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Artist discusses her time in the Smash community and rape at age 15. UP: See Threadmarks (Additional allegations against ZeRo)
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You don't pick a side, you look at the proof and statements and wait for the truth to come out. Like I said, this might be a way to call out ZeRo and corroborate the abuses on Sky's house (the past accusation) by snitching and covering himself.
Yeah fair enough, i do think there is something fishy about this ZeRo accusations from Jisu though
The girl says she was basically used as a sex slave when she was a minor and exploited for her art pieces by the same accusers and enablers.
Then, she drops a separate tweet on ZeRo accusing him and his response is basically some screenshots of her past interactions with her or no recollection of what was being accused.
Some of the tweets she get are downright dehumanizing and vile because of the latter. It's like people can't help tripping themselves over because the human they worship are called out.
It hurts these fan so much that they totally gloss over the fact her claims on being sexually abused at 15.
Then, she drops a separate tweet on ZeRo accusing him and his response is basically some screenshots of her past interactions with her or no recollection of what was being accused.
Some of the tweets she get are downright dehumanizing and vile because of the latter. It's like people can't help tripping themselves over because the human they worship are called out.
It hurts these fan so much that they totally gloss over the fact her claims on being sexually abused at 15.
Even ZeRo said himself, do not attack her, and they go and attack her. Some fans are morons.
I have a feeling these people who attack Jisu never read ZeRo's statement, they went and shat on her or just badly skimmed it to get the first tweet out for clout.
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How many of those people were praising Zack for speaking up about Nairo. Holy shit can people be toxic when it comes to people or even companies they idolize. You had Zero,Alpharad,and many others saying "hey you shouldn't make idols out of us we're honestly no different from others" like 12 hours ago.
That Zero statement says... nothing!?
Sure, he has timestamps and all of that but that doesn't debunk any allegations.
Because not everyone has to be around at every time, shit people can back each other up etc etc.
I'll remain cautious
Sure, he has timestamps and all of that but that doesn't debunk any allegations.
Because not everyone has to be around at every time, shit people can back each other up etc etc.
I'll remain cautious
He did though all in the last paragraph. I don't think he's great at articulating himself but he's definitely rebuking it.
Good, believable response from Zero.
Until I read a follow-up from the victim (which might not even since she said her "job here is done") I'll choose to believe that this is either a misunderstanding or was not something done with good intentions on her end.
Until I read a follow-up from the victim (which might not even since she said her "job here is done") I'll choose to believe that this is either a misunderstanding or was not something done with good intentions on her end.
Not everyone is always there, people can back up each other and saying you don't use website X... well everyone can say this.
There are times where shit like this could happen. That's why I'll remain cautious
I'd like to think it was a misunderstanding too but I can't shake the whole "job here is done".
It's the oddest response I've seen to one of these yet. I can't understand it tbh.
Yeah I believe Jisu. Zero spending most of it deflecting that they were on good terms doesn't sit right with me, as someone who's been in her position.
All his "evidence" has nothing to do with the accusation when he's trying to deny them. His main evidence is that she stayed on good terms with him after the time line of the events, which is for anyone who have been following these stories for the past few days should know it proves nothing when talking about minors who don't fully grasp the situation they were in.
New accusations against ZeRo.
Everyone seems to be defending his ass and acussing the second story of being fabricated.
I have no idea who the person is and the twitter account looks like a throwaway but still, those messages are creepy.
Yeah, I see no way this is fabricated. The screens include ads that ran in 2014. He was 19 she was 14.
This is easily the most unsettling story because reflecting on some guys I knew who were bragging about being with teenagers I was pretty naive to think all those relationships were kosher. I'm now pretty sure now some of those people were abusers. All I can do is teach my own kid when I have them if they think someone they perceive to be sketchy bragging about this should report it to police discreetly if the bragger confirms they are still with that younger person.
I wish it didn't take me this long to realize this.
I wish it didn't take me this long to realize this.
Yeah I'm absolutely not surprised at Zero showing porn to strangers.
I watched a few of his videos when ultimate released and he always made uncomfortable jokes about hentai and porn.
