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Arkham Knight Was Wrong for 2015. But It Feels So Right In 2020 (tag ya spoilers y'all)
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The issue I had with the game and the reason I dropped it was the lack of focus on the core gameplay from previous games. There's just not as many opportunities to do the stealth puzzle box segments which the previous games excelled at. It's either Batmobile or beat up thugs. Batmobile was fine but the issue is they made it a core gameplay element which gets tiring and not fun.
Mandatory batmobile use in environmental puzzles gets old really fast. The tank fighting and car chasing are really fun though.
And it controls really well. You gotta hand it to them there.
Amazing that i can play it at 1080p/>60 on ma peecey. Looks so damn good!
end note: Rocksteady spoiled us with asylum/city. I cant even begin to understand the pressure they've had to endure, making a third one.
And it controls really well. You gotta hand it to them there.
Amazing that i can play it at 1080p/>60 on ma peecey. Looks so damn good!
end note: Rocksteady spoiled us with asylum/city. I cant even begin to understand the pressure they've had to endure, making a third one.
My only issue with the Batmobile is that the combat doesn't get interesting until 60-70% through the game when they start throwing harder fights at you. Once you're taking on armies of tanks and having to bob and weave through a web of target lines while using specials at the right time, it can be pretty engaging. The GCPD standoff near the end was a highlight imo.
I like it, Batman feels the best to control, at least in terms of traversal, out of the Rocksteady trilogy (haven't played Origins). I just wish there were more stealth/indoor sections and fewer tank battles. I still haven't finished it, though. I got stuck during a certain tank boss battle, kept dying and decided just to uninstall the game.
I like the game enough but coming from Asylum and City I was really disappointed in their boss fights. The Ra's Al Ghoul fight is one of my all time favorite boss fights from City.
I played it on PS4 when it was released. I finished it and I think it was ok. I couldn't get 100% because it was borrowed. For reference, I got 100% on previous Arkham games and I love all things related with Batman.
Then I played it again when it was free on Epic Games Store. With all DLC. With no Denuvo. Now I had the time to look for every secret, for every detail. I was amazed. I learnt many Batmobile tricks. The Mr. Freeze part was cool. I finally found the bomb guys. I played all DLC. I think I enjoyed it a lot more. But.. I'm not sure, but the game received a little patch just before a could finish it and since then the game had a lot of hiccups, and I couldn't play it in English. It is good that the Latin American Spanish is well done, but I wanted to play all the game in English.
Then I played it again when it was free on Epic Games Store. With all DLC. With no Denuvo. Now I had the time to look for every secret, for every detail. I was amazed. I learnt many Batmobile tricks. The Mr. Freeze part was cool. I finally found the bomb guys. I played all DLC. I think I enjoyed it a lot more. But.. I'm not sure, but the game received a little patch just before a could finish it and since then the game had a lot of hiccups, and I couldn't play it in English. It is good that the Latin American Spanish is well done, but I wanted to play all the game in English.
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That's really neat! I didn't know they redubbed all the dialogue in different languages. That's really expensive!
It's the most okay game. They really need to stop with the riddler shit though and having that be a true ending requirement was awful.
I recently played through Knight and Origins back to back. Knight was so, so much better than Origins it was jarring. The predator encounters and combat were just miles better, it was crazy. Then the presentation as a whole.... it was so weird. Like Origins had all these off putting cuts to pre-rendered cutscenes. Then I play Knight, I jump off a building after a fight and land in a the Batmobile mid glide, drive to another island, launch out, flay around and land on a rooftop then enter a building and get a cutscene. All completely seamless, no loading no camera cuts at all. You can see who was the creator and who was the imitator for sure.
I really like Arkham Knight. Probably my second favorite after Asylum, which was such a nice surprise and well balanced all around. I just really liked the batmobile and the controls, never had an issue with it, and made moving around easier IMO than in City.
Since others are doing it, if I ranked the 4 Arkham games, it would be:
Asylum > Knight > City > Origins
I beat the main three games, but never got past the Deathstroke boss in Origins. May have to go back to it.
Since others are doing it, if I ranked the 4 Arkham games, it would be:
Asylum > Knight > City > Origins
I beat the main three games, but never got past the Deathstroke boss in Origins. May have to go back to it.
Do it. Deathstroke is the worst boss due to the repetition/simplistic mechanics. Story and gameplay past that is really good.
