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brochiller

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
2,191
I really enjoyed his message of hope for the future. It's something I think we all need to hear right now.

I would hope that the people who need to heed his warnings would hear them and take them to heart, but unfortunately I think it will fall on deaf ears if they even see this.
 

krazen

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,166
Gentrified Brooklyn
I fucks with this. Arnold's politics might be shaky her and there, but he called it 100% equating the Proud Boys with Nazi' and how 'regular people' are an important part of these movements of evil. Love how he equated it to the abuse he suffered.
 

Achtung

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,036
Message was good... not sure the second panning camera was needed though lol .. threw me off.
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
Member
Oct 26, 2017
60,217
Not surprised Arnold would be super fired up about this as a successful naturalized immigrant. He's big into the American mythos.

So is he still a republican or?

Yes, he's big into reform from within apparently.

He's also one of the few that actually believes in Climate change and is pro environment. He's basically a moderate Republican. Those were made irrelevant in national politics ages ago.

The RNC is also stacked with Trump sycophants.
 

anamika

Member
May 18, 2018
2,622
Good speech but a bit too idealistic. The rest of the world already knows the reality of American democracy and most of them seem to be gleefully mocking what happened with funny headlines in their newspapers rather than crying like Arnold describes here lol. I liked the bit with Conan's sword.
 

Euphoria

Member
Oct 25, 2017
9,550
Earth
I watched this earlier and loved the message he brought and how he brought world history and his own personal history into it.

Very good message and I hope many see it and some stop and think about what they are doing and supporting and what it can and will lead to.
 

ChippyTurtle

Banned
Oct 13, 2018
4,773
Every effort must be made to illustrate the Nazis as the thin treasonable people they are, and to force their rhetoric back in the shadows where it can't spread. Part of that is empowering voices of conservatives and the right who are opposed to them.

I'm very proud of people like Arnold Schwarzenegger who actually believe in America, her ideals, against his party and his ideology. He gave money to expand voting rights and ensure greater access to voting during the election, even as his party sought to suppress it.
 

Window

Member
Oct 27, 2017
8,284
"The more pounding and thrusting you do, the stronger it becomes."

Good message but that was produced like a movie scene.
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
Member
Oct 26, 2017
60,217
Honestly, he probably wouldn't make for a bad president.
There was talk about that when ages ago actually. But you'd need a Constitutional Amendment as he's not a naturally born citizen.

I like Arnold, and he has a good heart, but I want boring politicians now on lol.
 

PlanetSmasher

The Abominable Showman
Member
Oct 25, 2017
115,864
There was talk about that when ages ago actually. But you'd need a Constitutional Amendment as he's not a naturally born citizen.

Yup. And while modern Arnold is certainly a centrist that a lot of people could get behind (environmentally-conscious, supportive of LGBT rights, supportive of education), I don't know if amending the constitution to allow non-naturally-born candidates to run just for one guy would be a smart plan long-term.
 

CrunchyB

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,108
The Kristallnacht comparison was apt. Loosely organized Brownshirts terrorized Jewish people and their businesses and synagogues while the police was instructed to not interfere.
 

CDX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,476
So he's staying a Republican? At least I hope this speech inspires other Republicans and shows them they don't have to be beholden to the Republican Party or to Trump, and they can sometimes put the country first if they want to.
 

Bigwombat

Banned
Nov 30, 2018
3,416
Crom.

Great message and he busted out the conan sword. Now I'm going to have to watch an arnie movie in between football.
 

HStallion

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
62,262
Yup. And while modern Arnold is certainly a centrist that a lot of people could get behind (environmentally-conscious, supportive of LGBT rights, supportive of education), I don't know if amending the constitution to allow non-naturally-born candidates to run just for one guy would be a smart plan long-term.

He even came around on vegetarian eating.
 

Soupman Prime

The Fallen
Nov 8, 2017
8,575
Boston, MA
What an awesome message, when a guy who grew up seeing and hearing things at that young an age is comparing what happened Wednesday to the nazi regime and the atrocities then you know shit is just god awful. Definitely a day that won't be forgotten anytime soon.

I hope all those who participated get their dues.
 
I hate that he is so scared of the word socialism because of what he saw nationalsozialismus do.

I mean I get it but a deep undestanding and learning of what the words really mean is all its needed and for his unwilliness to lear I can never respect him again.
 

Nepenthe

When the music hits, you feel no pain.
Administrator
Oct 25, 2017
20,725
That was a beautiful message. The idealism we need right now.
 

Star-Lord

Member
Oct 25, 2017
6,805
Honestly, he probably wouldn't make for a bad president.
Simpsons did it.
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May 19, 2020
4,828
considering how much he isn't a republican on certain issues such as the environment it's weird he still affiliates with them. he could easily be an independent at this point.
 

Tatsu91

Banned
Apr 7, 2019
3,147
The Kristallnacht comparison was apt. Loosely organized Brownshirts terrorized Jewish people and their businesses and synagogues while the police was instructed to not interfere.
The best part of his speech was that he opened with this. so even if you did not bother to watch it all if you watched the first 30 seconds you got this. So everyone who even glances over the video will see it.
 

entremet

You wouldn't toast a NES cartridge
Member
Oct 26, 2017
60,217
considering how much he isn't a republican on certain issues such as the environment it's weird he still affiliates with them. he could easily be an independent at this point.
He's also solidly pro-choice.

The RNC basically margilinzed these folks. They only exist in Northeastern governorships in any real power.
 

Dekuman

Member
Oct 27, 2017
19,026
I think he's tenure as governor of california wasn't great IIRC, not sure he should be back into elected politics, but more power to him to holding the people of his own party accountable.
 

ChippyTurtle

Banned
Oct 13, 2018
4,773
Even the Republicans who say the election was lost, it's over, it's all begrudgingly or not even mentioned to stand behind Biden, to stand behind democracy.

So for Arnold to so place it in his message, that President Biden was elected with the blessing of the American people and the constitution of the United States and that defending democracy is to defend Biden's election and to oppose Biden's win is to oppose the American people and the constitution is sorely needed among Republicans right now.
 

captmcblack

Member
Oct 25, 2017
5,067
The music was cheesy, and I know the exceptionalism is a non-starter. I also know he was not a good governor, cheated on his wife, etc so not looking to rehabilitate him any more than society has.

...but the speech was still good and on point. The rest of his party should listen to him.
 

Deleted member 46493

User requested account closure
Banned
Aug 7, 2018
5,231
I know it's not fair because he's an actor of many decades but man, I wish our politicians could do speeches like these.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,081
Sadly since he was not born here he can never be one despite him being one of the best choices the republican party could ever hope to produce

There was this documentary about the future that I saw which suggested it could be changed. It was called Demo... Demo-something Something. I forgot. It predicted his rise to politics so it has to be true.
 

Chikor

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
14,239
Ehhhh, really not that sure about the Kristallnacht comparisons.
The Kristallnacht was a coordinated progrom organized by the Nazi party at the highest levels.
The Nazi state apparatus was heavily involved, 10s of thousands of Jews were arrested by the cops and sent to concentration camps.

I think saying stuff like "the Nazi equivalent of the Proud Boys" to describe the SA both elevated the proud boys to a level they don't deserve and downplay how monstrous the nazis were. I'm sure both things make the proud boys extremely happy.