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Are you worried about layoffs or consequences of leaks?
- Thread starter Glio
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Someone breaks NDA then they deserve what's on the other end of that.
I don't care about "spoilers" for a marketing campaign
Edit: What's this about Netherrealm? You mean when Shang Tsung's VA accidentally talked about being in the game? I don't think they beat him up or anything.
Double edit: Just saw the thing about the Injustice 2 leak. I mean, any time something leaks I assume companies try to lock it down, it is what it is. Netherrealm as a whole seemed like a mess though.
I don't care about "spoilers" for a marketing campaign
Edit: What's this about Netherrealm? You mean when Shang Tsung's VA accidentally talked about being in the game? I don't think they beat him up or anything.
Double edit: Just saw the thing about the Injustice 2 leak. I mean, any time something leaks I assume companies try to lock it down, it is what it is. Netherrealm as a whole seemed like a mess though.
I totally get the NDA thing, that's what I meant, unless the OP is talking about the one that actually leaked the information, everyone else won't be affected.
A game's information being released a few days early affecting the company's stock pricing? Lol no.
I just hate leaks in general. I feel like no one wins. We get shitty info, we spoil cool reveals, people get in shit, and all chance of framing the narrative goes away. Maybe I'm just getting old.
I get it sucks for the devs and I feel for those who might lose their job or even just worry about that as I know how horrible that feeling is, but I'm not the person leaking stuff, so no I don't worry about it.
There's a distinct difference between leaking information to the press to reveal information on poor working conditions, harrassment, and the like, and leaking an E3 line-up.
One of those is absolutely necessary to bring light to terrible situations. The other is more or less just a race for notoriety, and anyone that leaks that sort of information out brings the risk of trouble for everyone that had access to that information while it was confidential.
One of those is absolutely necessary to bring light to terrible situations. The other is more or less just a race for notoriety, and anyone that leaks that sort of information out brings the risk of trouble for everyone that had access to that information while it was confidential.
The spectacle of the reveal is kind of the point! It's all in fun and there is plenty of time (forever, technically) to consider the meat of the game. Otherwise why bother with a trade show in 2019.
A leak is also effectively a reveal. For me as a consumer that is not involved in the games industry E3 is just a glorified catalogue of future games.
If these corporations have their "secrets" "leaked", they are trusting the wrong people, and it's all their fault. Not to mention these "specialized gaming media", or even people on social media, will do everything to get attention/traffic on this matter. That's all, imo.
I totally understand and respect that showing a new game for the first time is a very special moment for a developer. But the one who is leaking something so substantial don't care about that, frankly.
I totally understand and respect that showing a new game for the first time is a very special moment for a developer. But the one who is leaking something so substantial don't care about that, frankly.
If you are that sensitive to it can you not just avoid gaming sites for a couple of days?
u even sure these aren't deliberate?
marketing sneaks getting free press
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marketing sneaks getting free press
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Legit leaks are good. Fuck the marketing machine. Fuck hype. The industry is broken.
Game devs: unionize.
Game devs: unionize.
I shouldn't feel bad just because the game industry treats it's employee's like trash, that's on them to fix.
I don't mind so much. It's not like their work just disappears because it got leaked.
We'll still buy the hell out of it and enjoy it.
I'm not sure what layoffs have to do with leaks but obviously no one wants layoffs for these devs.
We'll still buy the hell out of it and enjoy it.
I'm not sure what layoffs have to do with leaks but obviously no one wants layoffs for these devs.
There have been more than a few attempts at trying to spin this "leaks are bad!" narrative on this forum in the past year and it's not sticking. Give it up.
It happens in film as well and that can ruin someones career.
Again, it seems to be coming from the MS side of things mostly. It's sad. A lot of work and effort goes into these reveals. They should start spreading fake leaks to throw people off and ruin the credibility of some these people leaking stuff.
There isn't, as that sorta violates ERA's own rules about thread names not being vague.
You kinda need to go away if you wanna remain surprised.
I believe Konami got PORTRAITofRUIN after her leaks, but she leaked shit for two years. I don't know what her relationship was to Konami, however.
