When's the last time Disney did a good book adaptation? Bridge to Terabithia? That was like 13 years ago?
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Artemis Fowl - Official Trailer
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I tried reading the first book many years ago (surely at least 15?) and the kid seemed like such an insufferable prick that I just couldn't go through it. Is the series supposed to be good?
Are the books good? I remember getting the first one way back then because it looked pretty, but never actually reading it.
Bombadis Fowl
It almost feels like a fake trailer, like a parody of generic, mediocre kids movies that all look and feel the same.
It almost feels like a fake trailer, like a parody of generic, mediocre kids movies that all look and feel the same.
As someone who loved the first few books and never got around to reading the last couple... can someone who read them all tell me if this was as batshit to read as it sounds?
Also wtf, is there really
a romance between Artemis and Holly? Wasn't she an adult in fairy years or am I misremembering?
On topic... damn that trailer is a disappointment, what is even happening? Why not the first book? And I hate to insult child actors but Artemis is so bland lol.
I enjoyed the first one when I was like 8 or 9. I haven't read the others.
Yea, I thought this plot seemed strange/different.
Artemis, while certainly the protagonist of series, was most certainly the "villain" in the first book.
And yes, I'm pretty sure Artemis x Holly was heavily implied if not outright explored in the books (can't remember super well, we're talking ~15 years ago)
Artemis, while certainly the protagonist of series, was most certainly the "villain" in the first book.
And yes, I'm pretty sure Artemis x Holly was heavily implied if not outright explored in the books (can't remember super well, we're talking ~15 years ago)
This is not only skipping the setup of the first book, but it's a really weird mish-mash of various elements in the sequels. I can recognise bits, but they're in ways that really shouldn't go together. The biggest lynchpin for me, I think, is gonna be whether or not the mind-wipe is in play. If it is, then they could at least have a version of the first book's events having played out as backstory, while getting straight to the save the world stuff as they so desire. If not, then they're likely going right past Artemis being a villain protagonist who has to develop over time
This film was never going to be great, but that was astoundingly bad. It seemingly ignores the entire plot of the first book.
So based on the trailer this has absolutely Jack shit to do with the actual story of the book.
Thanks disney, I hate it.
Thanks disney, I hate it.
Finding him is a major part of book 2, but needless to say, it's... not exactly in these circumstances
Looks like they rolled the dice on an unknown child actor and lost big. Kid's got the presence of a bobblehead and looks completely lost next to much more experienced actors.
Maybe now studios will actually stop trying to make the next Harry Potter series of films.
Maybe now studios will actually stop trying to make the next Harry Potter series of films.
Well yeah the kid is the villain, obviosuly he acts like one. The first few books are great.
If you knew what Mulch Diggums can do, your brain would do a backflip lol .
No. It's popularity rests on staring an asshole too-smart-for-his-own-good rich kid in the era of classic hero Harry Potter. Without that contrast, the book has nothing going for it.
Pretty much.
I read the first four books and they had something interesting going on. This is clearly not the way to adapt this shit, lmao.
Yes. And that he's sorta foul as he's intentionally portrayed as a douche
First 4 all tie well together and make for a good ending point. 5th one was unnecessery but ok enough to my teen self as far as I remember, the rest are trash.
In one of the previous books, I think 3rd from the last, there was some time shenanigans that made Holly younger for a spell. There was a bit of romantic tension between the two at that time, but Artemis being Artemis fucked it up. I forgot how, but he had lied to his friends about something to achieve their mission. She was turned back to normal by the end and basically told him he screwed his chance.
The kiss in the last book was platonic. He kissed her forehead.
The kiss in the last book was platonic. He kissed her forehead.
I know nothing about the books, but I bet my 11 year old son would enjoy this.
Looks about on par with The Kid Who Would Be King, and will probably do as well.
Looks about on par with The Kid Who Would Be King, and will probably do as well.