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Zero has never been good at addressing serious topics so it's not a surprise he's dropping the ball here. The specifics of the allegation aren't really the point, it's about recognizing and reflecting on how you've contributed to rape culture, intentionally or otherwise. I hope that someone is able to show him that before he makes his next remarks because it's easy to imagine he'll fall into self-defense mode again
WTF? How is this in anyway a normal way to speak to someone. Dude even asked her fucking grade. man, mannnnn.
Creepy af.
Definitely not normal. The social circle that frequented this house has basically been ground zero for most (not all...) of the abhorrent shit that's been brought to light this week.
What's also effed up is that Jisu came forward with her story a few years ago, and a lot of the current crop of casualties (who could've and should've helped her) did the "pretends to be shocked" shit.
OP
OP
Zero couldn't possibly be daft enough not to know that saying "Don't attack her" wouldn't stop his following from attacking her.
Or maybe he really is just that daft, which presents a number of other problems on its own.
These fuckers need to go to prison. Are these acts beyond the statute of limitations for molestation/rape? I'm surprised we haven't heard anything about the law getting involved. What is this shit I'm reading with a teenage girl living in the same house as a bunch of grown ass men?! That should have been suspect as HELL
Yeah, I'm getting flashbacks to the Vic Mignogna scandal where people kept pointing to random tweets/footage and going "See?! Monica Rial was NICE to him! Why would she pal around with the man who assaulted her, HUH???" That doesn't have shit to do with the allegations involved.
I just realised this girl did some commission work for me about 2 years ago. We spoke on the phone about the concept she was going to be doing and I always thought she sounded so negative and had no confidence in what she was doing. Now I can understand why she was like this and I feel bad for thinking she was just a negative person without any personality.
At this point, it's safe to say that the moment someone drops a TwitLonger link, someone's career is done.
Melee fans have gone 19 years without DLC and their community is somehow still vibrant. Canning the rest of Fighter Pass 2 will only hurt the non-community people (ie: everyone not involved in these stories).
Zero's fanbase is fucking disgusting. The rest of the accusations that people were putting out were being taken surprisingly seriously and being treated progressively by the competitive Smash community as a whole but suddenly when it's Zero all of the sexist teenagers and manchildren (and women! A woman I used to be friends with literally liked tweets calling Jisu a liar!) crawl out of the woodwork to start harassing anyone who dares insult their favorite Youtuber.
Yeah I've started to notice this for Zero since I've been reading up on this just now. It's sickening seeing how different the reaction is. I don't watch Zero content at all rather the occasional clip someone would post or highlight in some Random compilation and his way of speaking and what he saids is what makes his fan base so toxic (he's been transphobic and racist jokes). He's has a awful way of speaking in the very few things I saw of him so I can't even imagine what he saids in his full video content.
This place isn't being horrible and conspiracy theory, but there's a really well done post on the smash Bros reddit that I wanted to share.
www.reddit.com
It goes in depth as to how the screenshots from the Katie allegation are legitimate, and debunks some of the "evidence of tampering/editing" that toxic Zero fans are trying to argue.
Reddit - Dive into anything
www.reddit.com
It goes in depth as to how the screenshots from the Katie allegation are legitimate, and debunks some of the "evidence of tampering/editing" that toxic Zero fans are trying to argue.
Am I crazy or does not a thing in Zeros statement disprove any of her allegation?
He provides evidence of text chains they have showing there was an amicable relationship but for the actual allegation he's provided no evidence other than simple denial and "I have no recollection.".
Also, not just in reference to Zero but all the people staying in that house; there's no fucking way you're roommate with that many people and not knowing when multiple members of them are raping a 15 year old. I'm sorry but no. Not a chance.
He provides evidence of text chains they have showing there was an amicable relationship but for the actual allegation he's provided no evidence other than simple denial and "I have no recollection.".
Also, not just in reference to Zero but all the people staying in that house; there's no fucking way you're roommate with that many people and not knowing when multiple members of them are raping a 15 year old. I'm sorry but no. Not a chance.