MGM could block it. Nintendo could block it. MS could block. The matter is no less complicated now than it was then. If Nintendo maintains it is their game and they don't want it elsewhere, then nothing is going to change.
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Ars Technica: GoldenEye 007 Remaster Was Canceled by Nintendo With Only a Few Bugs Left to Fix
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Well we have MGM putting themselves up for sale too which could complicate it a bit too.
If there's parity then nintendo might be game, that was iwata's complaint.
he's not lying about the end of what he wrote.
Purchasing rare would have included the i.p. rights to Banjo, where nobody could tell Microsoft what they could or could not do with the i.p.
Nintendoput pressure in Activision (the current rights holder to bond videogames at the time) to nix the original Goldeneye remaster/port efforts, perhaps in part because they were doing their own golden eye branded game for wii
Interesting news, I wonder if it would be possible to revive the project?
It seems like Nintendo and Microsoft's relationship is more collaborative lately.
It seems like Nintendo and Microsoft's relationship is more collaborative lately.
Rare was allegedly going to port the game to the Wii, that was in addition to the VC back catalogue.
It is amusing that Microsoft actually do own a small piece of Donkey Kong. They have to be involved whenever the Country titles get re-released.
Oof, that's unfortunate. Maybe enough executive heads have changed since then that are more open to this kind of release, but I guess the safest bet is for anyone to not hold their breath and be pleasantly surprised if anything changes.
Probably because the Rare logo is all over the place. MS doesn't actually have any stake in DKC as an IP.
To be fair, IOI, being (technically) an independent developer with good relationships with both Microsoft and Nintendo, probably would be extremely open to all parties working together to get this figured out.
And it's not like games that were originally made by Rare and published by Nintendo haven't been seen on Xbox, Rare Replay included both Banjo games, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, and Blast Corps.
I don't mean the IP in general, just that small piece of its legacy.
Right, but we don't know if IOI has the same deal with the Bond IP that Activision had back in 2007. As far as we know the current license arrangement has 0 movie involvement.
Because they, allegedly, didn't need Nintendo's greenlight to release the game. It was Nintendo going to Activision that apparently killed the project.
They say it will never release.
They also say that they were 30 people working on Perfect Dark Zero (Single-player, Co-Op, Multiplayer) with 75% of the team being new.
Wait, if Iwata had to pressure Activision into killing the project, then doesn't that mean Nintendo has no rights to the game?
I always wondered why Microsoft seemingly got the rights to all* of Rare's games from Nintendo except for Goldeneye.
*obviously not dk stuff
I always wondered why Microsoft seemingly got the rights to all* of Rare's games from Nintendo except for Goldeneye.
*obviously not dk stuff
With all of the attention on this thing now, one of three things are going to happen:
- The closer to final build will get leaked
- A deal will be worked out to get an official release
- Both of the above
That's not the game in question. It was made by Activision. It's a psuedo remake, but not the original game.
The game is question is a remake of the N64 game that Microsoft and RARE were making for the 360.
Yeah there are more eyes on this now that a playable build is out there. On the plus side if none of these things happen, the game is out there and easy to run on PC.
To be fair, Nintendo never really owned most of Rare's games to begin with. It was just Banjo, Killer Instinct and Blast Corps that they co-owned. Stuff like PD, Jet Force and Conker were always fully owned by Rare.
I imagine that they gave up their shares in those IPs to Rare as goodwill, as well the cold harsh truth in that they weren't going to do anything with them anyways.
Goldeneye is a licensed game. A re-release of it isn't so straight-forward. Especially since Microsoft never had the license to begin with.
Porting wasn't a problem fittng iwata's ridiculous standards was.
Exclusivity is how/why the game was made. Nintendo got the Bond license and funded the original game...
Downside to that is that people will have to learn the file structure and figure out how to mod it to fix the remaining texture and graphical issues. If the three minuted before cancelled build leaks, then it's just bug fixes they'd have to worry about, if they worry about them at all.
Sounds a lot like 'it should be fine' writ large.
It probably didn't take that long anyway, and was some good training for some people.
This is honestly ridiculous. Nintendo might own part of the game, sure, but it's not Nintendo's IP. There is nothing to protect here. They should just agree to finish this up and release it on Xbox, PC and Switch with cross-play multiplayer.
Microsoft paid Nintendo a lot of money to secure IP like Perfect Dark. They didn't pay Nintendo anything for Goldeneye, so Nintendo still saw it as "their" game, even if it wasn't.
It made sense that Nintendo blocked it considering the gulf in power between the 360 and the Wii. They were going to get the inferior version no matter what. It sucks for anyone looking forward to it, but that's just how the industry rolls.
I have always been a huge Nintendo fan, but this pissed me off so much. I wanted this game more than anything when I first heard about it.
Probably someone in an Executive Producer role at Nintendo, like Tanabe or Miyamoto (at the time). They oversee multiple projects and put a lot of trust in their teams to make decisions in their absence (when their focus is elsewhere), but ultimately have final say on just about everything related to the projects/teams under them. It could be a team of Nintendo producers thought it was a great idea, then got shut down when they brought it to the EP.
(source: believe me or not, but I briefly worked at a studio collaborating with Nintendo and got to know how their teams operated to some extent)
(source: believe me or not, but I briefly worked at a studio collaborating with Nintendo and got to know how their teams operated to some extent)
He wanted a port on Wii that could share some graphical parity vs the decently upgraded 360 version.
You can google my name and a certain site that shall not be named and easily go look at the mood at the time it happened if the topics are still around. He also aludes to this in certain nintendo ask or interviews of the time, granted the sites actually still have them up.
even without this he was hugely against nintendo products elsewhere.
Yeah, in 1997, this was 10+ after the fact they didn't own the license, they shouldn't have a said, especially when work was already almost finished.
This Goldeneye remaster being released for Series X|S and Switch with crossplay is probably my #1 video game dream right now.
Would be amazing. I mean, the game is basically done, surely they can find someway to appease everyone and get this released.
The rights entanglement that is GoldenEye 007 really is unprecedented, but I still maintain that the odds for an official release of the XBLA version are better than ever. While we don't have any true insight into their relationship outside of the inclusion of Banjo and Steve in Smash, Nintendo and Microsoft *appear* to have a decent relationship. Plus, if you're MGM/Broccoli & Wilson (Bond rights holders), I think you'd be exploring any potential opportunities to offset the chunk of cash you're losing every month by sitting on No Time to Die.
Also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a copy (albeit password protected) of GoldenEye 007 XBLA found in the Nintendo Gigaleak stuff?
Also, please correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't a copy (albeit password protected) of GoldenEye 007 XBLA found in the Nintendo Gigaleak stuff?