Yes. The "spoiler character" was great. And the part when he sings is fantastic. The lyrics are good too. Some familiar voices, like the voice from Egon Spengler (this was a direct hit on my childhood) or Beto Velez, the voice for Homer Simpson... He is the Penguin. And I thought Batman and "spoiler character" were the same voices from the animated series. (Sadly, not)
In general WB games has great Latin American spanish dubs. When I played Shadows of Mordor, I got excited at hearing Gollum. It was like I was hearing Andy Serkins in spanish. And Mortal Kombat X has the voice from Goku (Mario Castañeda) for Johnny Cage. It is hilarious.
I dont like Origins but come on dude. Origins was made for the 360/ps3 in mind, Knight is a ps4/x1 game.
I enjoyed it a great deal two years ago or so. It has high highs and low lows, but I thought it was good for the most part.
The way the game utilized batmobile was wack. Occasional combat and puzzle solving? Sure, but the way the game makes it such a core part of the gameplay can be a total slog. And yeah I seriously rolled my eyes when the riddler was making me race underground lol
still, its a good game. It has some really amazing moments.
still, its a good game. It has some really amazing moments.
I love Arkham Knight. It's the best superhero game for me and it became one of my favorite goat.
I liked the previous games but not enough to buy AK, I played it for free from EGS and I liked it do much I did everything besides the riddler trophies.
I bought it again on steam and I am replaying it right now
I love most things about it, graphics and art style, story, atmosphere, the batmobile and even the tank combat (with mouse controls).
It made me feel like a kid again.
I liked the previous games but not enough to buy AK, I played it for free from EGS and I liked it do much I did everything besides the riddler trophies.
I bought it again on steam and I am replaying it right now
I love most things about it, graphics and art style, story, atmosphere, the batmobile and even the tank combat (with mouse controls).
It made me feel like a kid again.
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Man, I might honestly switch languages! Depends on the subtitle options. I had no idea WB put in all that work. But I suppose with all their work in animation, they've got everybody's number.
I loved it. Great game that just overdid the Batmobile. I love it's inclusion in the game and just driving around but I didn't care for the missions around it. It's just so much fun being Batman in the actual city.
Also such a gorgeous looking game. Really wowed me at the time.
Also such a gorgeous looking game. Really wowed me at the time.
It's definitely the weakest of all Arkham titles.
To add to existing issues voiced with Arkham Knight, the lack of 'boss and mob' combat encounters like those in Arkham City during the main game was really disappointing. I think the only comparable fight is the Albert King sequence.
The more Ubisoft-style "checklist" side objectives, e.g. destroying an x. number of militia watchtowers to raise the total completion percentage, definitely sucked.
One of the biggest narrative missteps for me was the relative absence in Harley, Two-Face, and Penguin in visibly supporting Scarecrow's efforts to eliminate the Batman. Perhaps taking down all three in a set of main story arcs should have led to a conclusive showdown with Crane? The game relegates Penguin and Two-Face to inconsequential side missions. Then you've got the mess of weaving in the Arkham Knight's dance with both Batman and Scarecrow.
To add to existing issues voiced with Arkham Knight, the lack of 'boss and mob' combat encounters like those in Arkham City during the main game was really disappointing. I think the only comparable fight is the Albert King sequence.
The more Ubisoft-style "checklist" side objectives, e.g. destroying an x. number of militia watchtowers to raise the total completion percentage, definitely sucked.
One of the biggest narrative missteps for me was the relative absence in Harley, Two-Face, and Penguin in visibly supporting Scarecrow's efforts to eliminate the Batman. Perhaps taking down all three in a set of main story arcs should have led to a conclusive showdown with Crane? The game relegates Penguin and Two-Face to inconsequential side missions. Then you've got the mess of weaving in the Arkham Knight's dance with both Batman and Scarecrow.
I enjoyed Arkham Knight. It is better than Origins, but both City and Asylum are the king's. The batmobile stuff I had no problems with and to me anyways it was easy to control.
I meant as a whole, including what I said about the combat and predator stuff.
I played (and 100%ed) Knight late last year and absolutely loved it; I think it absolutely stands next to Asylum and City in terms of quality, and they're possibly my favorite trilogy in gaming (not a fan of Origins, personally). Also, I loved the Batmobile (though I do agree that choosing Slade to be a tank fight was strange - they could have just used a different villain).
I had some issues with the story, and Batman's increasingly brutal persona can feel... problematic... but overall I really enjoyed playing the game and thing it added a lot of new and interesting ideas to the formula.
