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Are the Xbox Series X specs enough for 4K/60FPS on all games?
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There is no pattern for that. Games are different. You can't compare linear games with open worlds. Different engines will perform different.
So the answer is no. Only for 4k 9-12 tflops(since 12 is not official) is not enough. For 4k and 60 fps some games will be some will be not.
And after 2-3 years like always with consoles most of games will be sub 4k and 30 fps.
So the answer is no. Only for 4k 9-12 tflops(since 12 is not official) is not enough. For 4k and 60 fps some games will be some will be not.
And after 2-3 years like always with consoles most of games will be sub 4k and 30 fps.
Nope but people on this forum repeat this bs over and over again.
When will people understand this? Every machine can run stuff at 4K/60, it depends what the developers do with the resources. The switch could run games at 4K/60 but they would have to look like N64 games.
The only thing we can say about next gen is that the CPUs won't be a bottleneck as they were for PS4 and Xbox One. Chances are good for more 60 fps games.
The only thing we can say about next gen is that the CPUs won't be a bottleneck as they were for PS4 and Xbox One. Chances are good for more 60 fps games.
No, it will be the same as it is now. Some will target 60fps but then some will target 30fps and more detailed graphics.
Because people assume the Triple A baseline of graphics when talking about 4K60. There is no point of bringing this up again and again....
I don't think so, developers will push for better looking graphics. Even the most high end card on the market today won't run all games at 4K/60, that is even if you play with the GFX settings.
It will be a decision taken at the dev's discretion, just like this gen.
It will be a decision taken at the dev's discretion, just like this gen.
If they reach for low/medium settings they'll probably be able to achieve that more often than not. But very high/ultra settings absolutely not. People get really hung up on resolution not fully understanding what it does. I'll take 1440p/ultra over 4k/low-medium-high any day.
Yes it does, lol. If that's the target, you can do it.
How do people still not understand how this works?
If a game is developed to run at 4k/60..and they specifically make it for that..then it WILL run at that if they optimized and finished it to do that. This isn't that hard to understand.
Even the Xbox One X has 4k/60 games....because they fall within a design that works at that on that hardware. I have at least 30+ games on the system that run at 4k/60.
You can't develop any game with this parameter on Jaguar (Ubisoft openworld games say hello)
There are no magic specs to hit any specific performance for every game. It depends entirely on the scope and demands of the individual game. You could totally make a 4k/60fps game on base current gen consoles if you limited the scope to hit those numbers. You could make a balls-to-the-wall crazy game that can only run at 720p/30fps on the Series X. It's entirely dependent on the game.
I do think it was interesting that the Godfall trailer was 60fps and the Hellblade trailer was 30fps.
Obviously Hellblade blew Godfall out of the water graphically, but as a "first PS5" trailer, I appreciated the 60fps and makes me wonder if Sony is asking devs to focus on 60 vs graphics, but who knows and it's ultimately up to the devs.
Obviously Hellblade blew Godfall out of the water graphically, but as a "first PS5" trailer, I appreciated the 60fps and makes me wonder if Sony is asking devs to focus on 60 vs graphics, but who knows and it's ultimately up to the devs.
I guess the interesting question would be, next gen, what kind of graphics will be possible at 4k/60fps and will it be impressive enough so devs can comfortably target that while the game not looking like a current gen remaster. Each generation bringing more beauty (let's say), it's more possible to not max out the console graphic ressources while maintaining a great graphic level.
It's always going to be up to the developer, no matter how powerful series x is. It's a balancing act between graphics and performance that each developer decides is the best for them.
Forza Motorsport 7 and I'm sure some of the sports games.
...except it wouldn't even be close because the system would still be outputting at much higher resolutions and still have much more graphical fidelity through higher quality textures, more geometry on screen at a time...
Current gen games? Absolutely. There's a lot of great looking games already at 4K, some even at 60 with dynamic resolution that are bottlenecked by the CPU of the machine. However, next gen will probably depend on devs and their priorities, so I have no clue.
30fps needs to die. Hope my boy Lockhart will be the "underpowered" baseline - Might result in more 60fps games eh..
If Godfall is a multiplayer looter then I can see why they targeted 60fps there. I can't see anyway in hell devs like Insomniac or Guerilla Games push 60fps over visuals for the new Horizon and Spiderman games. I think Sony and devs will always want visuals over framerate in narrative driven games. Same thing with Ninja Theory and Hellblade.
Those games are not developed with 60fps on a Jaguar as a parameter in the first place. If they wanted to do an open world 60fps game on 1X they could. It's obviously not going to look like Odyssey but that was never the dude's point.
Yup, devs COULD hit 60fps with all games even this gen(but they have to scale assets, resolution ect ect ect to hit that). Its just a case of what is their priority.
Obviously the prio for devs is 4k(or at least staying as close as possible to 4k) for next gen, so just like every other gen we will probably see 30fps most of the time bc eyecandy sells so to speak.
I think 1440p at 120fps is basically not happening (for consoles at least) i could be wrong tho.
luckily we will know for sure in a couple of months : )
Yes. No excuses for developers not to be targeting that with those specs. Provide a mode for people who don't play games and just take screenshots who think framerate doesn't matter but your target sure as hell be 4k/60. Phils wording heavily eluded to this too.
I honestly would be OK with 1080p/30FPS with tons of bells and whistles
So far the wide-spread belief has been that higher Frame Rate does not sell more copies. It doesn't make for better looking promotional footage in most cases and though the buzzword has some weight, it doesn't seem to hold a candle to the higher visual fidelity that can be achieved with better graphics and dynamic scallers in real-time. I highly doubt that will change.
How many times do we have to repeat this. Developers choose to not have 60FPS. They prefer better visuals/fidelity/effects 9x out of 10. Every time you bump the power, they will increase those things again before worrying about 60fps
What current games cannot hit 4K 60 on a 12 tflops PC right now?
Halo, Gears of War, Battlefield, Uncharted, Star Wars Battlefront. All games that either hit 60fps this generation on consoles, and have development teams that have expressed an interest in doing so going forward. I know the line about developers choosing visuals over frame rate has been a winning one for the most part, but the trend is shifting, and with these very balanced next gen machines I think we're going to see a lot more developers choose 60fps.
Part of this is also because making games prettier and prettier means spending a lot more money. Budgets can't just keep going up and up. At some point making the game run smoother and play better becomes appealing.