Order of Ecclesia stuff is what got her. Surprisingly, not Super Smash Bros. Brawl stuff.
Most leaks are the result of external partners being careless.
You can't really spread fake stuff to your marketing partners.
It's people internally doing the leaking, because when it's a case of hacking or stolen info there's usually some indication of that.
The industry is far too secretive and that's the real root of the issue.
It shouldn't be. Like Jason said, this leads to an unhealthy culture where we put too much stock on the marketing side of things.
Imagine getting spoiled by glorified commercials. Ffs.
Gotta agree with Jason here.
I feel for the devs who put together whatever we're about to see only to have it leak. But I'm not mad that I know about a game two days before I'm supposed to. Literally for the reasons Jason reveals here.
I feel for the devs who put together whatever we're about to see only to have it leak. But I'm not mad that I know about a game two days before I'm supposed to. Literally for the reasons Jason reveals here.
And the reveals still happen. The trailers get shown on a big stage. Text-based leaks get fleshed out with concrete imagery and footage. If a whole trailer leaks, well, the work that went into it isn't wasted just because it didn't air at a certain arbitrary date and time.
If you're worried that companies are spending a bunch of money to have an E3 conference and their stage presentation loses some impact because of leaks, well, maybe it's time for those companies to reflect on whether live press conferences are worth the investment.
Yup. Leaks happen all the time. They happen every E3. The fact that you set a date a time for something like E3 means leaks are more probable. More and more people see this trailers and in the case of Bleeding Edge someone actively recorded it. Someone is always going to either say something or show something. Look at the last Sony State of Play. We knew or at least had a strong feeling FF7 would appear in it because a mod here hinted at it.
and yea if anyone is worried about the money these rich corporations are putting into this to have it leaked and feel it isn't worth it. Then they need to reevaluate the relevance of it all.
Where are all these leaks coming from?! Unrelated but a lot of rap has been leaking. A wild time for leaks right now.
No way, the hype is a huge part of the fun. Remember, from a consumer perspective, we're talking about toys essentially. Diversions. Fun, interesting diversions that help to waste time. To get caught up in worries about putting "too much stock on the marketing side of things" is only worth it for things like medications, things that affect lives. (keep in mind I'm talking about the consumer side of things, I know that there are real humans with families making these games.) If the spectacle isn't there then E3 is worthless to consumers. Let it be an industry-only even and companies can put the trailers out on their own time (like they already down during the rest of the year).
Loud, in your face, non-stop surprises and reveals, giveaways, same-day releases, that's what e3 needs to be.
The only person who is going to lose their jobs over leaks is the person who is doing the leaking. Leaks have never really led to a loss in sales. Hell, I would even argue that leaks usually end up generating more hype or make no difference at all because the vast majority of consumers aren't following forums like Era. Mario X Rabbids actually benefited from the leaks because it got people primed for the actual announcement and it was well received because people went from "Rabbids and Mario fuck that!" To "ok this game is way better than I expected."
I've been out the loops. Specifically, what bomba leaks are you referring too?
Any word on the Xbox elite controller ver. 2.0??
Any word on the Xbox elite controller ver. 2.0??
No it doesn't. A lot of mostly know before an Apple event before it's revealed. A few games getting leaked doesn't change anything. The big event still happens. The content still get shown and the masses will watch.
Hell most people don't even see the games until they individually watch the trailers on youtube anyway.
I just saw a Twitch employee advertising about a extension so people can preorder games while watching E3 alongside their streamers.....and I remembered why I don't care about leaks occurring. Anything that ruins the hype train that feeds the pre-order money giveaway, the better.
A big reason for showing the trailers in such a grand fashion is the hype of the reveal, the surprise. Otherwise, there is no reason to waste money on a conference, none.
And not the centrally placed, hyped timeperiod where the entire world descends on E3 to report all the announcements and news, no thats totally useless and not worth vs revealing randomly on some random date....
Then as I said. If they still feel this is a waste after it's been leaked. Then they need to rethink their approach to E3. Leaks are a real thing and can happen. Like I said. I do feel for the devs that put time and effort into showing us something special and revealing it on their terms. But I'm not going to lose sleep seeing something now that I would see two days from now.