I definitely think having distance from all of the launch controversy and getting the DLC included up front improved my perception of the game though - I can see why some people were angry initially. I hope it has a more positive legacy than when it initially released.
I had some issues with the story, and Batman's increasingly brutal persona can feel... problematic... but overall I really enjoyed playing the game and thing it added a lot of new and interesting ideas to the formula.
I definitely think having distance from all of the launch controversy and getting the DLC included up front improved my perception of the game though - I can see why some people were angry initially. I hope it has a more positive legacy than when it initially released.
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The Arkham series brings me a lot of joy. Owning 6 copies of Asylum (3x standard and 3x goty on ps3, 360 and pc), pc and 360 with City plus Origins and buying multiple versions of Arkham Knight (ps4 ltd edition console, pc statue edition, then buying the goty xb1 version... and getting the digital download version on ps4 some time later.).
I respected how good the graphics were at the time but felt it was more of a chore to play through. It wasn't until a few years later that I replayed the game and really enjoyed it.
Still think Asylum was the best in the series. I thought City was the worst storyline wise and bad mission structure. Origins was amazing despite the game breaking bugs.
I respected how good the graphics were at the time but felt it was more of a chore to play through. It wasn't until a few years later that I replayed the game and really enjoyed it.
Still think Asylum was the best in the series. I thought City was the worst storyline wise and bad mission structure. Origins was amazing despite the game breaking bugs.
It's funny reading all of this when I finally played it recently and my first thought was how well Joker was implemented! He's not at all back from the dead, because that would suck, but he's still a main antagonist thanks to the actual antagonist's toxin. Felt really appropriate.
I thought the Batmobile was fine, although maybe overused for the main campaign, and as a result boss fights sure were a letdown compared to previous games.
Loved the game, though! That was a perfect length for an open-world game, that's for sure!
I thought the Batmobile was fine, although maybe overused for the main campaign, and as a result boss fights sure were a letdown compared to previous games.
Loved the game, though! That was a perfect length for an open-world game, that's for sure!
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Honestly, it's the only way to play it today. Normal mode might as well be cinematic mode for all it's forgiving difficult
Asylum did some pretty cool stuff story wise.
Thought they made some really awesome decisions, especially during the later third of the game.
Thought they made some really awesome decisions, especially during the later third of the game.
The game was good but there was a couple of issues, the plot was really predictable so it was hard to be invested in it and the batmobile sections were trash, I know OP mentions it was not that bad but the most clear memory of that game for me was how horrible and frustrating the batmobile sections were.
I tried the game two days ago and it really runs great.
90fps (1440p) almost locked outside of powerslides with the batmobile but that is probably due to the nvidia smoke effects. It goes down to the low 60s for a few seconds but then goes straight up to 90.
9900k, 2080, ssd. My Odyysey G7 also works great with no tearing or stuttering. Looks and plays so smooth.
Will be interesting to see the PS5/XSX bc versions.
90fps (1440p) almost locked outside of powerslides with the batmobile but that is probably due to the nvidia smoke effects. It goes down to the low 60s for a few seconds but then goes straight up to 90.
9900k, 2080, ssd. My Odyysey G7 also works great with no tearing or stuttering. Looks and plays so smooth.
Will be interesting to see the PS5/XSX bc versions.
A pretty mediocre story, Batmobie only being fun in smaller portions and the infamous true ending locked behind Riddler's trophies make it the worst in the series, but it's still a great Batman game in almost all regards. Loved the considerate open world design.
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I think the really bad part is the final Batmobile mission that goes on for something absurd like 18-20 minutes of take fights. That particular mission is HORRIBLE. I personally would patch it because it's unfair for most players and too tedious for people who enjoy a challenge.
I suppose to put it another way, Grand Theft Auto San Andreas has a world of content but all some remember is "All you had to do was follow the damn train CJ!"
The batmobile is honestly pretty great! You drive up, blowing things up for three minutes. Good times. Nice mechanic cleanser. But there's a very brief, very specific section where they pushed it way too hard. It should have stayed the quirky goof is is for 90% of the game.
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I didn't realize how amazing those look until a took a peak back at the PS4 version.
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Oh damn, this is a great video, especially the combat sequence.
I would go so far to say that it impacts gameplay. The smokelines on the rockets is the only way I've been able to keep track of them.
Without the smoke, the batmobile's presentation feels muted and elegant. But with it, thing looks like holy terror emerging from the burnout.
