music got nothing on what they just showed.
Lmao after the avengers being a massive flop I can't believe people still say stuff like this.
Like can you say with confidence that guardians of the galaxy game will be a massive success? Midnight suns?
Making a Spiderman or wolverine game is no more or less safe than making than say ratchet.
Also who are you to say that insomniac didn't want to make these games?
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Ah, yes. I guess it's always just about the business needs.
There's an ignore button right there, dickhead.
They probably wouldn't have stopped if more people bought them.
You do realize that Insomniac chose to work on these games and IPs, right? They weren't forced to.
The differences between platforms are relatively minor compared to past generations; this is the standard now, cross gen transition periods are never going to go away, so I would hope that anyone bothered by this gets over it.
No it doesn't bother me. It doesn't matter to me whether a game is a sequel or original but if it is interesting to me and it's high quality, I will play it. Not sure where you are going with this thread.
So do I. Loved Gravity 1+2, Tokyo Jungle, Puppeteer, The Last Guardian, Shadows of the Colossus... you name it.
Yep. Gamers are a mistake. Delay the release of your console and give your opponent a year headstart...That would be a wise decision.
Can't really justify the cost of a ps5 yet until the games come out for it. I'm waiting till some first party games come out.
I only think it's annoying because Sony was banging thier drum really hard about believing in generations, amd then kind of ended up being mostly full of shit about it.
In reality, I think they've done a pretty good job. While getting games designed specifically for PS5 is pretty amazing, the reality is that Demon's Souls, Returnal, Ratchet, Miles, Horizon FW, Gran Turismo 7, and God of War all really do still look incredible.
Also, visuals, or perhaps more specifically, the ability to render a game in a way that only next-gen machines are capable of, isn't necessarily the most important aspect of a game. Most of favorite games this year are cross-gen, and I feel absolutely spoiled for it. Psychonauts 2, the Artful Escape, Death's Door, Quake Remastered, have captivated me just as much as Returnal and Flight Sim.
In reality, I think they've done a pretty good job. While getting games designed specifically for PS5 is pretty amazing, the reality is that Demon's Souls, Returnal, Ratchet, Miles, Horizon FW, Gran Turismo 7, and God of War all really do still look incredible.
Also, visuals, or perhaps more specifically, the ability to render a game in a way that only next-gen machines are capable of, isn't necessarily the most important aspect of a game. Most of favorite games this year are cross-gen, and I feel absolutely spoiled for it. Psychonauts 2, the Artful Escape, Death's Door, Quake Remastered, have captivated me just as much as Returnal and Flight Sim.
If you have to jump through hoops to give reasons why Returnal (currently my GOTY) doesnt count, then it seems like you just want to complain that Sony are specifically not making the exact games you want while willfully ignoring others just because goalpost moving.
And no, either way it doesnt bother me. What's being releaesd looks excellent. I dont give a rats ass about cross gen, I thought GOW Ragnarok looked amazing and I completely forgot that it was crossgen yesterday night. I'll get the game, almost certainly love the game, and probably laugh at those that are bemoaning the existence of a PS4 version - ditto with GT7, Horizon etc
And no, either way it doesnt bother me. What's being releaesd looks excellent. I dont give a rats ass about cross gen, I thought GOW Ragnarok looked amazing and I completely forgot that it was crossgen yesterday night. I'll get the game, almost certainly love the game, and probably laugh at those that are bemoaning the existence of a PS4 version - ditto with GT7, Horizon etc
Genuinely, no. There's things that do bother me about Sony's strategy with ps5 but the actual software is not one of them. Games and game engines continue to be more scalable than ever and I think with each release and project teams and publishing should be putting them where it makes sense for the game and for the fans. If the only reason to ship exclusively for ps5 is artificial, that's not good enough. I do not need games to be exclusive to ps5 to validate my purchase of the ps5 basically.
Definitely not happy about it. By deciding to go with a unique configuration for PS5 (the huge focus on memory speed instead of compute), it's really all up to the exclusives to show what the PS5 is capable of (and why you should buy it over xbox).
Really not liking the new Sony that seems to prioritise their game publishing profit over the PS platform.
Really not liking the new Sony that seems to prioritise their game publishing profit over the PS platform.
The world does not revolve around you, so move along. You do not want your PS5? Sell it, make someone else's day and invest in another machine.
They just don't compare to Resistance Fall of Man and Blast Factor (no disrespect to Insomniac and Bluepoint I played a fuckton of both...cuz thats almost all there was at this point)
they just want sony to make turn based jrpgs, forget final fantasy and Forspoken. Those don't count, it needs to have a sony studios logo in the front
These games would have been on PS4 regardless they are obv. developed with PS4 in mind.
Covid not happening doesnt mean that the 130m PS4 out there suddenly stop to exist.
If they had gone PS5 only with most of their games on a limited install base they would have lost the mindshare war for a lot of announcements compared to Nintendo and MS, that adress bigger parts of their audience with their offerings.
Let's hope Team Asobi will bring some of that classic Japan Studio magic.
Nah I'll keep complaining until I get something I like. And this is what all the other customers should do too if they aren't happy.
You can move along though and ignore my posts from now on if they bother you.
Well I mean there isn't much left. Polyphony was there with GT7. And then... there is Asobi with more Astro games. That's it.
All you can do is to hope that their japanese XDev team will collaborate with From Software again.