It's Disney, they're not going to make a ruthless criminal mastermind prodigy qyasi-psychopath an actual ruthless criminal mastermind prodigy quasi-psychopath, there are families watching. :P Though WHO KNOWS, maybe these trailers are intentionally deceptive. That would be hilarious, but also probably way too bold and non-characteristically uncouth of Disney to do.
Still, I really hope this doesn't turn out like so many other re-molded and watered down YA adaptations. Like Alex Rider. :p Sure, source material matters. But I think Artemis Fowl has the basis for something with genuine sustenance if approached correctly.
Artemis Fowl was always a little edgy, but the movie, or at least, its marketing at present, (which basically consists of two trailers -- the teaser that came out two years ago, and this one), definitely seems to want you to be believe that it offers a different kind of edge that favors action and streamlining over the original insular, YA hard boiled mystery mind game stew that was sometimes hit, sometimes miss, but fun. If this wants to be fun, it's certainly trying its hand at something a little more accessible to general audiences, while also maintaining a distinct visual design -- I just hope it works, and that ace screenwriter they got pulls the whole family sci-fi fantasy character-writing thing off.
One aspect that, again, was always a divisive and core part of the books was Fowl's heartless nature towards his 'enemies', but in the first book we are shown that his moral/emotional anchor, besides Butler, is his mother, and I don't know how this'll work in the movie, thematically, as this served as compelling (if thin) foil to his character and she isn't even shown in the trailer here, for better or for worse. Whatevs. I'll pro'lly still watch this BABEH, why not.
In it to win it!
Still, I really hope this doesn't turn out like so many other re-molded and watered down YA adaptations. Like Alex Rider. :p Sure, source material matters. But I think Artemis Fowl has the basis for something with genuine sustenance if approached correctly.
Artemis Fowl was always a little edgy, but the movie, or at least, its marketing at present, (which basically consists of two trailers -- the teaser that came out two years ago, and this one), definitely seems to want you to be believe that it offers a different kind of edge that favors action and streamlining over the original insular, YA hard boiled mystery mind game stew that was sometimes hit, sometimes miss, but fun. If this wants to be fun, it's certainly trying its hand at something a little more accessible to general audiences, while also maintaining a distinct visual design -- I just hope it works, and that ace screenwriter they got pulls the whole family sci-fi fantasy character-writing thing off.
One aspect that, again, was always a divisive and core part of the books was Fowl's heartless nature towards his 'enemies', but in the first book we are shown that his moral/emotional anchor, besides Butler, is his mother, and I don't know how this'll work in the movie, thematically, as this served as compelling (if thin) foil to his character and she isn't even shown in the trailer here, for better or for worse. Whatevs. I'll pro'lly still watch this BABEH, why not.
In it to win it!
This is at least 10 years too late and I still hate it
The writing was on the wall when the casting call for Artemis sad that he is "warm-hearted and has a great sense of humour; he has fun in whatever situation he is in and loves life".
The entire point of the books (besides the cool high-tech fairy world) is that Artemis is a cocky, assholish ten-year-old criminal mastermind at the start. The whole story is about how he slowly develops empathy.
Looks like they took all the edges of his character and blame all the bad stuff on his Dad
The writing was on the wall when the casting call for Artemis sad that he is "warm-hearted and has a great sense of humour; he has fun in whatever situation he is in and loves life".
The entire point of the books (besides the cool high-tech fairy world) is that Artemis is a cocky, assholish ten-year-old criminal mastermind at the start. The whole story is about how he slowly develops empathy.
Looks like they took all the edges of his character and blame all the bad stuff on his Dad
Ignore this person, the books are fantastic.
I don't remember this franchise much, but I read the books up until 5 and loved them as a kid. I remember very little about them, a decade later, but I sure as hell remember enough to know this ain't it haha.
Disappointed, but whatever. This is just too many years too late.
Disappointed, but whatever. This is just too many years too late.
I barely remember the books but even I can see that this is nowhere CLOSE to the plot and looks like hot garbage
To be fair it's only the first book where he's definitely the villain. After that he struggles between trying to redeem himself and relapsing to his assholish super-criminal ways, and that's what makes it interesting